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Compete individually but only under a neutral flag and if they can prove that theyre clean the president of the Russian Olympic Committee has also been suspended the south korean city appealing chank in february will host the winter a little at those where the headlines here on aljazeera board use in thirty minutes we continue with inside story had laura castro with us. Yemens ousted president was known for political cunning and shifting loyalties but on monday time ran out finally up to. How will his death impact the escalating conflict and the worlds worst humanitarian crisis this is inside story. Was. Hello and welcome to the program im laura caro even by yemens standards the days leading up to the death of Ali Abdullah Saleh were tough balance and confusing on saturday the ousted president turned on the who the rebels had been backing for the past several give is he called for dialogue with saudi arabia once his patron more recently his enemy on monday silos rebel allies ambushed and killed him as deaf only as the volatility surrounding a war that appears to have no end in sight and a humanitarian crisis often described as the worlds worst well get to our guests in just a moment but first this report from inches tayyab. Yes the killing. Has plunged yemen into even more uncertainty the ousted president would be in a dominant Political Force for over three decades was killed in an attack led by who the fighters on monday had been in an alliance with the iranian backed rebels for more than two years and his death sparked intense fighting on the streets of the capital sanaa. The clashes were ongoing the entire night until the morning if someone stepped out into the street or fled they would have a bullet hit the mean the head chest or body. And an easy calm has returned to the city which salis forces and the who these jointly controlled and fought against the Saudi Led Coalition which supports the internationally recognized government led by months were hardy but the partnership collapsed last week leading to major confrontations after days of running street battles salah announced he was ready for dialogue with the Saudi Led Coalition if it ended its blockade of yemens ports and airports and allowed for more humanitarian aid shortly afterwards he was dead in response heidi has urged yemenis to rise against the who forces laser. And i call upon all of you with an open heart and a strong will to turn the new page and to get rid of such a nightmare lets put our hands together to end the control of these criminal gangs and to both a new united yemen. And the who pushed out toddies government in january two thousand and fifteen and set up their own administration prompting the saudi led campaign against them since then the country has been split between the who the rebels in the north adis administration in the south and forces loyal to saleh. His death could mark a turning point and the conflict getting worse a conflict which has already killed nearly ten thousand people but yemen to the brink of mass starvation and triggered what the unite. Nations has called the worlds worst humanitarian crisis we remind all parties to the conflict that deliberate attacks against civilians and against civilian and medical infrastructure or clear violations of International Humanitarian law may constitute war crimes. A former military officer became president of north yemen in one thousand nine hundred Seventy Eight after a coup and in one nine hundred ninety when the north and south reunited he was elected as the first president of the newly unified country he was ousted in two thousand and twelve jury in the arab spring uprising that managed to stay in the country and wielded considerable power behind the scenes saleh once like in his involvement in yemeni politics is dancing on the head of snakes and while its not yet clear who will succeed him or what his death will mean for the fighting on the ground or the future of yemen one thing appears certain this nearly three year war is unlikely to come to an end anytime soon. Aljazeera. Ok lets bring in our guests now and joining me here on set we have no. Hes a visiting fellow at Brookings Doha Center and found no on skype we have the Un Resident Coordinator Jamie Mcgoldrick and in london retired Jordanian Air force general mamoun know war welcome all of you thanks for being here on inside story jamie first to you whats the situation there in santa some twenty four hours after the death of salah well theres a great deal of uncertainty about what is actually happening. In the streets silex almost like normal except less people less cars but theres a lot of things happening as normal what we havent gotten as much in the military activity except occasionally we have some airstrikes and suggest that their own four oclock we had a lot of. Strikes and since then its gone quite quiet and what were trying to do right now is to go on the streets and see if we can do with the dead bodies and see if we can get people to the hospital to start treatment for the over four hundred people injured in the last like this how easy is it to move aid around the city and get help to people who need it. Well its ok we really know that the usual situation we dont see much of their change in terms of checkpoints or blockages ok theres a lot of debris a lot of the broken buildings a lot of damage caused by the fighting over five days the moving to the city and shops are starting to come back to life again but our biggest concern is that people get water that get people to safety and get people medical treatment if required means a lot of children caught up in the city telephone or fight these really