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A resolution but it will be published as an official document of the Uns Human Rights Council activists say its a good sign but chinas government has long stood defiant against foreign criticism katia locus of the young aljazeera. Much more to come here on aljazeera including the philippine president is accused of inciting violence as the year investigation is set to look into his war on drugs and brazils government is accused of short changing the poll with its Pension Reforms those stories after the break. How i once again welcome to another look at the international forecast pick a ping those flooding concerns the 7 parts of child at the moment loss of class showing up lots of big downpours plenty of thunder as well large hail and of course some flooding potential for mudslides you can see where the heaviest rain is where we have the dark is shading on our charles pushing up through hong kong notching further north which is we go on through saturday we could see some wet weather also encroaching into parts of shanghai by this stage whether to cross a good part off in that china the monsoon rains but he peping out once again into parts of me and mother northeast of india in particular along with bangladesh but you see how the cloud should really be right across india now even up towards the northwest is a fair bit of it still a little behind schedule having said that 35. 00 celsius for new delhi where it will be largely dry basin pieces of rain a possibility but the heaviest rain will be a bit towards the northeast of india through bihar pushing up into bangladesh over towards assam and it stays very disturbed to just around the western gas meanwhile across iraq and potentially pretty much sunshine all the way hey a little bit of cloud down towards that eastern side of man but hot and dry and at 45. 00 degrees. Every weekly nice cycle brings a series of breaking stories join the listening post as we tend the cameras on the media and focus on how they were caught on the stories that matter the most on aljazeera in australia a battle rages over the countrys bomb enemies with activists invading far stealing livestock and intimidating vomits one are when they are has these tactics gone too far on aljazeera. Talk about their watching aljazeera of means theyll run a reminder of our top stories the u. K. Says iranian boats have tried to obstruct a British Oil Tanker in the strait of hormuz but irans government denies any confrontation it follows the seizure of a rainy an oil tanker by british marines in waters near gibraltar last week. Also 2 people are dead and 17 more injured in a car bomb attack in libya the blasts happened at the funeral of a former commander who served under warlord Khalifa Haftar and the bastards from more than 20 countries have condemned chinas treatment of ethnic and religious minorities in an unprecedented move they sent a letter to the un Human Rights Council calling for the detention of weak and muslims to stop. The un Human Rights Council has agreed to begin a preliminary investigation into what it calls a Staggering Number of murders in the philippine governments world war on drugs its accusing president going to go to turkey of inciting violence against drug dealers as well as intimidating judges and degrading women Human Rights Watch estimates that at least 12000 filipinos have been killed since deterred his Campaign Began in 2016. Now the consumption of sugary soft drinks and fruit juice has been linked to a high risk of developing cancer for interest searchers surveyed 1000. 00 adults over a period of up to 9 years they found even a small daily serving of 100. 00 milliliters about a 3rd of a can of soda could raise the persons overall cancer risk by 18 percent the popularity of sugary drinks has exploded in recent decades and are already blamed for obesity which is solved as a leading factor in developing cancer well to counter the several countries have introduced your taxes the researchers say cancer rates could fall significantly if more governments follow suit but to the to view all of this report and shes with the French National institute of health and medical research and joins me now from paris nice to have you on aljazeera bought into view what made research is think of a link between cancer and sugary sweet drinks yes there are many mechanic that make these and plausible yes if you can that we observe the internet some to cohorts for instance sugar as you say it is a risk factor for obesity which is respect are far. Also excessive with arguing in thank. You i respect your haro and you believe that your guns which is a respect of against their not only implication and also. Sugary drinks can pose insulin resistance and that which is also potentially respectable cancer in terms of how do you put me in terms of cancer i mean what or what type of cancer were talking about and how does it affect if a tall men and women differently. In this study fusion was observed for all cancer and not specifically for Breast Cancer which was the cancer most we presented in this cohort and which is composed of 75 percent of women. Many people watching this program might be a little bit alarmed that a glass of fresh least squeezed orange juice might actually be bad for them could you clarify what you mean by the fact that you know certain types of sugary drinks are bad were talking about those that are manufactured or is an innocent glass of freshly squeezed orange juice something we should be weary about yes and unfortunately in this study. Either fresh squeezed orange juice is were executed with increased cancer risk this makes it years we know that in the produce is we had that at means minor or a little bit of that its with fiber and also and no. But the thing is that they also are very hight source of the sugar and the sugar contents are just is is about the same content of so that and so this is not so c we are yes it is in here