Transcripts For ALJAZ The Father The Son And The Jihad Ep 1 20240714

Move people out of the area after a standoff with palestinians at one side of the gates to the site the trouble began when rightwing jewish groups demanded that since to the compound separately on the gaza border a palestinian was shot and killed by Israeli Soldiers the said such incident in recent days. Of course in south africa has temporarily suspended plans to investigate president so around the poses for corruption the president has been accused of deliberately Misleading Parliament over a 50000. 00 donation to his Leadership Campaign which he denies more now from our correspondent in pretoria for me jim in us. President has managed to get a in interdict to stop the remedial action that was recommended by the Public Protector against him and thats linked to her reports that she said he had deliberately misled parliament when answering questions around donations to his campaign when he was running for president of the African National congress on the Public Protector and said that the president as should be referred to the Ethics Committee within parliament he that he had violated the executive ethics code and also she believes that there was enough evidence to indicate that there were this potentially Money Laundering involved in the movement of these Campaign Funds now this is something the president has denied he sought this interdict to prevent the remedial action from being implemented but is also wanting that report to be reviewed by the court he says the courts will decide whether or not the sir report should stand now the Public Protector has had difficulties in the past in some of the other reports where the Constitutional Court has also said that shes acted a conducted in in an improper conducted herself in an improper manner and is in fact also lied under oath no the spat between the Public Protector and him up or so is one thats dominated the public debate a here in south africa there are a lot of questions being raised around what question still remark was a has to on so with regard to Campaign Donations which all parties and political leaders we receive but also the agenda behind the Public Protector there are media reports in observers who who say that the Public Protector has a political agenda and that some of these reports that shes issued are unfounded and this has a great a deal has more to do with the issues within the African National congress in that its a split party and there are perhaps people behind the scenes who potentially want the. The president out but essentially hes been able to get that interdict and now those remedial action is on hold until that report is reviewed by the courts. Still to come here at our 4th time lucky Guatemala Center right candidate claims victory after 3 previous failed attempts for the presidency. Stephanie tack and threw back down to the hotel by. March. Last school cost 25. 00. Hello there. Southern and eastern portions of china we have seen some careless skies really across around into shanghai the remnants of Tropical Storm came out of the picture from this particular part of china however as we go through tuesday it is fairly unsettled a with a lot of rain stretching all the way from hong kong across through taiwan and also down still in toulouse on in the northern philippines by wednesday we see a little bit less rain still very unsettled but that should give a break between that more persistent rain and you can see a nice warm up to shanghai 34 celsius and clear skies but the rains of sunday havea out towards across the west and she will central Western Areas of china then we head across to india now of course we have seen nothing but flooding rains here for the last a few weeks and it is now the turn of carolus state to see the worst of some of this flooding and this is the situation these aeroshell give me a really good idea is just what the impact has been across the state over 160000 people have had to be moved out of their homes and this landslide was responsible for the deaths of at least 50 people so it really is a very unpleasant situation weve got more rain in the forecast certainly through tuesday and then actually by the time we head to the middle of the weight those rains becoming rather more extensive all the way from again right way down towards kara and pushing up to nepal and up into the northeast as well. Talk to aljazeera we ask what guarantees will you give to the people will be attending the minimal workshop we listen im supposed to explain apologize for someone its also terrorizing me we meet with global newsmakers and talk about the stories that matter on the phone to 0005 this is the opportunity to understand the very different way where there are people in markets and we dont live up. To take over the top stories here it out as their lies even hong kong airport have been canceled after more than 5000. 00 protesters flooded into the arrivals hall over 100. 00 flights have been affected irans foreign minister says u. S. Military buildup in the gulf could threaten the entire region in an exclusive interview with aljazeera zarif warned that more International Vessels in the area will lead to more insecurity. Thousands of kashmir is of rally to ensure a nigga a week after india india and next parts of the disputed territory they marched off the prayers for the muslim holiday of 8. Got amala conservative candidate early 100 jamma today will be the next president Election Officials declared him the winner after early results showed him with a commanding lead over the center left contender and the former 1st lady sounder taught is john home and has more. What tamal is new president elect a 100 gym a day on his 4th attempt the man they called the eternal candidate has finally won we dont think im very happy happy and satisfied with the results with the confidence of the guatemalan people. But who is gemma today a conservative planes to resolve poll say a guatemalans top 2 concerns the 1st security. Theres a lot of crime and youre free to go out because there are many thieves giamatti plans to get tough