Related to concessions for bus routes. Well those are the top stories here on aljazeera stay with us the stream is next. Ok and you had a very stylish stream today Legal Professional Development of media what she designs of the models on the runway but this is the constrains tell us all that youre looking to censure the media to find fashion of models that represent your body type and your way of dressing a little sort of fashion. And with about eight hundred million users instagram has become a fashion for many including those who dress modestly plus size models or designers who sell gender nonconforming clothes so we asked our community some of their favorites and heres what they told us geo rubber gado says mine are two germans joe lasted for formal executive smart casual and daniel tony for casual every day street where. On instagram also wrote to us with her favorite cut to be whose style is as sharp as her wit you can see some of her instagram photos right there and ill throw in a shout out to just one of my favorites kima whose pitch was also an inspiration for todays show. Now modest clothing has had a very successful few years especially marketing to the muslim demographic for example nike developed a professional sports people and the u. S. Department store macys announced it would begin carrying modest clothing and he shops and stores but modest fashion designers of many faves have already been highly Successful Online speaking directly to their consumers for years so with us now to discuss our. Sisters and founders of the frock in my see thats a modest clothing line were also joined by for human psyche shes an entrepreneur and a fashion director at blue may a modest fashion label she created with her sisters welcome to the stream all of you really excited to have this conversation especially this topic of course i want to start with a video comment we got because our community is just as excited to have this conversation this is a her and she is a passion entrepreneur in the modest fashion industry heres what she had to say the surprising thing i learned creating good to see. Was big for not making much effort to reach out to real women and hear from them and see what they wanted and was really shocked to understand how little consideration is given for a real woman coming into test. Can you relate at all were you shocked before you started your line that you couldnt find things that specifically spoke to you in the way that you wear your clothing. Its interesting i just think we used to spend our childhood buying clothing and then going to buy trimmings and lace and all these different of the snippets of fabric so we could like scaring markets like odds and ends and random dresses that were not in schools to fix the clothing in order that they were able to be one way out of the modest way because there really wasnt anything available it was all about the jeans tank top pair of short shorts and that was it and so it was very difficult and thats how we started just training our eye in the fashion sphere of how we would alter what was there in order to meet our needs thema as a designer when youre looking at designing something thats money its what are you looking at what are you looking at that perhaps another designer might not be focused on. Im looking now were not out there in the fashion world already something that a lot of the modest. Clothing the girl that would want to wear a lot of the females the hoops well too they really are inspired by like back in mainstream fashion and they like the you know on instagram but its so hard for them to find so we try to recreate it in ways where its modest and theyre able to carry about those ways in which its modest that was what i was getting at what are you looking im focused on were what you know by making sure that its fully covered making sure its long sleeves making sure it didnt have any cut out. It can be luther very easy if given them the options there are many Different Levels of modest as well and we like to have you know Different Levels or any kind of muslin or even known most. So we actually got a tweet here from mona who writes and that to me modest fashion is an outer expression of our devoutness to god we still do however like to dress fashionably and trendy so thats why having the verona collection writerly available at macys thats what we talked about the beginning of the show is so incredible its like finally having a voice and i want to actually share a picture here for him of this is one of your designs on the runway tell us a little bit about the thinking behind this. So right now what we created that. We had in mind like the latest trends definitely laurel was the color of the year. We try to incorporate the blairs also like we did which to surrender you know what was trending and what most of the consumers are into we like to take that and make it like modest growth. I just want to show you this this is the rock em i say this is your instagram ladies going down here i used to live in brooklyn i lived in a very Orthodox Jewish area and this was not the fashion that i was seeing no definitely not not not us hows your shitty reacting to this because this stuff is easing me here in the beginning i do have to say that when we first moved to brooklyn we were definitely seen as different and we still stand out and what weve noticed and what were trying to say is that we are not the define our in judaism of what is modest for everyone and what is being modest for certain levels we are trying to share a perception and say modesty is about an attitude its about telling the world that a woman can be valued beyond her body so when we design clothing were not looking at what skin to show were looking at how you can have fun with fabrics and drape and play and layering to express the woman with her desires a through design what was interesting that i found that over the you know over time people seen as one of the i mean more label is that of followers our customers are ours like hey we can also be modest its relatable its easy its actually do or michelin us a way that we cannot you know we can wear what youre wearing and also your question or not feel like im only being much less so aside from sharing allostatic were also sharing an attitude and when we we welcome women from all different faiths that have all different standards of dressing and for example they would say to us i dress like this a b. And c. And i want this to be covered and say there is no problem with making that fashionable as well because its not about what you want to show its about who you want to be and thats a whole attitude about our whole brand its about designing clothing that changes the perception of what a modest woman is so i want to give you this critique. Craig here im not sure i completely understand it but maybe you will this is verges on twitter who says theres a fetish obsession with the word monis nobody is interested in what it represents