yes its huge and seems to be sugar if so if its a case of perhaps drinking in moderation the government certainly taking action as we suggested in our introduction by putting taxes certainly on carbonated drinks what do you think governments can do well what more can governments do if those anything else. Yes so there are several ways of action the 1st one is the recommendations of the population for instance in france we have recommendation that say less than one glass option gary drinks per day and this includes produces also there are some Food Labeling that could be put on food and beverages and that would mark generally indicating the nutritional quality of the collect we have a score for instance and if this car in the press and spain and so it takes into account the sugar content and indicate is a consumer. We have its of the with until quality and also of course policy its just the taxes you mentioned are probably a good idea also and there may be some of the measures for instance to put a call dana what are nearby distributors of sugary drinks so that people that are 1st to the lobby instead are so so dust for instance so many new shows that could be undertaken by governments to improve the situation indeed for the moment well have to leave it there but to the t. V. Thanks very much for joining us and i will certainly look at a glass of our issues in a very different light from now on thank you. Francis passed a controversial tax bill against large tech firms which the u. S. Says unfairly targets American Companies the tax is the 1st from a major economy to be imposed on companies such as google apple facebook and even amazon the 3 percent levy will apply to any Digital Company with worldwide revenue of at least 844000000. 00 u. S. President donald trump has ordered an investigation into its impact the bottle has both in paris. Well the french finance minister Bruno Lemaire had some very strong words in the senate he said effectively that france doesnt take very kindly to threats from the United States now he was speaking in the senate that have passed this new digital tax law its imposes 3 percent tax on huge tech firms that are making more than 800000000. 00 worldwide but they have revenues of more than 30000000. 00 in france and i said that it was very important that these techs take verns pay more tax we are in a new digital age this is a new economy and these firms some of. The sort of power of a small state should be more accountable now the french president emanuel marcotte has made taxing these tech giants one of his Campaign Promises its very popular here in france in fact it was one of the demands of the yellow vest protesters and even though the u. S. Is extremely angry about these u. S. Tax tax giants tech giants that will now have to be taxed the tax will actually apply to some 30 International Companies including a French Company now france had wanted the European Union to impose a europe wide tax but it wasnt supported by all countries particularly countries like ireland that i have a low tax economy where some of these tech giants such as amazon are actually headquartered but france is forged ahead anyway because they say it is the right thing to do. In russia at least 6 people have been injured in a fire that broke out at a Thermal Power Station northeast of moscow huge flames could be seen in gulf in the building more than 150 firefighters were deployed to put it out. Benjamin netanyahu has reiterated his pledge not to dismantle even the most remote jewish settlement in the occupied west bank there had been speculation that the israeli Prime Minister may offer concessions on the legal settlements and a yet to be announced u. S. Peace proposal those concessions it was reported could have been in return for valuable political prizes from donald trump such as recognizing jerusalem as israels capital but netanyahu has declared all settlements off limits any peace plan. Or palestinian says at least one of the half 1000 olive trees have been set on fire south of nablus by illegal Israeli Settlers according to the u. N. Attacks like this have destroyed more than 4000. 00 trees since the start of the year. And the Israeli Government has reportedly enlisted its Intelligence Agency to counteract a palestinian led campaign against israeli oppression and some academics who backed the boycott divestment and sanctions movement say theyre now being targeted by rightwing nationalists as harry force that reports. In january this video of a University Professor arguing with a student over her decision to were army uniform to class turned into a major controversy for the Hebrew University in jerusalem. A lot of the professor carol hell finish can be heard telling the students shes naive if she thinks she can wear the uniform and expect to be treated as a civilian university apologized taking out advertisement encouraging students on mandatory National Service to attend in uniform professor who preach maintained at the student to deliberately initiated the confrontation she later decided to stop teaching following hate mail and reported Death Threats the video was released by a right wing prosiness Organization Called him ted sue it has long campaigned against what it calls attempts to undermine the state of israel from within in recent weeks its launched a website publicly naming dozens of leftwing academics who made accuses of doing exactly that the website new york professor lists 85 academics of Public Institutions nationwide who have among other things advocated boycotting israel or refusing to serve in the army the site encourages interred souse thousands of student members and others to suggest further names to be added to the list israels council of University President s has called the project a witch hunt carried out by political extremists loss of the professor and a matar is one of those named she says as a known far left activist with a permanent job or tell of university she doesnt feel