bringing back the Death Penalty and restricting rights to gang members in jail. And the 2nd a lack of jobs that leads to Guatemala City more people to the u. S. Border than any of the country is probably why it is that on the way the problem is that since theres no work in guatemala many people migrate and sometimes its sad what happens to those who die or get killed while searching for a new future to help their family. Promise to stop creating jobs by increasing tourism and Foreign Investment to build what he calls an economic wall its going to be tough inequality is deeply ingrained in a country thats the biggest economy in Central America but in which more than half the population live in poverty as we all confirm it added to all this is an unexpected challenge to do just signed by the outgoing president with the u. S. It says that migrants crossing the country mainly from honduras and el salvador have to ask for asylum in guatemala rather than continue to the states if its ratified it could mean tens of thousands of new arrivals mr jim doesnt want. But he may have to take us a threatening tariffs of not. One other thing he doesnt want the un backed Anti Corruption commission which he graphed in the business and political elite hard hes shown no interest in renewing its mandate thats made him far from universally popular in a country struggling with impunity starting from january when he takes office is 4 years to win over the dieties gone home and. Argentinas currency has plunged against the dollar after president Mauricio Macri suffered a major setback in his attempt to win reelection the press so lost 14 percent of its value as markets opened on monday is democracys governing party polled 15 percent less than the opposition candidate Alberto Fernandez he secured more than 47 percent of the vote. The v. More evacuations on the Spanish Island of ground canaria wildfire threaten several towns the authorities have declared the fire contained on sunday but high winds cools it to flare up again overnight more than 200. 00 firefighters are battling the blaze as it spreads towards a National Park Police Believe it was started by someone using Welding Equipment and ever arrested one man. South korea says it plans to drop japan from its preferential trade list as a rift between the 2 countries deepens theyve been protests in seoul after tokyo removed it from its own list escalating a trade feud the moves being seen as retaliation for a south Korean Court Ruling that ordered japanese firms to pay for forced labor during the 2nd world war. As one of the worlds most endangered species but the mountain gorillas of Central Africa are making a slow and fragile return from the brink of extinction aljazeera 70 deca reports now from the village on the mountains in rwanda the center of the conservation efforts. What you did and were at the foot of the very good mountains and getting a briefing on how to behave around the mountain gorilla thats what everyone here has come to see and theyve paid 1500 dollars each to spend one hour with the great apes in their habitat you excited i am beyond excited this is International Treasure that is being protected in rwanda and im so lucky to be able to experience it i cant wait and the cost is they put the concept where you think about it i think i think thats fair it limits access certainly to people who can afford it but i think by talking about what the guerrillas are providing for the communities that makes a lot of sense. This hike is not for the faint of heart its beautiful but challenging terrain we trekked uphill for over an hour. Our guide augustan shows us how gorillas get their water. And keep the energy high and then. Right in front of us a family babies mothers and the impressive great big family man the silverback the young ones are curious we have to move back not to get too close others seem almost bored by our presence. Then a display of power that. We walk around to get another view its incredibly close. To his critics and their bad acts just really watching us watch these great apes face extinction just a couple of decades ago their surprise could use the top price increase. Before we know it the hour is up and its time to track back down so. Let us. See. What. Pace. Rwandas tourism policy were told is one of low volume high value visitor numbers are restricted and the prices high translates to 25. 00 per minute for the hours spent with the gorillas tourist actually who come to see the girl as i understand why weve done that understand that its all about conservation for discussions and you can even see it in the in the in the last recent sessions that we did our strategy has actually proven to be done right away to do this weve seen a 26 percent increase in the number of individual coolness so its working both on the conservation side and on the tourism side its a fragile Success Story critically endangered for years and now their status has been adjusted to endangered the latest census shows or just over a 1000 gorillas spanning rwanda uganda and the democratic republic of congo of from just around 200. 00 a few decades ago but that still doesnt seem a large number when you think that its the whole worlds entire population of these incredible animals Stephanie Decker aljazeera individual the mountains of rwanda. Right lets talk now whos Senior Program manager for western Central Africa and foreigner and Flora International shes joining us via skype from cambridge in the u. K. Thanks for talking to us would you say then that this positive news is a result of thought for care for management and quite strict enforcement by the rwandans. Yeah its an incredible Success Story and a result of an enormous conservation and efforts whether that ranges from you know intensive Law Enforcement to trans bangi collaboration to the fact that there are bets on diet after those brands as well. But this does apply only to this Central African mountain gorilla im just wondering about how other species other types of gorillas are faring in other parts of africa particularly say to further to the west in cameroon equitorial