theyre just using it as a ticket to stardom as a creative designer im pretty troubled by where its going to goes on to say representation and inclusive clue city is important but how its represented is equally important and right now its noisy modest you tubers grabbing the limelight and see me and you relate to that at all i hear i heard a yes when i was reading some of my i was. Actually discussing recently we were talking we said we were getting quite i would say not bored but it was like a mother said a word for lack of better wall would modest this and modest that and the world is a new modest dream and what we were trying to and what we constantly try to share is that its not necessarily about a specific area of skin that youre covering and not covering were really trying to show people just by being out on a cells that its about how you value yourselves as a woman and that is what were trying to share so yes more ladies are still a battle worth the modest step now we want to use money so we should be talking about this have you come up with a better way its a description its a i would say its almost like having a sensitivity a sensitivity to yourself and to your surroundings solzhenitsyn. I would say and i like incense and i like a little bit of the word sensitivity because its modest often especially today its a modest this and modest that modest is a new everything in its loses its losing its beauty and how it will tend to city so its almost about. A womans empowerment and because everyones modest will be different everyones modest what someone might consider modest in a tank top and short someone might say is not modern dont really about a sensitivity to your surroundings where you are what youre doing and how you carry yourself and what are you sort of calm and empowering a woman to feel like she doesnt have to sexualize herself in order to be valued i want to ask you about Media Coverage and the impact that youre having but i would ask you to sit tight because were doing a couple of different fashion in the program today so if a hema and yet and see me keep watching the show were talking about more fashionable a bit back with you in a couple of minutes now the runways of milan paris new york are coming off the back of a really successful year of inclusive a t. V. And Great Strides are being made in fat one publication even found that twenty seventeen was the most diverse year in fashion but the major fashion houses have been slow to reflect the popularity of plus size fashion on social media is franciscan the amman shes the c. E. O. And founder of plus size at the last city in kenya you can access pieces. You know online or you know in the sharks and argus is because of the work that we have to do to assure you that as a stock is that there is a big market that needs not to be on and we look forward to having more connections. That in greece the plateaus going to need to to make them look fashionable to make them look if youre confident about exams and you know ive been every day that are. Being inclusive in the fashion industry and we hope to see this change Going Forward and the lucky cheese but for ever with it in different. So were talking plus size models with us on the phone Trey Campbell is a songwriter and plus size model for a sauce he recently was in mens fashion week in new york and charlie recently is a fashion blogger writing about plus size fashion really good to have you both on the show ok let me just recreate a moment that we had an editorial meeting yesterday i said outloud that i didnt think the plus size was a pejorative word and emma lekas said. If you look at penny she is probably not characterized by many people as plus size but at the something its something similar to what i said but it actually that terminology is something that we got online we just got this via you tube misty knight says why do you people say so call when it comes to plus size clothing to me thats an admittance that people are aware that plus size clothing doesnt encompass true plus sized people charlie terminology is so difficult here what do you call this. Yeah i use the term i am very very happy to call my so so who find it offensive that. In terms of what i think its really how you identify. Im on the edge of kind of. I can show in straight mainstream shops and shops ok to the larger woman. Even when it comes to you kind of plus size fashion it excludes a lot of women so. If you are say u. K. Size twenty eight which is going to be us twenty who are think youre probably not going to be out shopping a lot of the stores out so things are Getting Better in terms of being able to show in stores. Yeah plus i. Like to try and im really curious tell him to bring in try him because he also is a plus size model try really curious about how would you describe the way the main fashion industry treats people who are not a size that pertains with abs how would you describe that that situation well unfortunately i feel like the fashion industry hasnt taken note of what the majority of fashion consumers are a lot of consumers come in all different shapes and sizes so for me i think its a Good Business move just to be paying attention to who the actual consumers of fashion are described below sigh this is not the way to describe it yet you describe you were looking at pictures of me. So i. Guess two hundred and seventy five so im definitely bigger does and you all were talking about the term plus i personally love the term plus because. Possibly commentated were. More and. More personality more to love and i think thats definitely a positive thing i own the term. I love the owning of it i want to bring in one other voice to someone on twitter Jacqueline Jackie mary says it is the responsibility of designers to make people who are larger or dont have off the rock rack figures feel qualified to be consumers and the same goes for diversifying the beauty standard with different kinds of model looks so tray i know that there was one Company Company in particular that made you feel valued as a customer tell us about that. Definitely so as a bigger guy its difficult to go into a lot of the bigger Retail Companies and sign apparel that first and foremost make you feel comfortable and secondly that fits well so a dear friend of mine told me about the company ayso who is pretty much ahead of the trend when it comes to being all inclusive with sizing. I ordered a couple of things online i think the top of last year. They came to me in two days they have two day shipping and this was incredible i found it astounding that an Online Retail brand was able to get my so well without like me actually go against a store and trying on something. I can just bring him back back in and see me as a human im just wondering if all of you listening to each other are you a movement to him i do you feel that what youre doing is a movement or youre part of an easement to open up the fashion industry. We definitely are this