under pressure but theres a broader threat there were trees young faculty. All the. I know it affects the way they think their way they react they were there right even though their choice of topics for writing to the surprise of many of these same tactics are being applied within israel itself into 2 denies its created a blacklist or that its seeking the sacking of individual professors it says it student members have been threatened with unfair treatment by leftist academics whats not completely acceptable or desirable is to say i believe my country should be boycotted on the world stage i believe my country should be viewed as an apartheid state as a pariah state thats not to my way of thinking acceptable especially when the state is paying your paycheck interred sue says its in gauging the continual fight to preserve the zionist state its critics say that by naming and shaming individual professors is threatening something vital to the health of that state freedom of expression for israeli academics are a force it out to syria occupied east jerusalem. Brazils congress has taken a major step towards reforming the countrys bloated Pension System a priority for present. Supporters say the measures are needed to stave off another recession but there are many who oppose it as president gupta reports. The vote that brazils president says will lead to prosperity but for some bold scenarios pension reform plan falls far short of staring at me while i am very ashamed our what is happening here tonight on wednesday the lower house approved both scenarios plan with huge numbers in an initial vote yes the age here for these reforms are aimed at reducing inequality im sure that is the goal of all parliamentarians here those who voted for and also against the bill was my god but these protesters think the poor will have to work longer why politicians maintain their privileges. The working class is living in misery heads of families are living on the street because a car pay the rent its tough before they measure the pockets of the poor they have to reach inside their own pockets because there are so many people there in the congress retiring at 4050 years and we have to die to retire brazil doesnt currently have a minimum age for retirement and its constitution guarantees Retirement Benefits for all bold sonera wants to change that his measures include a minimum retirement age of 65. 00 for men and 62. 00 for women also an increase in Workers Pension contributions and cuts to some benefits. Some say the reforms are important in a country which spend 45 percent of its budget on pensions a rapidly aging population means there could be bore burden for Young Workers but i do a similar thought that the government things it would save around 266000000000. 00 over 10 years money that south americas biggest economy can use to put itself back from the brink of recession made a little of the amazing it was going 1st the government doesnt have any more money and this is why the reform is so urgent this reform doesnt happen then we have to cut into more importantly areas secondly because of social justice i am in favor of pension reform. The lower house is expected to vote for the 2nd time in the coming days before the bill goes to the senate my. God but protest as one day will bring brazil to a standstill if the bill is passed and the demands are ignored priyanka gupta. Youre watching us there at me celeron a reminder of our top stories the government says a british warship has intervened after iranian boats tried to obstruct a British Oil Tanker in the strait of hormuz on wednesday toronto noise there was any confrontation well were very concerned this is a very serious escalation of the situation and you know we are proud that theyre all navy was there to protect their heritage but we are monitoring the situation very closely we dont want to escalate tensions we want tensions to come down they must ravi has more. From the iranian side this is black and white from the u. K. Or the u. S. Side its white and black and were really seeing competing narratives here sort of jockeying for position in really it just depends on who you believe at this stage the optics really arent in irans favor this one of swarming maneuver that the u. K. And the United States describe these fast boats undertaking this is familiar this is the kind of thing that iran is known to do your own has been accused in the past by the United States of harassing its ships its vessels its worship in the region and so this this isnt something that we havent heard before at least 8 people are being killed in a car bombing in northwestern syria another 35. 00 including children were injured the explosion happened near the city of a freend and the car bomb attack in libya targeting the funeral of a former high ranking military official has killed 2 people the Suicide Attack happened in the city of benghazi local sources say other high ranking officials were attending but survived the blast a further 17 people were injured in the attack please have fired tear gas to break up a demonstration by a shia group in nigerias capital hundreds of members of the Islamic Movement of nigeria gathered outside parliament in the boot are demanding the release of their leader at least 2 people were killed on choose day in violence between police and protesters ambassadors from 22 countries have condemned chinas treatment of ethnic and religious minorities they sent a letter to the un Human Rights Council calling for the detention of legal muslims to stop china denies mistreating those with a headline story navigator will be here with the aljazeera news hour and a half an hour next on are just there its the street you stay with us. As iraq rebuild itself following the years of conflict women struggle to play a bigger role politically and Domestic Violence also remains a problem. Some of the brave women battling abuse talked aljazeera about the struggles they face and their pursuit