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In bangladesh those are the headlines up front is next. Facing realities growing up when did you realize that you were living in a special place the socalled secret city getting to the heart of the matter while activists to live and deal just because she expressed herself here their story on top to how does iran at this time. Hes been called one of the most wanted political fugitives of twenty nine team and former georgian president Mikheil Saakashvili faces possible extradition to his home country from his new country ukraine ill ask him if hes prepared for life behind bars and later ill talk to the somali refugee turned u. S. Politician about life in trumps america. Really thanks for joining me up front you were twice as president of georgia and govern there for nine years and yet youre now a wanted man in georgia youve gone from president to fugitive how does it feel. I mean ive finished my president ial tour. With quite the. Reverend well we you know georgia has been the most. Formation case in this part of the world but then we had the government out there peaceful transition of course there were peaceful transition in this region which from the very beginning said our main one of main goals is to indict Second Street going no matter what so in the end they said let us look for at least something a plan and they. Gave me a sentence for a president ial pardon for pardoning prisoners well thats the only case in more than a world where president had been tried not for corruption not for other abuses but for right hold on pardon although it was in the pardon it was the cover up that they alleged was associated with the pardon but just for the benefit of our global audience you could face up to eleven years in prison in georgia for multiple charges dating about your presidency there including abuse of power youve already been sentenced to three years behind bars earlier this week an Appeals Court in ukraine rejected your request for protection against extradition to georgia youre in ukraine right now it does look like youre on your way to prison doesnt it regardless of what how how accurate you think the charges are i have to say nobody in georgia is expecting the georgian government despite their formal and nels meant are very scared that if i ever get extradited to georgia then there will be just wiped out by unhappy populace where we are where their present government is extremely unpopular and i am a creator of more than Georgia State we have very strong support among the people but also when you say you have or you say you have a lot of support amongst the georgian people will come but not a moment before we do just to be clear is it correct to say that as of now as of today this week you are currently a stateless person because you gave up your georgian citizenship in twenty fifteen to pursue a career in politics in ukraine and then last july you were stripped of ukrainian citizenship for allegedly providing false information on your Registration Form so you will know the ukrainian or georgian right now. Is that this person but. In the. Courts and so on going to get bites at the back of course present legal system theres a slim possibility i can do that because the president certainly can control the courts and or humans are very very important but you have to when there is you had this big crowd you mentioned the president you had this big round with president poroshenko of ukraine who is a former friend and ally of yours but just on this issue of you being in ukraine youre sitting in front of a ukrainian flag what made you a former president of one country georgia move to another country ukraine and try and become Prime Minister of that country many would say thats pretty unpatriotic of a former president of georgia to do first of all there is sort of pressed him on the there was such great historic figure was president the leader of five american countries but on the other hand if ukraine fails if ukraine breaks up if Russia Ukraine the georgists which is ten times smaller will just might disappear from the map thats one big motivation i have second i already said spent thirteen years of my adult life in ukraine been not only a participant of two ukraine and i dont ukraine revolutions or uprisings i was one of their organizers or group first my done so ive been heavily invested emotionally in ukraine and i have strong links with this country and also. People and you say you have as you say you have strong links with the country but ukrainians dont seem to support your poll last december by the International Republican institute showed that seventy five percent of ukrainians three out of four people in that country how do they somewhat whole very unfavorable view of you want to just move on and let more viable popular candidates run for office in ukraine you know popular look look look i mean first of all presence of ukraine according to sample is even more unpopular second if you look at the poll numbers every politician is doing rather bad. Thats the thats the political crisis in this country that basically the entire Political Class is hate your policy was appalling. One percent at the end of last year Ukrainian Party the movement of new forces no one puts a different president saakashvili on. Between one and seven and eight percent depending on the polls their current president s party is not much better either the problem is that our political spectrum needs to reshuffle and needs to be changed and thats exactly what were trying to stand up for the idea of modernized democratic european crain with open economy color guards free of corruption because corruption is killing the economy and if youre a condom is being you. Will just disappear or a whole entire region will become and you said earlier in the interview that you said earlier in the interview that the criminal charges against you in georgia oral politically motivated theyre made up and you also Face Criminal Charges in ukraine where you are right now in fact you were supposed to come to a studio to do this interview but i believe you were so worried about being arrested weve had to do this via skype isnt it a problem for you that wherever you go for the georgia ukraine youre being accused of crimes the ukrainians dont want to arrest me to just try me i told them if you want to try me try me because