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Teachers and bureaucrats have been dismissed as part of turkeys emergency rule decree accused of acting against National Security in total one hundred fifty thousand have been dismissed or suspended from their jobs since the failed coup in july last year theres that is just as if you can inside stories up next on news after that. As the year winds down donald trump describes moscow as a threat to accuses washington of aggression to global powers on a slippery path to more tension in two thousand and eighteen where does it leave the rest of the world this is inside story. Well welcome to the show im sam is a than now the trumpet ministration kicked off two thousand and seventeen with hope for better relations with russia but the year ends with hardening rhetoric between two of the worlds most influential powers washington is now taking a tougher stance on moscow what it calls the stabilizing activities just this week donald trump announced the United States will give you a crane and hans defensive capabilities to fight pro russian separatists in other words weapons Vladimir Putins response a warning that little only increased the use of force and use the same tone in outlining how russia will move into two thousand and eighteen. The numbers and. Im convinced that we must develop the mechanisms of democracy and fully explore the potential of the civic activity that is laid down in our constitution and encourage competition competition of ideas and approaches to solve an issue to treat with respect constructive and responsible opposition and to be such an opposition means not only to argue with the authorities and blame them for all moral center we know ourselves all the problems the country confronts but to be responsible means to have a Clear Program of constructive actions. Trump hasnt shied away either announcing his new National Security strategy he named china and russia as the primary threats to u. S. Economic dominance we also face rival powers russia and china that seek to challenge american influence values and wealth we will attempt to build a Great Partnership with those and other countries but in a manner that always protects our National Interest well as trump nears one full year in the white house russia has never been far away from his presidency on both domestic and global level at home that is the Ongoing Investigation into moscows interference in the two thousand and sixteen election and an increase in cyber activities which russia denies several white house Staff Members have resigned the two countries are not as sides in the war in syria the u. S. Is backing the Syrian Democratic forces while russia supports Bashar Al Assads government north koreas missile test prompted a stream of fiery tweets from trump and sanctions against pyongyang russia is one of north koreas main trading partners and its called for calm and talks. Lets bring in our panel then joining us from moscow we have nicholas socalled a Foreign Policy analyst at the Russian International Affairs Council in alexandria virginia via skype Lawrence Korb a former assistant secretary of defense and senior fellow at the center for American Progress and in nairobi not chatty and when any and International Relations expert at the United States International University welcome to you all if i could start with nicholas so you think russian u. S. Relations have turned something of a corner in the last few days and is this where were heading in two thousand and eighteen. Well first of all good afternoon or i dont think that there was something unexpected we were actually prepared to see this kind of Development Donald Trump was acting more aggressively each month because the year began with an attack against iran to air base in syria then we have different accusations about russia supporting the Syrian Government about russia supporting the use of chemical weapons so that was the case in next we heard more about the the ukraine and now were facing the problem of little weapons coming from the u. S. To the ukraine so well it was obvious to us that dont trump will do his best to show that russia is not a friend of his administration because if all his steps are dictated by domestic politics and he is ready to do anything including creating more tension with russia in order to power well at least for now it actually he even his decision to support. To declare jerusalem as well to support the idea that jerusalem is the capital of israel was also dictated from at least from our point of view was dictated by. Mystic considerations in order to get more support from the congress so we were prepared for this kind of development and i dont see in. Surprise in that it well of course there were hopes there were there were hopes when he came to power there were hopes that relations will improve we thought that mr trump will be easier to deal we have or than the Democratic Administration because he seemed to be a pragmatist and mr putin is also a pragmatist so to pragmatists going or we can always make a deal but now we see that he is so much. Concerned with his domestic problem is there. Simply unable to do any of the shadowing the situation from the on that note of hopes lawrence and one point in time the u. S. President was praising let him near hootin as a very smart person in the russian leader as late as october the fourth still sounded somewhat hopeful of better relations with the u. S. Saying his country had quote many friends in america what happened was it all down to domestic american politics. I dont think it was domestic politics i think it was basically his National Security team general madison the pentagon secretary tillerson general mcmaster who is his National Security advisor have pointed out to him that russia and putin are taking advantage of the president by pushing their agenda for example has been mentioned in and in syria they show no sign of backing off in ukraine and even with north korea while theyre voting for the sanctions theyre not really enforcing them to the extent that the United States would live now one of the problems with President Trump is he will say one thing and then and basically he what they his stamp will put out a strategy thats completely different if you read that strategy that he put out you know earlier about a week ago basically its like something president bush or president obama could have done but basically then if you read the speech he gave ahead of time it doesnt does doesnt add up i think personally he feels that he can establish a relationship with president putin but in International Politics is just not personalities its really the interests of the of the countries that. That town and in his strategy which you read before he talked about russia as an economic threat like china russia is not there condi is declining to ply so the ball is not what it used to be so theyre having you know economic problems china obviously is an economic a competitor russia is trying to reassert its. Basically its role in europe that declined to the collapse of the soviet union and the latest thing. What happened here we fired russian submarines are out messing with the Internet Connections between the United States and europe all right so perhaps any sort of hope at the early part of the trump an illustration