of justice. Higher for the ok im really could be here in the stream today 3 segments from libya we will look at the battle for tripoli show ideas for ending the country at war and hear about migrants caught in the countrys conflict as always you can take part in our conversation send us your thoughts via twitter or in our live chat. Why all detained migrants being killed in libya questions still surrounding july the 3rd air attack in a tripoli that destroyed a Migrant Detention Center and killed at least 50 detainees and wounded 130 others a u. N. Special envoy to libya said that the attack could constitute a war crime the incident is believed to be one of the most fatal cases a civilian deaths since april when rebel forces led by general Khalifa Haftar launched a military offensive to seize the capital city have a listen to what u. S. Spokes person Charlie Yaxley had to say about the attack on migrants this was a despicable tragedy that never should have happened about the situation of the detainees into jewelry just 2 months ago we called for them to be evacuated after a similar strike badly damaged the roof of this and 2 of the detainees sadly they were not evacuated and 50 of the detainees who paid the price with their lives what we need now is a significant shift in approach the clashes continue. And there remain some 3800 people in Detention Centers at risk of being caught up in the violence we need in holland search and rescue capacity and renewed efforts to make sure that nobody no refugee is returned to libya to come and be considered to have a safety at this time the tragic events of the last week of. It with us to talk about this from tunis sam turner he had the Libyan Mission for Doctors Without Borders or m. S. F. And is some ball of them called that i said to a Senior Writer with the libya observer and in rome italy claudia busy me a Senior Analyst with the International Crisis Group Welcome to the stream all of you i want to start with our community and someone in particular who says theyre in so this is and open native and the people behind this account say the be official page of refugees in libya in suffering and opened their breaks the migrants into shelter where they were bombed by an airstrike sharing this picture with us today they got out of the euro because the u. N. H. C. R. Is unable to save or evacuate them and still many are waiting for evacuation and assistance and of course we heard what the u. N. H. C. R. Spokesperson had to say at the beginning of this show but sam what do we know about this attack. What we know is is quite simply the that it represents an atrocious attack on civilians no no matter who they are but in this case it was civilians who were trapped who were locked into a detention facility leading to such an extraordinary and immediate loss of life old we believe up to 60 people who were killed in this attack on the Detention Center where migrants refugees and Asylum Seekers were being held im coming to months after a similar strike on the same Detention Center compound that was referenced by charlie from u. N. H. C. R. I was actually into dura Detention Center the day after the Previous Strike and i went into that cell where the shrapnel torn through the roof and issued piece of metal had bounced off the ground just a metre away from where a baby was sleeping on a mattress and the women were terrified and i can only imagine the level of fear and desperation now felt by all those refugees migrants who continue to be trapped in Detention Centers in libya and from whom there are really no options at the cottage you want to explain why where the stench is sent to whats become a target. Actually theres no sublimation why it would be argued that they do own the building a nation that i can say is the. Let me say the madness of the attack on the attackers because like you know shortly before one day before the attack after hours forces that his folks men they said were going to be carrying out Precision Air strikes on that target and in tripoli and the day after the air strike at the Migrant Center and the day after the Migrant Center was helped by airstrike the disposed men i met in this matter you said that we did that that the air. We carried out the airstrike on on our dime on which is another name for Detention Center and he said you know this was like an absolute confession and admission of the tag there was no action or no contamination and you know that the u. N. Security council failed to condemn the because of the u. S. You know the reaction and then they condemned the attack but they didnt condemn the people who carried out the attack so this is actually a failure on many levels and thats why its happening and its happening just of billions liggins or migrants both of them are civilians but the did the tragedy here is that because the civilians who are trapped and have nowhere to go they are forced to be in that place they cant run away they can go freely around the area thats the only thing. That i feel like i i think they feel if you live for a little bit more of context. Go ahead go in the ceiling the give us again i have i think we need a little bit more context because we have to place this attack within an ongoing war that is happening since you know the beginning of april between courses of the Libyan National army headed by a hostile are against the forces of the trip backed government and its since april that was seeing day the airstrikes on tripoli and on various parts of tripoli mainly targeting the literally relations or allegedly buildings and infrastructure believed to be under the control of the military factions from the Opposing Side now this attack on the 3rd you were at the time. According to the l a nay was. A mistake they claim they were attacking a weapons depot over an armed group in the nearby area it is this time that there is an armed group based in the cost of land neighboring this has told you a Detention Center and the previous