Derek. Existing to a very straight question you know there was suspicion we managed to get over the suspicion of people who are now taking the vaccines but this is a question more about strategy to you it seems to me that the strategy is ring vaccinations that is you vaccinate the 1st person that came into contact with a boa and then vaccinate everybody who is has come into contact with that person one of just vaccinate everybody. That would be what we call a Mass Vaccination Program and it would require far more horses a vaccine then we recurrently have weve given a 160000. 00 is over the last 15 months or saw and on average theres about a 100 individuals that are identified as candidates for vaccination from from each case so its usually about 10 contacts and then. 10 more contacts with each of those contacts but one thing that the Public Health emergency of International Concern declaration might do is that might stimulate governments of rich countries to put money into subsidising vaccine production because if we are going to move from rain vaccination then hundreds of thousands of dollars is wont be enough were going to need millions of doses so for instance in the city of goma where theres a case arrived earlier this week which course some considerable concern but theres 2000000 people there and we would need 2000000 vaccines just to make sure that everybody in goma was vaccinated so perhaps know that the w. H. Y. Has made this announcement of a Public Health emergency we will get more vaccine produced and we might be able to move from vaccination to a Mass Vaccination Program just as we do for many other diseases in africa yellow fever and measles for instance are the subject of my specs nation programs. Agree do you think its time for a less facts of this program. I think its time you know that the rain stretched the rain back to nations strategy is so far its been nevertheless are limited due to the fact that Contact Trace and identification of cases has been far from our optimal it means that our we have to move away from. An ideal scenario where a reign stretched nation such as you would be our sophists and today it is proven that did this not enough in that sense we are really very much. Interested. Participate in and collaborate with the r. C. Or 3rd it is for a broadening of vaccination strategy without multiple approaches that really. Correspond to the contacts that we cannot be doing more of the same more of the same not manage a huge reduce transmission up to now in that sense are we really welcome and we think thats part of the. Stepping up the. Line taylor remembers sponsors which will proof more efficient than what it is. Up to now just wanted to add that for any vaccination strategy with these sell fundamental and essential is for their community to own peace response therefore having the choice regarding vaccines the vaccination and also the care that is proposed to them. Thats in it thats an interesting point i mean bring in from benny our guest in geneva is saying that the Community Needs to do more it needs to own this program itself in these there needs to be much more awareness would you like to see a Mass Vaccination Program amongst members of your community all jus rather see the strategy that as its going on at the moment this idea that if we only vaccinate people who have called the disease already and those people that come in contact with. Sure distracted because wendy explain the meaning of that strategy for people each way its back to her those difficulties even if those who are making you know thats nation people i know its accepting to leave out because they. Lost a year stowed state on t. V. About whats the nation some of people for dutch but nation needs. Some cause crises in diffusion and so if you use the 10s because it is an experimental vaccination you can get some difficulties in your future and so people know its. Been about snape d. D. 2 i know if you could tease those teams are facing gone but when. The outbreak to stick in your hand if people. Get way away about this christian and some of them are able to come. Thats nation place and ask for a full for what the nation because they saw that its one of strategies and if you even know whats taught or even if its not. Just or do you do create strategy it is why dont all start to do with going away to. It paula and so it is very very important also to say that there are other strategies a feeling you can waste because we cant overcome it borne out we go wic weve the community and thats thats why does ation on the community and to gets difficult. Needs Mental Community is very important for. This struggle against it. And so some teams all reports im waking world out to see how. We can get the meats ment from. The community and how we can have those but nation to do. The work any binny boy in. Places where ease waking day. Its not limited. To face time because if its only for a. Small country real people but today all people are invited to be but you need to eat and that is very one of the roots we evaluated. In this situation and to strangle so that young guns one strategy that has would bring in the community is very important strawson i just want to ask a question to derek in in lancaster of our religious to this question comes to you. The declaration that this is of a Public Health emergency of International Concern is very good for awareness but how about actual action theres a lot of concerns that it might be toothless that theyre not actually doing anything the everything that they know they could be doing to stop the virus the virus doesnt have any borders clearly and there is a concern them along may be countries neighboring countries in particular will just isolate the democratic republic of congo and thats a concern in the b. H. O. As well should we be isolating the democratic republic of congo. I dont think it would be reports about even if it were desirable to attempt to isolate a country like d r c there are many many people that cross the borders with the neighboring countries multiple times in the course of the deal or lives and theres been an astonishing 75000000 temperatures taken at official Border Crossing points no thats not 75000000 different people that say its probably rather fewer than that but it reflects the number of Border Crossings that we see every day and all of those 75000000 readings that have been taken 21 of them have turned out to be positive for 4 of all of viruses at some point or another during the last 15 months so those are 21. 