for office and intensive airstrikes shelling Ground Fighting and its been quite intense for the b. B. C. In many areas of the city which are very congested with civilian populations i mean to me i was just mentioning that the the as strikes that have been hitting the city i mean just any as of Tuesday Morning we had reports of saudi planes bombing the president ial palace for the first time does that mark an escalation in that particular fighting i think the whats happened really is the. He thought that by splitting with the who theory works for to his advantage. The same thing the collimation thought that. They rely on solid dreams sort of to get this to isolate the rabble did really backfire on them whats happening now by using air power and bombing the city would not do any effect except killing civilians in actual fact. The houthi control the main most of. The control the resources the control the finance. Would have been. I cant say. Its ruled for to. Be difficult to predict. You know. So its very hard to know whats going to happen later. But the balance of power on the ground i think will remain as is ok in the future who see will might progress towards the south its very hard to beat the who see. Very tough. Opponent to the colonization also so. I mean do you need an International Interference really to stop and freeze this war ok well well get to that just a little later in our discussion just for a moment now just how strong a whole do things have on sun now on the capital well i mean we know that ever since their takeover of the capital in september two thousand and fourteen the hope is of managed to gain quite a to gain quite a bit of ground not just in sanaa but in other parts of yemen and so certainly in the last almost three years of this war now the whole things have they have gained quite a bit of control that said you know it has been three years almost three years and there has there need to know neither side has been winning this war a great deal you know i he mongers human cost political and Economic Cost as well but neither side has been winning so. You know its unclear right now whos really in control i mean theyre celebrating the death of sylar we can see thousands of them out on the streets i think on the airport rows there theyre having a victory celebration but in reality having the who feels just lost half their power in losing the salah forces well i mean actually the the the alliance between the host these and saleh and his loyalists was quite weak in fact it was it was it was really a Tactical Alliance i think you know the only unifying factor really was that they were both they were both against her only as president but other than that i mean you know lets not forget they were sworn enemies for the longest time they fought wars against each other and so it was nothing more than than than a Tactical Alliance and perhaps now in retrospect a major miscalculation on both parts jamie weve got some solace funeral jus do we expect some tension to be surrounding that because the moment does feel that the two sides are giving each other space in the city but how long is that going to last. Well i dont know when the funeral is taking place but i would imagine the trying to look here rather than cause it to be something that people can gravitate towards to create problems i think that its probably dont want gatherings of that kind maybe just one type of gatherings as we see today what were worried about is anything you get big numbers and you get the possibility of clashes then you get this is though you follow the casualties that come with that as weve seen over the last five days and in the every time of this all start up with this severe conflict or the work was all based on demonstrations say there was a mosque and we were in case more of that could happen again if you have some similar gatherings of that kind mamma and weve heard from the exiled president handy thing in riyadh but hes been calling on yemenis to unite now against the who things how likely is it that the yemenis are going to answer that call thats very slim the army is divided used to be with had the. Some of them with the houthi also its a tribal politics tribal system what you get in yemen and very hard to control this which alliance so. A lot of support from the army or so on him and. The tribes or so are around the m a around santa so its very difficult to predict the future of this yemen what the need is good leadership i think decent leaders before they were fully corrupt government cetera so thats really played a great impact on yemen politics but. I think you need a good leadership and you need. To unify the people which is very hard also to recruit some of the tribe. Against the zero three but thats want to work in the future. And you can even start seligs to know where to look for that good leadership right now. I dont know thats it depends on where many. People in the region and the International Community to look for a good leader because it doesnt really matter leadership it doesnt really matter. In a crisis we have to have the proper people we have to get this inclusive government we have to lift. The collusion the blockade on this would be also with the cooperation with the o. T. To get back yemen and the people of human medicine food thats all big factor and you need i think you interfere in this matter also now is there anyone who is likely to be able to replace salah both and be able to unify his forces behind him again and take the forces take the fight to the negotiating table i mean just to follow on what the previous guest just said you know it would be nice wouldnt it if they i mean hes could actually choose their own leader and i say this