for better relations with russia that seems to be dissipating much area where does this leave the rest of the world does that mean in two thousand and eighteen we can expect a rise in global tensions. Well yes better a few more confrontations between the United States and russia but not so much as to blow up into a war sort of thing but tensions are likely to increase for one no degree with the other panelists it appears that prompt is prison hes cup deve of domestic politics and when the reasons he appears to be so erratic and incomplete isnt his counterpart putting when he said he would like to get along with appears to be very focused as a target and systematic about the eagles about doing what you want to do so the contrast in the appearing on this is that the u. S. Is declining because it is the logic and because the president is a cup give of domestic politics do you think if i come back to lawrence on that point the trumpet ministration then Going Forward is going to have a hard time. To come back to show he say trumps early hopeful position of better relations with russia got the Ongoing Investigation muller investigation he got the suspicions and accusations of collusion with russia and hes lost a few people within the administration who are so we say more pro better relations with russia people. Theres no doubt about it somebody like steve bannon for example is no longer in the administration he doesnt get the support even from the Republican Party remember they put very tough sanctions on russia he didnt like but he signed the bill anyway because they are concerned about the russian interference in the election whether or not it led to trump winning that is not the issue the issue is they they got involved theyre also violating the intermediate Nuclear Forces agreement which is an arms control agreement with both sides pledged to get rid of intermediate weapons but theyre violating not. And thats going to make it tough to extend the new start a new start agreement trumps military budget is going nowhere increase our Nuclear Weapons capability house talked about hes very surprised that weve made all those cuts over the years so basically i think whats happened is that. Political realities have trumped if you will the personal relationship that he thought that he could have with president putin not recognizing not you know the nations have interests not just personalities. And they. Have the u. S. Announced as im sure you were away it was sending heavy armaments to ukraine for the first time weve heard some russian officials saying well that shows that washington is no longer interested in maintaining talks and dialogue over ukraine what do you expect will be the russian response to that shall we say at least the response from pro russia rebels in the donbass region do you see a pick up in conflict yes. Yes thats what i was actually. Willing to talk about because while syria is is a certain problem but the main problem next year will be in the ukraine even now we can see that the fighting is escalating already the situation i want you mean by the what all of us toward you expect i mean its already is a problem how bad do you expect to go x i x. Expect another round of hostilities and probably more fighting in this region very very soon because the supplies the american supplies of heavy weaponry of little weaponry will certainly embolden the government in kiev and these people are clearly inclined to read ok this is an interesting point that i want to take that while you have a very interesting thought hang on hang on a second let me bring law in san precisely on that point lawrence do you think the trumpet ministration has decided to try and resolve the ukraine issue militarily because what were hearing from nicholl is exactly the still the sentiment thats being reflected from people officials in the Russian Parliament well i think what the trumpet ministration has decided as they are not going to allow russia to push more into Eastern Ukraine obviously theyre not going to try and kick the russians from crimea and i think theyve basically drawn a line and this is something the congress has wanted to do for a while even the Republican Congress president obama resist this but President Trump now as i say given people like general mattis this is something he s. Support but work for russia for for quite a while so basically theyre drawing a line in there saying that they will not allow any further incursions into into ukraine after crimea the russians may have interpreted the fact that we didnt arm the. Eastern ukrainians there for quite a while that they could continue to reform and instability this is not an area but i think this is and if you do this going to be a heavy price i won the match i do think the next global milestone to watch out for is what happens in the u. S. Congress in february in terms of that sanctions decision. What congress does well have a big effect on whatever policies donald trump wants to adopt and the rest of the world is watching from far as to what is going on the confrontations over ukraine interesting to watch. And no diff who are all between two big powers on whose neighborhood should be infiltrated by that kind of thing so the sanctions if they come how much effect will there. Have to be compared with what has happened before dissensions stop something from being done if a particular countries is determined to do whatever it is that it is want to do and short of exchanging big big bombs sanctions may not deter as expected they will have a defect but they may not have that big a deterrence effect so or if it doesnt have a terence a fag and they struggle then continues how much concern is that looking outside of the capitals of washington and moscow. Well the i think the concern out is who are they to affect these two countries policy one in other areas to what extent would the confrontations affect the way they related countries in africa. How they relate to countries in asia or in not an america that in its own may be of interest because it might and and that is the assumption which area is it is easy going to come a reality in two thousand and eighteen that well see a pick up in tension that this sort of tension be played out in other areas whether its africa or asia if you know it is likely if these tensions keep on building up i think ukraine is just a sideshow there may be bigger confrontations we know that the russians are interested in moving out of the areas that they have been confined. They are making inroads even in north africa we know that. The other did president put in who was president bashir and bashir was very clear telling the put in please help us come and protectors of marriage and so we dont know how much of that will be played up and then if the americans are to react to that kind of discussion between sudan and russia or between one faction of the Libyan Government and the russians how it will be played out in other places is something that we are interested in watching. Might have an effect one has times i want is syria we took advantage of and wondering nicholai on thursday the Us Defense Department accused russian planes of deliberately failing to d conflict i think is the term were using the conflict the airspace over syria of the u. S. Planes intercepted russian planes putins envoy also