guinea that sort of area. Where western lohengrin probably the largest population approximately 350000 of them they have very similar prefer threats from poaching a happy fat lot disease. But there are some intensive also conservation efforts but those are lives as well and they have a much higher chance with those large numbers saying that right next door to mountain gorillas a growl used to be good eastern lowland gorillas in the r. C. Which are not bearing very well at all and there are of their population is in the midst of an outbreak of human bone or outbreak so there are great risks and we have to continue conservation efforts right i guess it goes without saying that really for for gorillas to be able to thrive or at least to to stay away from the very Dangerous Levels of near extinction they need peace and they need protection. Exactly. As i said it it requires a multiple effort across the board in gauging local communities making sure they benefit from conservation in transplanting a areas making sure you have a better lab or a show. And where you can for instance from mountain gorillas they do benefit from a you know a number of a bit rate equal as they can be monitored you cant do that for western lowland gorillas but you can put in sort of dedicated Law Enforcement activities right and is it a consequence i mean the rwanda side of things that were correspondent is it has been monitoring forest is that a consequence of the rwanda is also realizing the actual value of these rare and special creatures and therefore charging its a small fortune really to spend an hour looking at these creatures not something short of 22000. 00 for an hour. Yet yeah its obviously the mountain gorillas are very specific its a small population in a very fragile habitat. With a lot of demand to see them. So you do sort of have to get mats and returns within those parameters and all this money does go back into the conservation of the parks and also of course benefits local and National Economies and its something that weve tried also to do for western lowland gorillas although it hasnt been you know quite a Success Story in Central Africa republic for instance i mean gabble on in cameroon they are starting torres and mark west alone and well as based on the battle with mountain gorillas and really todd thank you very much very informative to talk to you thanks so much. Let me. Turn to say look at the top stories here it out as they are all flights leaving home Kong International airport are being canceled after thousands of antigovernment protests is flooded into the arrivals hall more than 100. 00 flights have been affected but the Authorities Say flights which had already checked in and flights that are currently on their way and not affected government pride has more from the airport. People here are carrying various banners and posters calling Police Brutality calling the Police Murderers and so on it is true that police did seem to adopt far tougher tactics in clearing away sundays demonstrations by possibly it was a way of trying to maybe scare people into not coming out not taking part in illegal activities if that was the case then maybe they have to think again irans foreign minister has accused the u. S. Of leading a military buildup in the gulf that could stretch the region in an exclusive interview without a reset more International Vessels in the area would only lead to more insecurity this is a tiny body of water and the more Foreign Naval vessels you have in this body of water the less secure it is for everybody. Based on experience president s of the United States and poland they will play in the persian gulf has never produced security if talking about threats coming from countries in the region the threat is coming from the United States and its western allies who are pouring their plans into this region making it a tinderbox ready to blow up. Thousands of kashmir is a reality in srinagar a week after india parts of the disputed territory they marched off to prayers for the muslim holiday of aid the area remains under an unprecedented lockdown with hundreds of thousands of soldiers on the streets but the local government says some measures have been eased up today those are the latest headlines coming up next its talk to aljazeera. On counting the cost a new world currency to challenge the dollar facebooks global dominance faces challenges. Currency wars china lets the one depreciate as trump wraps up the trade war and the economic and environmental costs of sand extract counting the costs on aljazeera youre going to see. The turmoil of post soviet russia in the ninetys saw a handful of Business People grow rich. While the country itself group poor. And the world stage a once proud nation was humiliated. Into the mix of chaotic capitalism and wild west opportunity step 2 Young Stanford business graduate ready to make his fortune. Bill browder built the largest Foreign Investment fund in russia revelling in deals that saw his investments increased 10 fold overnight emboldened by his own success browder began to speak out about a culture of corporate corruption. Suden fording file of russias new president Vladimir Putin. In 2005 browder was expelled from the country and declared a threat to National Security his head of intelligence vestment fund was raided and he says a complex fraud conducted by russian officials resulted in the theft of some 230000000. 