there is no evidence of any crime so call me you know they dont want to try me they want to expel me from the country they want to get rid of me and thats entirely different game and there is no way they want to get through it will mean is that because they dont have a real case against me because i really. Crossed the all the guards that want for plunder to come to the country as a profession of the wealthiest country in europe because of resources and there right now its poorest country in europe to do what g. D. P. Was because someone oligarchs whole hostages the entire wealth of the country and their whole goal so there i am there and they regard me as their main enemy so you say you are the enemy of the all agog and yet you quit as governor of the corruption ridden odessa region in southern ukraine after just eighteen months and twenty sixteen without really making any dent in reducing that corruption or going after that oligarchy and in fact back in georgia one of the main charges against you relates to massive embezzlement of public funds by you. Or wait a minute lets go to george in charge not public funds but president ial office expresses the fact that they can fight any personal benefit from me no personal accounts no personal wealth which is extremely rare in this region where everybody still like everybody else and we were the only case where absolute president had zero i can with the same amount of wealth or whatever essence of left with the same ones ive never been reach and im not rich no i mean a core and then i would be for president so if you all so innocent why not go back to georgia and make the case to your make it to me in a court in your own foreign country would you run for nine years. It was European Court of human rights york they used preliminary detention for the purpose of and former Mikhail Saakashvili do you know how old it is to hear you quoting the e. C. H. R. Against your own countrys court system when you were president for nine years they criticize you and the court system you locked up hundreds of people and you did have a problem with the Georgian Court system then. You looked up your own defense minister on charges of Money Laundering extortion and abuse of power and your court never supported this case and supported the government first or second yes im proud that we locked up corrupt officials or my own government when i became president the country was absolutely corrupt and it was a failed state when i finished my presidency stayed but it went up eleven times economy went up four times georgia became the best place to do business in the world georgia is number eight sixteen in terms of Economic Freedom index when you with respect thats nothing to do with what i asked about the judicial system and its all about transparency its all about government its all about the legal system in fact our judiciary is not ideal and right now being controlled controlled control was the biggest private goal of shareholder oppression gus brooks with a clear goal to jail me so the fact is that he had clear goal to put me in pretty limited attention of course many years we document trying me because this whole trial and i understand your argument all im asking is do you understand anyone watching this interview might find it odd that when youre accused of corruption by a Georgian Court you say its all biased but when you accuse others of corruption you look them up and you were criticized by human Rights Groups earlier the United States state Department Said the charges were biased you know your opinion its the same consulate they also criticize your arrests of people you were criticised by the e. C. H r n twenty eleven when you were president you were criticized by Human Rights Watch you were criticized by canadian various. So what if we put him into a hypocrite so wont or. Dont accept this thats what many would say looking at the double standard. Should select their words more carefully because world bank wrote the loan wrote the book when said that the only case of successful transformational world work in the georgia was world number one performer reformist country ok under the im not ive been questioned you told me a lot of people we locked up criminals georgia that was one of the most criminal in the world you say you long to work out you say you locked up criminals you say you locked up the criminals right and i see gee the International Crisis group said they were worried about your increasingly authoritarian behavior Human Rights Watch said your Government Forces use violent Excessive Force to disperse Peaceful Demonstrations in the capital the International Committee to protect journalists pointed out you shut down two Television Channels these are not all criminals because i could really or not and there was one really went because they were going to influence money and there. Are of course were not a deal and we couldnt have turned georgia into a liberal democracy but nonexisting country was trying to do the best for example in eurasia no country no country Great National so well in one years time and this is a well known fact thats why i was you know why did you create thats why we feel strong support among the best young people among young reporters among well educated ukraine as well as georgia thats how if you look you mention that i mean putin youre best known in the west in the wider world for being president of georgia in two thousand and eight when your then country went to war with russia and in just five days nearly a thousand people died more than one hundred thousand people were displaced an exhaustive one thousand page report commissioned by the European Union published in two thousand and nine ultimately blamed georgia they blamed you not russia will putin for having started that war many would say therefore you have blood on your hands. Told to look they never bloom doesnt especially not in iraq what they said is that Russian Troops were first to enter georgian territory and indeed our military response to other countries troops entering my territory our territory was regarded with talk of war with respect to the law they didnt say that a little let me ive got the report quotes here they said it was georgia this is the diplomat who led the investigation it was georgia which triggered off the war when attacked in South Ossetia with heavy artillery it could not be verified that