air attacks that my colleagues were referring to the one that happened 2 months ago did appear to have targets one was the use to. Go to impose those weapons because well i know you say understand that they do they have al and i and Libyan National army we also have community wanting to being part of this conversation as well so how tight what just come back to just a moment really kind of quality on your point about this being part of an ongoing war and so of course this started much of this started with the advance towards tripoli by honey funhouse the i want to share the viewpoint from a journalist sally hayden who makes that same point and says this is not unique in itself and this is part of a chain of other things that weve seen so have a listen to what sally told the stream. The number of deaths in 2 sure the latest 10. Deaths in Detention Centers to scare and. Witnesses told me that 2 refugees who tried to escape at the end of june were shot and killed by guards. For more ive seen there is no responsibility for any of these to a vast e. U. The us and theyve been a target nobodys adding up the number of people dying in detention and also there doesnt really seem to be much of an attempt to tell the families of the people who die. So sam do you want to take that on because she says there seems to be a lack of responsibility claims on the either side. Absolutely and so is completely right to to bring up the this situation in other dissensions senses not only in conflict related deaths where we have seen a horrific attack on the cusp of being the sure in in late april where an armed group stormed a Detention Center where over 800 people were being were being held we know that in that incident several people were killed and up to 20 others injured but these deaths in Detention Centers are not just confined to Armed Conflict and we have seen numerous deaths in Detention Centers from preventable causes due to the lack of provision of medical services and other extremely poor conditions of detention themselves i mean as as we currently stand the the war in tripoli has had a horrendous effect on all of the civilians who are living in tripoli and the surrounding areas but the w. H. O. The World Health Organization figures suggest that they can come from around a 160000000000 deaths since the start of this conflict now we know for certain that around 60 of those deaths are amongst refugees and migrants in Detention Centers this conflict is happening a disproportionate impact on on this population and yet its all just part of a much Bigger Picture study and hinted at earlier so i want to push on just a little bit to the battle for tripoli more than a 1000 people have been killed since april as 2 rival coalitions fight for control over the capital city a libya has been in conflict since the ousting of mama khadafi and 2011 and currently the country has 2 rival governments in tripoli a un recognized government of National Accord which only received support from turkey and qatar and in libyas east road commander heidi for have tatar and his self declared Libyan National army theyve been advancing on tripoli with a ground an air offensive backed by the u. A. E. Saudi. Arabia and egypt abuses have allegedly been committed by both sides well the World Health Organization said on tuesday that 106 civilians have been killed in the fighting so have a listen to general. The operations spokesman for the self declared Libyan National army. And the instructions issued by the commander in chief of our forces are not to target any governmental private or Public Institutions these institutions belong to citizens or belong to the state they cannot be targeted because we care about it we are responsible army and disciplined force which cares about the interest of the country. So you heard what he had to say there but i want to share what this means for many members of our audience in libya this is no one who says this war penetrates into everyones life no matter how much we resist succumbing to its form it ability she goes on to say where i live its not considered close to the heavy fighting but they make sure to remind me of the war every now and then by those loud rumbles and the sound of sirens never fails to make your heart cringe as you realize that your fellow libyans are losing their lives for no good reason the smell of death is sort of the tolls keep getting higher as the stakes do to what has this conflict in this push towards libya towards tripoli rather of the cars that are meant for your average resident. Actually did the residents are directly impacted by this you know fighting because water caught our cars and everything but lets talk about the displacement and the 1st place this fighting since april 3rd has displaced so far over 100000 people and more of course and these people are spread around tripoli the capital and western other western regions hit it now this displacement means a lot because these families have nowhere to go most of them went to school so the education ordered the system as because of families you know being hosted in the schools or other other issues are related to the to the like the hospitals the medical staff and did the lack of services because of the big numbers of injuries and the idea that most of the medical medical facilities are in nephite things. Lets talk about the infrastructure and the problem the private and Public Properties that have been targeted by the house theres forces an air strike. We have like you know who. Stores we have. Course school boats for the governments have been targeted we have like many private properties that have been destroyed if you look at footage from. For example just to bring it here from the version you can be told will destruction of private property these are things that cannot be regained so easily people are people have worked their lifetime in order to build a house and you know build a small shop to buy to sell things to the be able to are