00 it was a scheme uncovered by broders lawyer make neat ski whose later death in prison apparently the result of torture gave brown to a thirst for revenge and justice purpose the putins regime has been to commit terrible crimes in 2012 the United States Congress Passed the magnitsky act aimed at freezing the assets of those suspected of financial crimes and human rights abuses and magnitsky style provisions are being adopted by the European Union so russia is a country where a 1000 individuals have stolen all the money bill browder multimillionaire investor turned anti putin activist talks to aljazeera. Bill bratton thank you for talking to aljazeera youve been on record describing yourself as flooded near putins public enemy number one is that something that scares you or do you wear it as a badge of honor well i would say both i mean of course when Vladimir Putin wants to go after you hes got resources and hes not constrained in ways that others arent so i live a very precarious life which may end very suddenly and tragically however the reason that im in this position is that. Vladimir putin and his regime killed my lawyer Sergei Magnitsky from covering a massive putin connected corruption scheme and they killed him in a in a horribly sadistic way at the age of 37 and ive been going after them. Ever since they killed him and weve created a law in the name of Sergei Magnitsky in the United States in the u. K. In canada in the stony a latvia lithuania and many other countries and theres a lot putin hate so much and thats the reason why he hates me and the fact that this law is causing him so much grief is something which which shows that weve got him back and thats what you with with pride youve been convicted in russia in absentia 2 counts accused of tax fraud arrested very publicly in madrid last year accused among other things of killing mr magnitsky yourself. And then we come to this meeting in helsinki between trump donald trump the u. S. President and mr putin last year when putin said well give you the 12 indicted military Intelligence Officers indicted by special Counsel Robert Mueller but what we want in return is you bill browder how did that make you feel well again i was i was actually in america at the time and it and Donald Trumps reaction to that was i think its a brilliant idea so i of course i couldnt feel anything other than. A little uncomfortable but 2 things that made me feel 1st was that in America Donald trump doesnt have his own personal rendition squad this thats to go through the department of justice in the courts and the United States the rule of law wouldnt have handed me over to the russians whatever Donald Trumps reaction was but again the fact that im living rent free in putins head shows just how how effective the magnitsky act has been that i would be the one thing he brings up at the summit and so from my perspective it only emboldened me to carry on and to push harder to get other countries do magnitsky and it was an extraordinary example was it of the state of modern politics and geopolitics his Vladimir Putin russian president all hes done in the last few years in ukraine and over the decried by obama and the Obama Administration donald trump willing to embrace them and willing to trade you. For secrets extraordinary well it was extraordinary what he was willing to do but it was also very comforting to see how the system rallied around to protect me and and the next day he didnt walk back his his agreement to this thing the next day after that he didnt. But then the senate of the u. S. Senate then had a vote what would it be a good thing or a bad thing to hand me over and along with i should point out 11 others and and they voted 98 to 0 not to hand me over which shows that that whatever donald trump is thinking thats not a consensus opinion among his people or in america generally involved at the moment exclusively understand in following the money trail what happened to the missing millions from your fund in russia. In the process of that you know many people wonder what the basis of this relationship and trump and putin it is about money is it about favors have you in your following the trail discovered any secrets there well everybody asked me that because so for 9 years weve been looking to who got the 230000000. 00 of tax money that we paid that surrogate magnitsky discovered was stolen and went back to various corrupt officials weve weve traced out for 9 years and we found all the money through Law Enforcement investigations the private investigations the whistleblowers and so far there has not been any money that went to donald trump having said that theres a lot of money that went of lattimer putin ok will leaving the money to one side i mean you theater in the inquiry in another respect in that in a secret meeting that took place in trump tower in mid 2016 Campaign Time between Trump Officials and a senior russian lawyer. The key subject matter was you indeed mr miller contacted you about that well i cant really talk about what mr miller has contacted me about or not but what i can. C. Is that in on june 9th 2016 natalia vessel its guy on a russian lawyer the lawyer involved in that meeting the lawyer involved that meeting who went to trump tower along with a couple of other russians and sat down with Donald Trump Jr jerde coo sure and paul man of fort and this is this is now before donald trump just after he was nominated before he was elected president and they said. If your father talking to Donald Trump Jr donald trump is elected president can you repeal the magnitsky act and could you indict bill browder and. She wasnt there just as a private citizen she was there effectively on behalf of lattimer putin in the russian government and its remarkable from him from almost every different standpoint that that the russian government would send an emissary to talk about me in the magnitsky act is remarkable that Donald Trump Jr. His son his son in law and his Campaign Manager would meet with this russian to talk so is it possible do you think in the end that if collusion is proven that it may turn out that bill browder in the Magnitsky Magnitsky act with powerful motivators well we know for sure that the russians were there because of the me and the magnitsky act and we know for sure that they supported donald trump because they thought he would be more favorable about these issues than Hillary Clinton and we know for sure that they were willing to do things in order to make that happen what we dont know is whether the donald with whether donald trump personally agreed to that and colluded all we know is what the russians intention was we dont know what Donald Trumps response was going back to the money trail. The basis of the act of course passed by barack obama or under the administration of 2012 how successful in practical terms has it be in the last 6 years in terms of strangling the funds of the oligarchs in terms of cooling human rights abuses to account well so extremely successful its been a dramatic and sort of tectonic success and what why has it been so successful because because of the nature of russia so russia is a country where a 1000 individuals have stolen all the money from the country literally a 1000. 