russia was on the verge of a major attack as you claimed thats what the report said. Before read it very carefully they said Russian Troops where we come from there all of the georgian territory and then what youre court is well but when psycho is well the quote says it was georgia which triggered off the war thats you you triggered a war that killed almost a thousand people already enter it when they enter your response i would see that any president who doesnt respond to a foreign army is a traitor and a president who doesnt use military force when you are being get there he said the report says you overplayed your hand and you acted in the heat of the moment with heavy artillery or blood sake hundred times smaller country was invaded by a hundred times bigger. Enemy we were attacked one by two hundred russian planes we were attacked by hundreds of people army and you didnt want us to human. In the im not mean im quoting that easy im quoting an evil Commission Report which says open hostilities began with a large scale georgian military operation the question is whether it was justifiable and the International Law it was not says the report is not my words because i was really just about an independent report commissioned by the e. U. And we have all are well meaning that we want one expert i mean several several as well on that we were responding and sometimes it is also people who like to blame the weekend when you dont want to say well we can behaviors well im sorry we were. Leave the swiss diplomat who led the investigation was biased against georgia i believe that the facts are very stubborn we werent there we were attacked you cannot be blamed for being attacked we were attacked and this is the fact of life we wish to protect our summer to they went towards our capital they couldnt get to our capital because the United States intervened because our army was here or because six president leaders of European Countries came and stood under the russian bombardments we dollar people in this is just to be clear they are their country just a big no were very just a big let no one on this show or in this interview is defending the russians or putin and the report criticizes russia very heavily youre right about that but it does say that you started the war in defiance of International Law you can reject that conclusion but thats what the report says dont shoot the messenger i would say that it has been forms and then someone said we wait initial im sort of but Im International or i mean you read slower ok right now just before we finish right now you have neither ukrainian nor georgian citizenship so whats next for you because i can tell you where youre going to be a year from now two years from now ill be fighting together with people of ukraine and georgia against. Europe or liberation of our country from russian then a Missile Program hostile armies but as well as from domestic oligarchs and corrupt elements that seize power in our countries and our prospects for our population i think ukraine will become superpower if europe and georgia will be again once again be shining example of success and the reports worldwide as it was under my bed because i really thank you for joining me on that front. Hers is a remarkable journey from a refugee camp in africa to a state legislature in the United States in twenty sixteen ilhan or more became the countrys first elected somali american lawmaker last year Time Magazine put her on the front cover calling one of the women who are changing the world so does the future of the u. S. Look more like her or trump she joins me now in one of our thanks for coming on up front you were elected aged just thirty three to the minnesota house of representatives in november twenty sixth scene. That was of course the same in the donald trump was elected president of the us how did you feel that night was a happy night for you as a bit of both. I think was bittersweet i joked with my Campaign Staff and Campaign Supporters that we stayed a little too long at our party. Because we are is a lot of crying and a lot of people who were upset but when the reporters asked me how i was feeling i told them that i was actually optimistic and hopeful because i believed that this was going to be the awakening of our nation people were going to. Walk a walk in from their complacency and we were actually going to get to work in not only resisting but reshaping and restoring this countrys promise and within just a few days of taking Office President brought in his infamous travel ban the muslim by. Not just a muslim immigrant to the United States youre a former muslim or a few g. Whos from one of the countries on the banned list somalia so do you think President Trump doesnt want people like you in the country because he says its not personal its national security. I mean i think you know if if if we were really being honest about what could be masquerade as. National security issue we know that no one from any of these countries is ever posed a threat within this country and so we know that for for him and his supporters this is just political football and theyre using. Our communities and people who look like me as as leverage to talk about him and his supporters more than a Million People in your state of minnesota voted for trump you only lost upstate i think by a percentage point and the horse do you feel cut off disconnected from a lot of your own constituents who clearly dont see trumps islamophobia immigrant rhetoric as disqualifying i mean i think what we are seeing in minnesota is people actually. Coming to terms with the kind of rhetoric that the thought was just that rhetoric. Now actually becoming policy i dont think a lot of minutes so and sent a lot of the people in this country actually thought that he would implement the food it because there was that economic anxiety they believed this guy was going to be part of negotiating this country into a better election alecs situation you with economic cultural racial anxiety yes i dont feel the love of a try i dont think a lot of people understood that the what the ones the people that he was talking about the policies that he was talking about on the campaign trail were going to have an effect on on the members of their community the people that they have grown to appreciate to be part of their communities when you hear reports of your president referring