because as we know International Regional and International Actors have always had you know a say in the leadership of yemen you know if we look back six years ago when when the transition agreement was signed in riyadh saleh was guaranteed and his aides were guaranteed immunity from prosecution and his party was granted fifty percent of the power in the transition and the trend the transfer of power to her he was you know i mean as we know was the Vice President saw as Vice President for sixteen years so there wasnt really this genuine transition of leadership and even though he has been referred to as the internationally recognized president president over and over again you know that doesnt really mean very much she doesnt really have very strong support in in yemen hes been outside of the country for a very long time part of the reason that zahra was still able to rally his supporters is that he was physically present in the country now you know on the question of who could replace so i mean this is the major challenge. Right now this is the major question we may be seeing you know certain figures who were working with solid pre two thousand and eleven such as for example Ali Mohsen Ahmar who was the leading military commander when saddam was president we you know weve seen and heard reports about saleh son you know stepping in or his nephew and so on. So it is it is likely i would say that actors such as Saudi Arabian emirates would be pushing those kinds of figures to you know it takes to take on some sort of a leadership role in the meantime then what will the wrong be doing because iran is a back of the who feeds and whats the role they be playing behind the scenes well i mean look with iran you know it there have always been some questions about the extent of irans control over the whole thiis. Certainly you know theres theres some influence there theres an alliance there but we also know that the host is in iran dont necessarily always see eye to eye when the whole things took over in september two thousand and fourteen for example apparently you know iran didnt think that was a good idea but the hope hes went ahead and did that anyway and so its very difficult to say. How iran will react given the fact that we dont even know the extent of the control that they have over the whole fees jamie the u. N. Has been brokering talks between the two sides so if they havent been going very well have a rather broken down it isnt exactly your remit but could you give us an idea of where were at with those talks and how likely it is now that were going to be able to get the hoof eased back to the table given that they really dont put a lot of trust and faith and procedure but i think one of the things is that the tragedy of this is fact there is no political. Process as a result of the war start because of the deep bookshops that was tragic situations and there is no solution to this is no military solution to this crisis illicitly no humanitarian. Ability to cover up the tracks and save lives and livelihoods the task is to massive so theres only a political solution this must be so i know that the u. N. Is still active still trying to bring the parties are unstable but of course what happened yesterday that changes the whole dynamic in many ways and i think it changes the dynamic obviously in some about maybe change the dynamic in the region and i think the un then has to take stock of what has been how can you temper that and i think with every situation like that comes an opportunity and i think its important the International Community tries to work out what this opportunity my thrown up and then try to look at its best sense the support today in the Security Council there will be a discussion on yemen and hopefully it will be some political insight some support thats given to maybe some new energy put into political process which for the mormon in the meantime straight on my mind do you think the International Community can form a never edge over the who things or even sort of offer an olive branch to try to bring them back into the into the discussion because they distrust the u. N. As a broker theyve said in the past that the u. N. Has demanded they get too much ground so if there is as jamie says some sort of opening here what does the u. N. Does in Session Committee have to do. I think you have to work on iran. Because iran. She cant put the pressure on on over three. Otherwise things will not work out this for is a brooks who or. Going to be secretary in a war in the future if the International Community did not interfere. And is a big player. We should consider that they should talk to iran also. To get more pressure on their haughty i say again because its very its a critical element on that. Otherwise we will carry on controlling i think most of yemen in the future if the lid go. What theyre doing right now. Create a big. Was the fixture of the. Hour he was controlling the whole politics in yemen so its very tough now to find a good leadership to come behind. This the get used to that the menace so i think you need to freeze the conflict. And lift the blockade with the cooperation with hooty from their work on the new state structure for yemen i mean they need the help of the world to do that and to the east to. To the crest i dont see no way to win it militarily by coalition or the other player in the ground and what about pressure on saudi you know how i mean theyve got one side youve got to run him out of leverage has over there these as you said is debatable but saudi is a key player theres no denying that what pressure can be put on saudi to a lift the blockade at the u. N. Says is just crippling humanitarian aid getting to people and