00 individuals have stolen a trillion dollars over a 20 year period so youve stolen all this money and so that the other 145000000 russians are in destitute poverty theres a 1000 individuals and so. Historically when you do sanctions you sanction a country and its all very blunt in the average person it starves them and the elite they fly in their champagne and caviar in private jets but instead where the magnitsky act does and the successor sanctions rules have done which have all been copies of the magnitsky act is go after those 1000 people and theres no if theyre ready to kill for money theres nothing more painful for them to have their money frozen and its and even if you havent frozen their money just the the idea that their money could be frozen it is like a sort of sword of damocles hanging over their head and and and thats why putin is hates the magnitsky act so much is because hes a kleptocrat 1st and foremost i believe hes worth 200000000000. 00 i believe that he keeps that money in the name of other people offshore and and if that money is put at risk of being frozen and some of it has been frozen that touches him. More than anything else that more than anything else the actors also had its powers expanded its not just focused on russia. Used recently against 17 saudis believed responsible for the death of Jamal Khashoggi was that a victory for you to find that the act was now being broadened so that after the magnitsky act was passed in 2012 budget senator john mccain and senator ben cardin they looked at putins reaction which was hysteria here that he literally lost his cool and they said were on to Something Big here. And theres no reason why a chinese will in saudi villain or a venezuelan villain should be able to get a better deal than the russian villains and so they they created the global magnitsky act which passed unanimously in 2016 which goes after bad guys everywhere and and the United States government has been rolling it out. Quietly and steadily across all different parts of the world and when Jamal Khashoggi was was brutally murdered i saw this and i thought this is like the textbook case for the magnitsky act he was a truth teller he was exposing corruption in his regime in the regime that he came for in the saudi regime and then they lured him to the saudi consulate in istanbul and extrajudicial he murdered him in the most gruesome reflect way if there was no this was this was the textbook case for them and for the global magnitsky act and then they used it they used it on 17 saudis and they didnt use it on mohamed bin solomon and i and i along with many members of congress think that thats thats really bad and expanded as well in recent months into the European Union what what what do you foresee for its its use in the e. U. Can you see it for instance begin to influence what appears to be the fairly insidious and creeping russian influence in European Political Affairs im thinking of russian money allegedly used to prop up the. Populist government in italy also suggestions of russian money being involved in breaks it. Tell me about the european angle well so your key United States is the most powerful country in the world but if you get the United States doing saying sions and europe not then then these guys are all going to the south of france and buying villas on the hotel in front of the hotel du koppen in marbella in sardinia and so the so europe has to has to conform with the rest of the world in order for this to be an effective policy and europe up until now hasnt now in december we had a breakthrough in europe where they were finally after 9 years of my campaigning they finally agreed. In principle to do it but it in principle and having a law theres a lot of dots to connect and the devil is in the details and the one thing i can say is that europe is where the russians are most active they find lots of corrupt politicians and officials in the United Kingdom in italy and in spain everywhere and they corrupt them and so europe is a very hard place to get this legislation passed theyre fighting like hell behind the scenes right now to try to stop it and theyve got countries like hungry in italy who are sort of at the moment sort of expressing objections. And even if it does get past getting 28 countries to agree on who to sanction is a very hard thing to do but it is the big prize if we get europe then we got them where theyre where it really hits them which is the bill was the all that kind of stuff let me ask you about surrogate magnitsky now he was your lawyer in russia. As you explained he died in. Prison in 2009. And all of these global. Acts of legislation are in his name do you feel responsible for his death well i feel extremely responsible for his death he wouldnt be dead he wouldnt have died he wouldve suffered some horrific torture if he hadnt been my lawyer they effectively tortured him and killed him as my proxy and and so he was a young truly amazing great man with 2 children great great life ahead of him and he was cut short in the most horrific way at the age of 37. 00 and for me every day i feel terrible about that and and thats that is that feeling of guilt and that feeling of responsibility and that feeling of anger that drives me for nearly a decade to devote my entire life to getting justice for him well youve talked about revenge who at what point do you imagine you might feel a vengeful but its not about revenge as it is about justice but you know just revenge revenge is something he has were told its part of justice thats what justice is you dont let people get away with with murder its going well beyond sort of a maybe its you know other many other victims come to me with their issues and their problems in thats its become his legacy to to try to try to create a tool. A tool of fighting impunity in his name and so its not just about justice or revenge or any of those things its also about his legacy youve talked about the 1000. 