you know like a human to human you carry an issues ok and these are like very simple things that are not caught by everybodys eyes codys i also just to sum up general have to what would you say about. Well general hocked our divides that are in libya i feel that he is a hero that saved. You know radical groups that have put their city in. Busy many many that have a completely opposite view and see him as the incarnation of evil. That may be a lot of war against terror to wage a war against opponents and these individuals essentially consider him in. Busy power. Its not up to meet to define him but i think that they didnt recognize that hes a divisive figure in libya and unfortunately to reconcile and theyre going to bring back together theres one tree that seems frankly for 2 units divided into political entities 2 rival governments and military actions there needs to be. Movement and to find a middle ground motherly you know part of the there is and whats he doing on many other issues that have divided into continue to divide the country and to go back to your question about you know what is the impact of this war in tripoli. My colleague before mentioned sort of their humanitarian impact of the war but i think theres a much more important. Political long term impact of this war because up until 4 months ago and still some hope of that we can sit nation through these folks are you learning let me but since the place that was to the teeth in a quote that has all. Of the conflict so the armed groups that are supporting the tip the government and the armed forces that are supporting the National Army could listen headed by how are both sort of going in to work they will they can they. Well were almost you know only one woman. And i think this is the biggest tragedy of war that. The parties of the conflict a lot. Lot of examining other Less Community you also want to weigh in on this point so final segment so blue ships can there be such a thing to the war in libya after 8 years of conflict why has it been so difficult to end the countrys war fighting in tripoli has forced us bowman to some peace efforts despite tripoli face Prime Minister Fayyad Alcide Raj last month proposed a Libyan Congress and thats aimed at finding out peaceful solution to the conflict heres what he said on june 16th. Weve decided during this form what will be the future roadmap of this period and create the suitable constitutional law to hold president ial and parliamentary elections before the end of 2019 which a political solution what are the possibilities is that where you know about negotiations that are going out of the negotiations for negotiations to take place even. Actually negotiations have stopped the movement astar lives the offensive on tripoli you know you know the story but one thing is important here how start is advocating for military rule in libya so there is no negotiation or political solution on his agenda is talking about bringing him back to the the you know the the family rules not the military rule not the dictatorship alone no the family rule is like the gadhafi rule where his son can take part of the governing of the of the country we can see that very clearly now. 2 or 3 are in the military and the other one is just doing if youre patient then entertainment south then because the this is absolutely i mean policy that does not help libyan libyans once a modern a civilian the state based where they can go and vote and choose their you know their armaments and their president this was very close to happening before the attack of tripoli that was led by half there so the idea that the rise dead that we need a new method for. Ordinary goshi ation is absolutely helpful because you cannot negotiate with someone who really lived the coup against negotiation again we need the new faces that represent the Eastern Region with certain region and the Southern Region and we need the new people new political figures to lead negotiation libya libya negotiation under the un ive heard bad i think im really legal things thats somewhat Wishful Thinking in the sense that i take note of that russias. Synergism vission to has a new use for in the days as i can remember was before he says from the east. But we have to face the fact that willingly or unwillingly. His voice is a government that backs i reality on the ground and i dont like them im not like that he might about them or or agree with them but its difficult to loads of process that excludes an actor that has the military might to attack tripoli and has the level of foreign support that you cant still somehow i think we need to be thinking about a new form of alert that called i dont in the situation but certainly not one which a program or e excludes is a choice on the ground and less of an i think i think one thing that is explicitly clear in this situation and in libya is that while governments around the world put their own National Interests 1st. And perpetuates the Current Situation in terms of the military support that has been provided to both sides in the conflict or be it the policies of european states where the priority appears to be more about controlling migration and supporting libyans to see a peaceful insist and successful libya i think and so we see a change in that situation were going to continue to see the ongoing conflict that has rocked the country for years i want to share the viewpoint of one of our Community Members from outside of libya who is looking at this as so many of our Community Members are as to what International Players can be doing so this is a and heres what he told the string. This is. To give. Of your. Boss an interesting discount leave by everybody who wants to argue. The. Study dead of my god i believe. Any form of control by external forces. Can govern out. The. Before and the same kind of. Wearing to abuse. So he mentions external forces there he is not the only one this person tweeted in my opinion the wars and is not and