is the movement of the fashion industry has been lacking and its really great to see that its finally you know theyre finally picking up a lot of designers are trying to be more body inclusive theyre trying to be more you know we have big designers trying to create. We have person serrano which is one of my favorite designers who. Always has plus size models i think its a Great Movement thats happening right now in the world and hopefully going Getting Better new year charlie i want to bring up something that we got some interesting feedback from our Online Community we asked do designers have a responsibility to be more inclusive haley lynn writes and the word responsibility makes inclusive any sound like a burden i think with the current state of the world and every other industry includes city is a natural progression in order to not only ensure self acceptance but also for designers to survive as businesses would you agree without charlie yeah i think its not really about it was then its about jim and me being nice people and being inclusive. You know i think what im getting from this is a modest freshness so we wont die the scene we want toys and we will design a. Fashion house if you give us. Their kind of guy and gesture over the know. They need to start listening to peoples demands and he could need realizing that we need choice trey im just wondering if we took social media out of this makes the fact that we can see you havent seen charlie and see hi and see me and say he met your vision of the kind of fashion you want to weigh it was just social media out of that makes what do you think is the. Honestly i think we would still be in the same place as two years ago because body positivity and visibility is such a big thing in social media its brought because to the forefront its the call to mainstream attention so honestly im really thankful for social media for connecting so many people and bringing a word i had acquired that i just i just like to add that i think this whole responsibility of being inclusive in that thankfully to social media its not just a movement its more of a community so when automatically when we feel part of a community and when others feel part of a community of plus size models and different interface that make people feel comfortable to cover up more or to show amazing pictures of themselves even if theyre wearing a size twenty eight being part of a community allows someone to say oh hey i love doing this and it gives them more of a sense of power and freedom to to continue doing it actually it also is educating the design is of what you know who they consumerism and we consumers so we do you know share our voice and their needs and it is their responsibility and if theyre not owning up to that responsibility then they might not you know they might not survive and they might not have that same connection to their customers in the community and thats what we have to do because we listen and we feel like we are connected we have peers with our customers and without because of all the communities that i play so i want to throw one other thing at you this is a headline that we saw not too long ago new York Fashion Week calendar add category four unisex and nonbinary fashion we actually got a video comment from someone whos talking about opening up that realm on the runways this is april and this is what they told us. Gentles fashion isnt until the Twentieth Century drinking age of five progressive done for you grounds of gender the rise of gentle fashion comes from a desire for a more Inclusive Society this is not a fashion trend but a Grassroots Movement of individuality and. The see me im scrolling through there instagram rate now rick it dot co clothes that transcend gender just going down that rate now how important do you think mainstreaming yourselves is is that except in something that you are looking for for me i think i think the whole idea of mainstreaming what we want to share is very important because it sharing it sharing attitude and sharing a vision of inclusively of saying that. We design for all cells us as women we can be who we want to be regardless of how much skin we are showing or not so the whole idea of inclusive beauty and mainstreaming what were doing is very important because more of a voice its just as much a voice as it is a fashion label that just appeals to the aesthetics and says i just had a picture of you to vogue no less congratulations and. Lots of stories for him about his job charley you funny the press and allowed chasing you to im just wondering how the media is reacting to staff that helps get the word out charlie. Maybe not so much i think. Is a secular barrier to people actually saying its ok to be different sizes were ok about showing that. Yeah i think its definitely Getting Better than eight bloggers out there who are featured very heavily. Than even a big blogger over in the u. K. Has just partnered with an amazing question here and all of the newspapers are picked up on. The issue with that is comes a lot calling. It kind of scary for a woman to go on Something Big and go into a paper because you know that youre going to get criticized for after the hate around. So you kind of have to go to what would be funny to people to make them understand what it is that youre trying to do so they might just maybe take a pause before they start trolling. I mean its just im human you know because im. Human i still like fashion i still have family i still like to have interests and hobbies and i am human just because that doesnt mean im not trying to hear something that would completely agree with you though i think most people that are watching our show would completely agree with you this is the kirby fashionista who says in a Perfect World i wouldnt be relegated to shopping online only i could walk into every store knowing theyd carry my size and style a static masters would have race and size diversity there would be ignorant comments made and would be fully welcomed and celebrated train the last few seconds of our show here what would be your Perfect World. In a Perfect World we would just be more open to diversity i think were and again age where so much is in the mainstream and social media and i think we just need to be aware and just celebrate our differences instead of tearing each other down because of those differences i personally believe that those differences and the diversity of the world are what make it such a beautiful place to live and to try and charlie in hyannis to me as a human thank you for making the show so incredibly stylish trying before you go you were all new York Fashion Week you walk that catwalk in street was what was that experience like. It was exciting and nerve wracking and i dont know i think that game changer im hoping that this is going to inspire other designers and other retailers to follow in a sort of that and being more body. 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