00 gawks you talked about the trillions of the stole taking you back to your time at the beginning in russia as the soviet union fell you also made a fortune in a fund that was investing in the privatizations of the day taking advantage of century of the collapse of the soviet system isnt that exactly what they did definitely not what they did so 1st of all what i did was i when when they pride. Ties the country had a stock market and i invested in the stock market and i vested in Big Companies in the stock market and what i did which is totally different than what they did was that the oligarchy and these corrupt officials were stealing from gas prom the biggest state company lukoil etc and i came up with an Investment Strategy which was to help to try to stop the stealing and to expose these guys as i was doing just the opposite which is they were stealing from the state from the people from their companies and i was researching how they were doing the stealing and then exposing the research the International Media to get them to stop it which is how they which is why the regime turned on me and went after me in such a vicious and horrible way but isnt there a gap in timing here initially you made your money and then you. Turned to criticizing know the regime initially you made your money in much the same way they did by taking advantage of a collapsing system well they only similarity is that we were both investing in the system at the very same time the difference was that almost immediately after i started i started exposing corruption which is which is i think that anybody who knew me in russia at the time said thats what russia needs thats a very brave thing to do and its a good thing for russia nobody said its a bad thing to to to invest in companies and i was doing it for money i wasnt doing it for the goodness of the state but to invest in companies expose corruption and try to stop it that definition only is is a good thing well given what was going on at that time then it could have come as much of a surprise to you when the rug was pulled out from under your feet because it did happen to Mikhail Khodorkovsky and other all the guards hes now a friend in our viewers here in london he stuck his nose into opposition politics he criticized the kremlin and he had his wings clipped as did all the others you mustve seen that and thought what if i carry on like this the same fate befalls me all or did you feel somehow sort of immune as a phone well arrogance it was arrogance it was stupidity it was bad bad judgment. But it was also circumstance so for a while i could get away with doing it for a very weird reason which was that when Vladimir Putin came to power he he was he was really sort of powerless because the oligarchs were stealing power from him and so every time i was exposed one of these all of darks he would come to my aid this is at the very beginning around the year 2000 he would come to my aid and and and theres this expression your enemys enemy is your friend and so for a while it was on my side you know cleaning up russia the problem was that he wasnt trying to get rid of the oligarchy he just wanted to become the biggest oligarchy himself and. Effectively did that by arresting Michael Horta kosky the richest man in russia you put the richest man in russia in jail and you and you are the Television Cameras to film him sitting in a cage whats your natural reaction going to be as another all of our it is is you dont want to be in a cage and that was the moment that the oligarchs came to him and said what we have to do flatter me or to not sit in this cage and he said 50 percent and so at that moment then that was and late 2003 to going into 2004 that was the moment that Vladimir Putin. Turned in turn into the biggest oligarchy and that was the moment that my activities became intolerable to you no longer useful to him and indeed i mentioned you arrest in madrid last year interpol warrants so you convictions in a censure do you fear for your life. Well i i live in a very precarious position where any day i could be killed or arrested illegally rendered back to russia but i dont spend my life living in fear because if i did that they would have already achieved 90 percent of their objective and so i take precautions. When and how i can i know that probably all the precautions i take can prevent the russians from killing me if they really want to kill me. And. I carry on doing what im doing im not going to im not going to stand down while youve chosen quite some place in which to do it london the u. K. A country in which 121314 estimated russian critics have lost their lives have come to a sticky end in dubious circumstances in just recent years why here why are you in london why are you living such a public existence well as i said im not the person whos going to live in fear im not the person whos going to withdraw and not the person whos going to go into hiding my reaction is to go straight back at them and. Im not going to change locations. And you know the fate may or may you know deal me a very ugly blow but but thats the decision ive taken well from from the perspective of being in london. And in the context of the wider european question which we mentioned earlier why do you think these things keep happening in britain is it the case that britain is itself compromised in terms of its ability to deal with russia because of all the money parked here because of braggs it because it cant in a sense afford to alienate countries like russia well what ive seen is that the British Government on a regular basis doesnt create consequences for really horrific crimes committed by the russian government in this country and. Xander living in co was murdered with radioactive polonium in 2006 and it was discovered that was the russian government who did this russian f. S. B. And there was no serious consequences just a few diplomats expelled alexander polygyny a whistleblower in our case was killed after jogging outside his home in surrey the police didnt even investigate it as a murder. And then of course the script all poisoning where high grade military chemical weapons were used in in a cathedral town in the center of the u. K. And the only thing that happened was 23 diplomats were expelled and those 33. 