00 potential cross border transmission events that havent happened because theyve been stopped at the border with the temperature monitoring with the optical thermometers and so far weve only had one case the one that got into uganda that was confronted actually cross the border so this is quite a good strategy for preventing a ball from getting out into neighboring countries its not foolproof of course theres an enormous volume of of traffic at the border so yesterday when i was either you were showing some footage of hope busy those Border Crossing points out and and how difficult it is there motive work that people doing temperature monitoring have to do on the borders but so far it has worked quite well so i think that its definitely not going to happen that will isolate congo and its not desirable for the Economic Development of this part of africa that we should do so either we already as im but just very quickly i want to follow up that question with you derek yes the it seems to be a success at the official Border Crossings but there are a number of unofficial ones of my colleague katherine soyuz report we saw somebody who had managed to get across the border and they go across the border at a place where they werent checked because it was an unofficial Border Crossing thats a concern theres no. Yes it is there also a concern that people are using unofficial Border Crossings especially people that may be may be concerned that they have a fever and would therefore not be permitted to get across and might end up in a book or Treatment Center where well the course of the fever was but isolating the border the official Border Crossings and cutting them off would just make it more likely that people would use unofficial crossings and then we would have very little control a toll over over who was crossing the border or saw and thats that something which is its probably a disadvantage just one strategy that has been used is that Medical Centers course to border us have had all of their stuff vaccinated so many medical staff in in uganda and in other neighboring countries that have been vaccinated in preparation for the likelihood that the bullet case will arrive at their Medical Center and theres a great deal of work being done in preparing medical facilities where the exist in it is near the borders and in cities which are close to the borders in anticipation of cases getting through and in fact the case that got through in uganda a few weeks ago didnt result in any more spread in uganda because that preparation in uganda was actually quite good and it did manage to catch it deal with it fairly quickly. It is we are running out of time but i would like to end with you should we be isolating d. L. C. Or is there another strategy that will work better. Well its so obvious that it would be impossible and as my colleague said so i dont think we have to spend much time and much on the contrary it can be absolutely counterproductive and risk soon measures restricting movements and and of course measures can only. Increase misra mistrust from the community and therefore for afford the affected communities to be on the contrary far from trust in the care that can be provided by but idea by the medical teams and the and their response are for the outbreaks all i would say very strongly that. 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Way. The term precrime comes from this movie minority report in which a prediction is being made about something an individual has not yet done but is going to do and a preemptive arrest is made of someone before they performed an act. If you would have asked me 37 years ago if we would have gunshot detection or video cameras in neighborhoods or be able to predict where crimes occurred i would have said youre crazy. Claiming to us a future of the future is already in the present right now its the securitize a shift of fossil sizes. I have no idea what the next 5 or 10 years is going to be into Law Enforcement terms of technology advancement. Just look you know weve come so far its going to be mind boggling. Its just. Can we predict and. Actual crime and thats before it occurred in. Our strategic subject list or called the s s l is a system that we worked with a professor from the Illinois Institute of technology an academic partner here in chicago to be able to assess and analyze those people that are at the greatest risk of being a party to violence this system is able to prioritize and tell us those individuals that we really have to focus on the work with to try to prevent that violence when you have so many different datasets or you have so many cameras watch which ones do we watch social media right so many Different Social Media communications out there how do you know what the concentrate on thats what our predictive aspect towards is for teaching subjects list thats what i thought. When i heard of this story for the 1st time i thought now its finally happening hollywood has eventually merged with real Life Software that predicts where and when the next crime occurs police that arrive at the crime scene before the perpetrator computers that generate lists with tomorrows murderers. Precrime they call it. A friend writes to me theres something foreign lumen on the horizon and we can only guess that if were shaping. Entirely wendy. They experimented with a with it a little bit in 20122013 is really when it took off they came the Police Department came up with. More than 400 names of people who fit that bill. Individuals who are most likely to be prone to violence and either as a victim or perpetrator each of the 22 Police Districts came up with 20 names and they were chosen i dont know the science of it but it was all through mathematical algorithms basically and it didnt have anything to do so much with them being hardened criminals as much as it had to do with who are they arrested with. Mr makes no difference ties im commander west and im with the 15th just as common pleas department may we come and. Take Robert Mcdaniel for example he was not a hardened criminal he had been arrested for many minor offenses like gambling shooting dice or smoking marijuana minor offenses but the people who he was arrest. And with during those crimes some of them or at least one of them was a victim of violence so the logic was that while robber belongs on the list because he has a relationship with somebody. Whos been a victim of violence because hes been arrested with that person before. Is an employee. A school drop that it was either both get work or see a drugs in the street and 7 june 1 from. Trying to get my ged that they were. And in a misdemeanor trying to get my z. The. Star given falling home and started having Police Officers walk up on me ratifying the examinate government aim where i have been and like just things like that then. I hand this all for so wes and a social worker can remove his name but they had stopped in my home they stopped at my house in some pain and told me that i was put to some type of test this and i was supposed to be a ls move to shoot somebody or give myself dat i was put on the heat theres a 400 people. Mr mcdaniel as part of my violently dungeon strategy i someone has generated a list of potential criminals actors