have to or d. N. A. As hands are too many external forces at play claudio what do you make of that point yes i mean there is no doubt that the conflict in libya is a multi tier on the one level we have the International Component on the plan and in fact they are regional actors they are playing out their own what was so well as you mentioned earlier there is a correlation and access that goes from tired and you eat ready saudi arabia that have a common vision for the region and see. The other side and so this is the International Dimension of the conflict but then we have also you know completely different layers we have a political conflict we have a military conflict between rival military cooperation then we have a conflict over the control of the countrys finances and then the phenomena the source so long Term Solution of the conflict in libya and requires an intervention an old street levels that needs ready to get very tense of the International Actors to pressure their proxies so their friends in libya to accept the cease fire and accept talks thought i mean them start by late im symbiotes but on. So either domestic level there needs to be political talks it needs to be military to military. Local about security in tripoli but nationwide and could i dont sound like a conversation of my mother and a whole plot are you talking to anybody in libya right now you felt you sound like youve got the entire plan just put out that because this has been this this whole entire conflict has been going on for 8 years that sam claudia thank you so much for your insight the 3 different topics that we were looking at or surrounding in libya over the last couple of months and also he is many and with poetic words from doha who is a poet she wrote the metaphor of war and this part really caught our attention buildings fragment they crumble 2 armies in my city rumble halting our lives while fighting for their city and the libyan social fabric tears thank you for that we had so Many Community comments about whats going on in libya so this conversation will continue online and you can i will find youll find us at a strain on twitter and to the next time a ceiling like that so much. 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Government says it wants to lower the tension with iran after conflicting stories over what happened to an oil tanker in the strait of hormuz iranian boats are accused of trying to obstruct a british vessel in one of the worlds busiest oil shipping channels or britain says the 3 iranian vessels turned away after a british navy warship intervened and gave a verbal warning iran has denied any confrontation with the british vessel to han has been threatening to retaliate since british marines seized an Iranian Oil Tanker in waters near or last week we have a team of reporters on this story for you we are also in jordan children us from washington in a moment they must ravi also speak to us from tehran but 1st we begin with rory chalons in london and as were saying rory 2 competing narratives what more are british authorities saying. Well the british certainly arent treating this as a big emergency there were no shots fired and subsequently be no meeting thats the high level Cabinet Office organization arranged by damming street to discuss mash matters of National Emergency that hasnt happened so the british are trying to i think lower tensions here not raise them what they say happened is that a ship oil tanker operating by b. P. Called British Heritage was heading out of the gulf when it was approached by 3 iranian vessels and because the british have been jumpy ever since the Iranian Oil Tanker was seized a week ago. These ships have basically had had escort saw naval ships that have been shadowing them and thats what happened the h. M. S. Frigates. Montrose which is a naval frigate was on hand and stepped in between the british tanker and these iranian ships and and warn them off we can in hour from jeremy hunt whos a British Foreign secretary his take on what went on. Well were very concerned this is a very serious escalation of the situation and you know we are proud that theyre all navy was there to protect their heritage but we are monitoring the situation very closely we dont want to escalate tensions we want tensions to come down. So of course the context of all this is the escalating tensions between iran and the United States and the u. K. Is trying to operate in the quarter sort of uncomfortable position somewhere in the middle between the u. S. And the you because the the the u. K. Along with European Countries wants to keep the Iranian Nuclear deal alive but it also wants to maintain as brics a britain lumbers on its close alliance with the United States that puts it in a in a tricky position the u. S. At the moment is trying to build some sort of consensus for an International Task force of navy ships in the gulf to protect civilian shipping and this incident might bolster the u. S. Case for such a task force and needs in the last few moments we have heard from Central Command a common saying that threats to International Freedom of navigation require an International Solution that is from u. S. Central command ok thank you very much for that update from london rory chalons and well have more on that statement out of the u. S. In a moment but 1st lets cross over to send us ravi hes joining us from tehran because thats a very different version of events thats coming out off iran. Yes thats exactly right the optics certainly arent in irans favor this swarming maneuver that the United States in the u. K. Described these 3 fast those 3 or 5 is the number these fast boats carrying out against a ship that is very reminiscent of reports weve heard in the past. It is familiar the iranian navy has done things like that in the past weve heard reports of iranian small fast boats harassing American Warships of interfering with the travel of naval vessel in these waters before so its sounds