00 diplomatic slots are now being negotiated to be replaced youve got some pretty undiplomatic language passed between the 2 but under the magic language words are cheap there was no consequences and so its created an environment to allow this to happen and then the question is why and the answer is that this country is compromised because there is russian money thats polluted the political process here and ive seen it up close and personal where members of the british establishment in british lawmaking bodies are taking money to support russians in the magnitsky case and other cases take lord barker. Hes a member of the house of lords its hes a lawmaker and hes on the parent payroll of all legged or pasta running around the world trying to reduce sanctions on em. Why is that not illegal maybe it is illegal i dont know but thats outrageous and thats allowed to happen and nothing is nothings being done about it youve described to me of putin not as a man of conviction or ideology but as a modern day public he. Doesnt have hes not hes not like Joseph Stalin hes not doing all these crimes for some communist reason hes not hes not doing this for some religious reason hes doing this for money hes a kleptocrat all he cares about is money and staying alive but and that makes him much more similar to a public escobar than a Joseph Stalin or at all hitler the problem is that you give pablo escobar. The powers of a sovereign state with military and Intelligence Services and Nuclear Weapons and thats a streamlined scary combination well speaking of staying alive and we certainly hope you do do you feel that the efforts that youve put in place now. Unstoppable even potentially come a day when youre not around to loping constantly in that cause the absolutely the the magnitsky act is now turned into a viral phenomenon its jumping from country to country to country theres minsky proposals all over the world in different parliaments and governments etc and of course i can help and i can stir up the pot make things happen but without my presence they would happen at the same time and in addition to that the the Money Laundering investigation the who got the 230000000. 00 and Sergei Magnitsky was killed over has led to a Massive International Money Laundering investigation which is snared danske a bank nor dia banks where Bank Credit Suisse u. B. S. Banks all over the world are 16 countries with Money Laundering investigations going on as a result of the magnitsky case and its march much much larger than just the 230. 00. Bill browder thank you for talking to us as if thank you. Thank you. 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All flights leaving hong Kong International airport had been cancelled thats after thousands of antigovernment protesters flooded into its arrivals hall more than 100. 00 flights have been disrupted so far but Authorities Say flights which have already checked and in flights currently on their way to the city are not affected and most of the public are being told to stay away from the airport rob mcbride reports from inside hong kongs International Airport. Incredible scenes of hong kongs International Airport we just how to walk the last kilometer to get here joining a steady stream of protesters literally thousands of people getting off buses getting out of a vehicles walking through jammed roads to make it here to the terminal bring you this terminal to a complete standstill people here are outraged at what they see as the Police Brutality in the way that they cleared protests on sunday evening circulating have been various clips of video of Police Firing tear. Gas inside stations of wielding battens against protesters going down escalators and so on especially significant is the wounding of a good one of the protests who may well have lost an eye as a result people here are carrying various banners and posters calling go by Police Brutality calling the Police Murderers and so on it is true the police did seem to adopt for tougher tactics in clearing away some days demonstrations of possibly it was a way of trying to maybe scare people into not coming out not taking part in illegal activities if that was the case then maybe they have to think again. Hong Kong International airport is a major regional hub with 75000000 passengers going through there last year alone it is the 3rd busiest in the world with more than 120 airlines operating flights the local tourism board said the industry has been hit hard by the protests krypto bookings plunged by as much as 50 percent last month and bookings for august and september have also dropped significantly at the tricycle is editor of asian aviation he joins us via skype from singapore reprieve shape your time so much i know you are very familiar with this airport can you put into context for us just how significant such a drastic move like this is. Well thank you for having me yeah i actually use a little bit on kong i lived there for 10 years was married there my wife my son was born there this is an incredibly smart move by the protesters but its also at the same time an incredibly dangerous move because it will really invite mainland beijing to crack down. The hong kong airport you know hong kong is a. Huge one who one of the worlds biggest centers of commerce and for the protesters to shut down the airport this is an absolutely. I mean to me its an unprecedented move on their part and again i think its a very smart move because it is really going to get the attention of beijing but at the same time its a very dangerous move because it is going to bring more attention from beijing and im afraid that it could beijing could actually crack down and send in the