for syria that they called on the u. S. To leave the country are we going to see more tension between those two powers. In syria when it comes to Syrian Affairs well more tension is likely we were on the bring or the nod around of tension several months ago or not not not even several months ago just about one and a half months ago when there was intensive fighting in their own sword but the problem was not about their own it was about the oil field or fields that are situated in to the east of there us or so there is clear competition between the government in damascus and the Syrian Democratic forces which are mostly made of so where does that leave the prospects for peace in syria in two thousand and eighteen then. The prospect well there we have very contradiction contradicting trounce on the one hand we still hope to have a new round of negotiations leading us to geneva and probably a Peace Agreement because we have weekly russia at least she used some understanding with the saudis we have an understanding with the turks so with many regional players but you for donald trump makes his position towards syria more tough in order to please the congress then well have well be in trouble we might see even ask where you might see even incidents involving russian and u. S. Planes or military so this is the it will be a very Bad Development so we we have very contradictory trends now and hopefully hopefully we will have more negotiations on another area perhaps to want to go or lawrence of course is north korea there are some common interests between washington and moscow lawrence when it comes to north korea but on december the sixteenth interesting lead china russia concluded joint drills and if you listen to some of the former military commanders of the chinese army in their country at least they say it was designed to counter any u. S. Military moves should war break out of the Korean Peninsula or will we see perhaps less can. Sensis emerging between washington on the one hand and perhaps moscow and beijing on the other on the north korean file well i think you saw it this week with the new u. N. Resolution which the North Koreans declared an act of war that russia and china recognize that if you have a confrontation there nobody wins because north korea now has Nuclear Weapons and that they could really create havoc so i think the russians and our and the chinese basically are concerned that the United States might take advantage of that and see if you dont buy at the Korean Peninsula with this i know is not is not the case but they they basically dont want to see north korea get to a point where you could lead to an Accidental Nuclear war President Trump has not helped because he is undermined his own secretary of state who wanted to negotiate with the North Koreans and i think most members of the even the congress feel that thats the only way to solve this thing is through some sort of on the negotiations in which the North Koreans agreed to freeze their nuClear Program theyre not going to get rid of them in return for the United States and south korea having fewer exercises there each year but hopefully this is one area where the russian chinese and the United States can Work Together to deal with the situation which if it gets out of hand nobody wins talking about working together when you listen to some of the strategy being outlined by Vladimir Putin nicolay the russian president talked about the need to focus on the further developing military technology do you think that this is going to be a focus of how russia now calculates its future relationship with america counting more on on. How to outmaneuver the u. S. Through military Technology Rather than counting on any high hopes for better cooperation well yes and no i mean that now its clear it became clear to the russian leadership that in the near future we cannot really expect any equal. Fram department ship with the us so basically now russia is preparing for a kind of confrontation which will not be as tense as we used to have during the cold war but still. It became clear what that without Strong Military you cant. Be a global power we have the example of the e. U. Which is very strong economically but weak militarily and cannot influence events even in the in its neighborhood like in the middle east so that will be the case and we will see more military build up Russian Military is actually russian army your air force and navy are in the process of more or of buying more new and sophisticated weaponry so if you can stop this now but steal it it is only an attempt on behalf of the russian leadership to be treated as an equal partner all you see the main ambition of mr putin is only to make the u. S. Respect russias National Interest in the world and to acknowledge this National Interest because still we have a feeling that russia is treated as someone. Else as someone inferior as a as an inferior country but this is not the case at least from the point of view. And thats why. Thats where this military buildup comes from ok so military buildup macharia can russia really realistically speaking it doesnt have the sort of budget does it that the americans have at their disposal its military technology isnt on the same level as the u. S. Cant really challenge the u. S. Position globally which underwrites much of the International Order that we know whether its economics or International Shipping and so on and so forth which many nations count on. Its really a matter of perception because the military buildup is meant to increase the level of dignity that a country feels it has to avoid being bullied by us and therefore feel as if it is safe because with ability to appear to we week that weakness invades bulling and which also is going to diversity into the National Economy and that will fill the of the people so there is that desire to be seen to be on a par with everybody else and if i may comment on that nuclear feeling it the pattern has been from the time the u. S. Had them or no police of Nuclear Atomic power to stop everybody else from having it. And saw the others have just been eaten into a lot more nobody and now you have the nuclear club trying to stop another one from becoming a new a member of the club and therefore the other neutral in that it is now to have to do it in order to avoid being bullied by the others as for the u. S. And russia and then the chinese from korea the russians under jamies border north korea rightly nothing happens were theyll get direct impact we are out of time so well have to leave it there lets thank our guests Nikolai Lawrence and of course macharia and thank you to you for watching you can see the show again any time by visiting our website aljazeera dot com of further discussion head over to our Facebook Page thats facebook dot com forward slash a. J. Inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter our handle there is act a. J. Inside story from me sam is a than an alternate here for now he spoke by. Were living through a technological revolution but all the machines taking over a piece of machinery goes wrong is there a chain of this to question through which we can bring an ecosystem to bear Oxford University professor of Machine Learning Steven Roberts talks to all disease at this time. 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