relatively calm and it has to say this kind of interaction between irans navy a country thats been isolated for so long and vessels belonging to the United States the u. K. Is not the 1st time weve heard of Something Like this but of course everything takes on a much more political nature at this heightened time of escalating tensions between iran and the United States and the u. K. And just a few days ago and a week ago when the u. K. Room marines took over an Iranian Oil Tanker in gibraltar a lower ranking. Commander in islam a revolutionary guard Corps Commander suggested that irans government carry out a tit for tat kind of action and this really would feed in to that narrative but the fact of the matter is that our brands government and military have flatly denied any encounter with any foreign vessel in the last 24 hours the Public Affairs to division of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Naval forces said it simply did not happen irans foreign minister zarif said the same thing nothing of this sort happened and any suggestion that it would have it is an effort by the u. K. And the u. S. To escalate tensions with iran further and looking at that denial we see a real competition of narratives here and the United States a few months ago suggested that it was teheran that was behind the attacks on oil tankers in may in june of this year iran of course denied that and said it was a u. S. Run false flag operation to enable the United States to pursue and to iran agenda in the region so as long as we see these escalating tensions we see these competing narratives its difficult to see how any sort of negotiated. It might be possible this war of words coming forth a day after the french president a. Top diplomat in on for tehran to discuss exactly that but at this point in time it would seem overly optimistic to suggest any kind of negotiated solution all right thank you so as you are hearing the u. S. Central command has just put out a statement stressing the need to protect shipping lanes it says threats to International Freedom of navigation require an International Solution the World Economy depends on the free flow of commerce and it is incumbent on all nations to protect and preserve this linchpin of global prosperity dourdan will join us from washington d. C. To talk us through that particular statement rosalind thats just come through and also tell us whether there has been any reaction from trump in the white house. Well 1st i mean there hasnt been any reaction from the u. S. President donald trump although it is thought that he is going to be holding a press conference later on thursday on an unrelated matter and in that case he might well take questions about this incident but as you noted u. S. Central command which is in charge of u. S. Military operations in the middle east has commented on the incident and while it was not directly involved in the confrontation if i can use that word between the british and the iranians it does stress as you say the need to keep the strait of hormuz open flew all International Traffic particularly commercial traffic because about 40 percent or so of the worlds. Petroleum reserves travel through that very narrow body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and the rest of southwest asia more particularly near iranian territory its important to note that the u. S. Is saying that all efforts need to be made to preserve this commercial trafficking and in fact it dovetails with an effort being put forward by the u. S. Government to try to get more countries to add their military resources to preserve free commercial shipping through that region they are trying to make an appeal to countries in the middle east theyre trying to make an appeal to countries in Southeast Asia theyre trying to make an appeal to countries in europe so tribute personnel and vessels in order to protect International Shipping and what the u. S. Argues is International Waters this is something though it has not brought on a lot of other countries on board so far as far as we know only saudi arabia and the United Arab Emirates have come out fully in support of what would be known. As operation sentinel rolls in jordan giving us the update from washington d. C. Thank you. And were just getting some breaking news that were hearing from police in gibraltar that theyve arrested the chief officer off that supertanker grace one that was detained last week earlier this month for breaking e. U. Sanctions on syria and were also hearing that the captain has been arrested this is according to media and gibraltar citing police so well find out more and bring you that story as it comes to us right here on aljazeera. So whatever did happen though its clear that tension does remain high as we mentioned the strait of hormuz is one of the worlds most important waterways and every year thousands of vessels pass through the shipping lane which is just over 3 kilometers wide at its narrowest points and almost a 5th of the worlds oil thats around 20000000. 00 barrels a day is shipped through that particular straits and ships have to navigate the territorial waters of both amman and iran but theyre protected by a Un Convention on the law of the sea which would which should allow them to pass without problem lets not speak to simon maybe and hes the director of the Richardson Institute for peace studies in Lancaster University is joining us from there now so obviously simon maybe on the straight of her moods is very important and very significant this particular incident that developed earlier today or the alleged incident just another flashpoints in a series of maritime episodes that involve iran but 1st tell us what do you make of the sort of conflicting and competing narratives coming out of iran and the united kingdom. I dont think its particularly surprising that were seeing competing narratives were hearing tales about what happened from london and from. What we would expect to see