to countries in africa including your own country of birth somalia. Whole country do you think that makes him a racist is donald trump a racist in your view. I mean i think there isnt a debate about whether. Trump is a racist i think he he he fits into every every ism. What is important is for people to actually understand the implication. Of those kind of descriptions that he attaches to countries. In africa in he in el salvador when we are having a conversation about what will ultimately make our country safe it is about showing strong and principled leadership its about. Being the country that has been known that to foster open an Inclusive Society where you so theres no debate about whether tromso race is a lot of people would agree with you or not and in fact theres been an explosion in the number of muslim far right White Nationalist groups in the u. S. Over the past couple of years your own state of minnesota experience a Record Number of muslim incidents in twenty sixteen you yourself i believe just a few weeks after election victory i think got a cab driver called you filthy and threatened to remove you his job how much do you hold trump on the rise of trump responsible for this explosion of u. S. Islamophobia. Oh i would actually come very short of holding them exclusively responsible for for their rights i think when you demonize. And the humanize it is easy for people to to to to commit acts of violence against those those individuals because they no longer see them as as a person as someone who who has feelings who is worthy of respect and i think that is where we are moving away from the idea that we are supposed to be a welcoming nation a lot of conservatives in particular would say that the rise in islamophobia is a result of hate but of fear a legitimate fear of quote unquote jihad is terrorism whether its for sunburn a do you know with a recent truck attack in new york what do you say to them. I would say our country should be more fearful. Of white man across our country because they are actually causing most of the deaths within this country and so if fear was the driving force of policies to keep america safe americans safe inside of this country we should be profiling monitoring. And creating policies to fight the radicalization of wait men but most of the funding of attention even on the obama obviously went towards muslim communities one of those communities in minnesota the Somali American Community in minnesota where i think over the past few years more than twenty young somali americans have left to go and fight for. One of these quote unquote jihad is groups abroad thats a real threat obviously no ones pretending its not a threat so what do you do about it but i mean i think like i said the focus of our. Policies should should be about keeping americans safe keeping us domestically cif and and where we actually find a solution is looking at our Foreign Policy looking at how we are engaging with. The members of these communities and the kind of rhetoric like that is being spewed out of Leaders Within our city halls within our state capitals and within our nations capitol some would say thats true there are some really bad rhetoric coming from politicians Security Leaders but also a lot about rhetoric coming from Muslim Community leaders but circular. I think. Both of those statements could be true and i hate and i think you know it just goes to show what happens when you have a segment within communities that are using fear and hate to more belies their base and it is it is important for us to actually have a conversation about what kind of communities we are trying to build and what this nation actually stands for in an interview last year you said your campaign for state office was about more than knew it was about shifting quote the narrative about what is possible for those outside of the u. S. We have a global audience watching who look at the current us president maybe think he defines to us his anti immigrant minority anti muslim sentiment do you see you all story as a kind of counternarrative to that or you personally the un to trump what i represent is is is an america that still allows people to fulfill that American Dream that you can come here at the age of twelve only knowing two phrases in english have the opportunity to put yourself through school and all timid lead to feed the forty four year income pent to win. A seat at the table now only representing people that look like you but a district that has a seventy percent white population what i wanted people to know throughout my election was that this dream isnt closed off to people that the idea that a person of color or women could only win and run in districts that looked like them. Was was was something that we needed to move away from a lot of money thanks for joining me on that front thank you thats our show outfront will be back next week. Well if we cannot have palestina my government was suddenly not allowed britain to control the french palestine would be an outrage but then we need to find another solution before we come to blows more than a century ago britain and france made a secret deal that would influence the shape of the middle east for more than a century to come and so. Now we can durham a. Psych speak out lines in the sand at this time on aljazeera. The nature news as it breaks the us cut the funding has cemented the feeling here that the u. S. Is now part of the problem and has picked the israeli side with detailed coverage of the Nigerian Government insists negotiations are ongoing to secure the release of the girls and hundreds of others. From around the world three decades on chileans are still thinking about abuses but this time those committed by the church. The scene for us whether online. That peace is possible but it never happens not because the situation is complicated but because no one cares or if you join us on sat there are people choosing between medication and eating this is a dialogue i want to get in one more comment because this is someone whos. Close to the story join the global conversation at this time on al jazeera. Rising from the ruins iraq seeks billions of dollars to rebuild after being devastated by. The law and. Also coming up the u. S. Defense secretary says some syrian fighters it backs may have joined fellow kurds to fight

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