military as they did in t. M. And square so let me lets yeah right i mean that youre right the protesters do things like that like this for disruption that is the point of protesting and clearly theyve been successful at least in that particular aspect so how do the Airlines Deal with this now what is what is what is it that they do to kind of unwind this situation. There is very little that the airlines can do. We have a plane in the air and the airport shuts down they have they have to vector to a different airport so if theres a plane near the airport shut down in hong kong is not accepting any more landings they have to go to somewhere like sions in which is just across the border from hong kong or they have to go to macau which is probably not the best alternative because its a fairly small airport. Or they have to turn around and go back to where they came from and thats a problem it creates a lot of. It creates chaos for the airlines because you know its not something that they plan for its not like a typhoon that shuts down the airport and they plan for that and they could go somewhere else you know this is this is something the plane is in the air and what are you going to do or they go to manila or someplace like that so it makes it very difficult for the airlines. And very expensive i was just about to ask how much money could we potentially be talking about here i mean so far its been its been one day but the disruptions have actually you know been going on for a few days now how much money can we be talking about here. It it its millions of dollars i mean every time a plane lands that the airline pays a landing fee they buy fuel they buy food and beverages you know they for the catering for the restock the airplane so it doesnt just affect the airline it affects the Catering Companies that are in hong kong it affects. You know the ground staff and everybody like that so theres lots of charges that go along with that its not just the passenger tickets and things like that its all these and similar e products that go in and its also things like duty Free Shopping i mean you know you get off the plane my wife and i we just came back from france the other day and we landed in singapore and we bought a case of duty free wine at the airport in singapore same thing in hong kong youre going to be missing out on that and similarly revenue as well so its the landing fee its the catering fee uses c. N. Salary revenue. Its a lot of money a lot of millions of dollars airports our airports are basically a small city now that ruskell thank you so much for joining us we appreciate it thank you. Irans foreign minister has accused the us of waiting a military buildup in the gulf that could destabilize the region an exclusive interview with al jazeera job at serif said more warships in the area would only lead to more insecurity reports. As the u. S. Batanes the pressure on iran tension is on the rise american and british vessels have been deployed in the gulf as the u. S. Calls for an International Military coalition to secure the strait of hold was one of the wells busiest shipping. But irans foreign minister javad zarif told. The naval build up could destabilize the entire region this is a tiny body of water and the more poor and noble vessels you have in this body of water the less secure it is for everybody. Based on experience president s of the United States important neighbor pleat in the persian gulf has never produced security america will not be held hostage to nuclear blackmail it all started last year when u. S. President donald trump pulled out of the landmark 2015 year clear agreement with iran saying it was a bad deal he then reinstated sanctions targeting to her and countries trading with it. The sanctions were soon felt in iran is economy is struggling and inflation is soaring iranian officials remain defiant accusing the u. S. And allies in the middle east of plotting to undermine that country. Iran spent last year 16000000000 dollars on all of its military with almost a 1000000 people under arms we paid 16 beauty the United Arab Emirates with a total 1000000. 00 population indigenous population spent 22000000000 dollars saudi arabia spent 87000000000. 00 now if youre talking about threats coming from countries in the region the threat is coming from the United States and its western allies who are pouring their pins into this reader making it a tender box ready to blow up where with the view clear deal it may not hold the e. U. Has established a mechanism to bypass the u. S. Sanctions but iran is calling for more its leaders warn if the sanctions continue there will resume enriching uranium beyond the limit agreed under the terms of the 2015 deal runs and germany say they wont join the u. S. Led naval build a move some see as an attempt by the 2 countries to give diplomacy a chance. And you can watch full interview with john its a riff on talk to aljazeera on tuesday at 3030 g. M. T. United states is expanding its military presence near northwestern syria alongside turkey its looking to create a safe zone in the area 6 u. S. Officials landed in salley or South Eastern Turkey on monday near the border with syria a joint Operation Center is set to be established there parker joins us live from gaza and turkey so named the arrival of these u. S. Officials what does this mean for the creation of a safe sound and northern syria. But it looks like this could be the very very start according to Turkeys Defense Ministry on a tweet that they released a little bit earlier on the 6 officials arrived at the studio shot as you said that not too far from the Syrian Border we dont know who they are or whether theyre military personnel or otherwise but it is very much being interpreted as the start of what could be a major Operation Joint operation between the United States and turkey in the coming weeks and months after 3 days of intense talks last week between u. S. And turkish officials the conclusion was indeed to push ahead with the creation of a safe so thats according to the United States what happened incrementally starting with the creation of a dry