b. Stopping asterix withdrawing militarily well look i mean yes i think that saudi arabias allies particularly its allies in the west namely the u. K. And the u. S. Need to step up and pressure saudi arabia to lift properly lift the blockade. And and in tandem with that the arms sales need to start in the u. K. And the u. S. Have been. Providing unconditional military support to saudi arabia the u. S. Has been refueling saudi jets and mid air so that they can continue bombing gehman into oblivion so this needs to stop there has already been a lot of pressure within the u. S. And u. K. Governments regarding the legality of these arms sales and so that needs to continue and thats a concern where i mean the high court the u. K. Ruled that it was legal and it should continue just recently right but its under appeal but that pressure still needs to continue despite the fact that unfortunately it hasnt gone anywhere i think that you know sure its you know its a proxy war but its also a yemeni war in the sense that you know yemen has always been a fragmented country theres been the southern succession of movement theres been the whole thing rebellion and north everything in between there is al qaida and so the other thing that really needs to happen is that International Actors such as the us need to sort of step you know its pan out from this obsession with the socalled war on terror remember really look at the root causes of this conflict in trying to figure out how to genuinely resolve it and to me how urgent it is this day to happen weve had the u. N. Warning of widespread famine for about two years now how soon is that likely to happen well i think the callers have mentioned the importance of the blockade i mean there are seven people in this country live in atlanta most existence they dont know where the food comes from we are the Community Left because they have no means themselves and the blockade basically counsel commercial humanitarian supplies and therefore prices go up and people move or people cant afford the big issue even. If you was not in this country because a lot coming in from died would i do seem to support this for smuggling which is not this is the only or this country works and we dont want to be fully functioning in the us were blocked if you dont get the fuel and what will happen is that theyll be a reemergence of color which is affected almost a Million People so we dont get enough you learn to be dont get food and then as time goes on and with the impact of all this happen over the. The last five days and the increased military zation which is going on here i think more and more people will just start to fall into that which is called a Tipping Point and when you start tipping into the zone its very very hard to treat your five hundred thousand kids who are those skeletal creatures you see on television all of the School Country and if we cant get the foodstuffs and the supports of them then were going to have regardless of a political solution and there are just that we dont put the brakes on this route only weve got a real serious problem and this country will not come back easily from this tragedy and the children of the future generation will be taken by starvation were taken by illnesses they shouldnt be getting and were taking by the radicalisation because theres no other option for them but to turn to some of these groups who are very unwell much exploiting the vacuum and then across this country whats it going to take for the world to act is going to take that Tipping Point they can take that very tragic sonari that jamie has just painted for us. I mean the pressure. Got to break and which we see no action. Keeping quite whats going on so we have to move this is the biggest criticism of the world whats happening in yemen. This is located is one freezing the flight. You know stop bombing. By the coalition because this will not the war by bombing these people out so we need the whole International Community to work out on the amman. That remains to be seen whats going to happen in the future now what do you see immediately happening next in yemen well despite the fact that International Actors have played quite of a quite a detrimental role in yemen ironically that you know that they are necessary there like a Necessary Evil if i can say that now of course im talking politically humanitarian organizations have been doing an incredible drug drop saving yemeni lives just to pick up on jamies point about radicalization and my earlier point about you know this obsession with the war on terror if it takes if what it takes is for the u. S. To look at this entirely as you know a counterterrorism strategy well then you know we need to look at the last two years and see how al qaida and other you know external factors have flourished in this atmosphere in this you know concert ongoing conflict in yemen and so if thats what it takes for yemeni lives to matter then so be it ok that we will have to leave our discussion today thank you all very much for joining us jamie gold rick no elder and my mom and abu noah. Thank you too very much for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website zero dot com discussion to go to our Facebook Page thats facebook dot com for slash a. J. Inside story you know so join the conversation on twitter one hundred a. J. Inside story from me on the whole team here and ill. Show it. So. Slightly easier to be out right for that. Live. Shot for you fail to. See if you like kids you are making very pointed remarks whether online the main u. S. Response to drug use and the drug trade over the last fifty years has been criminalized or if you join us on sat. In the morning and says i want to cover the world of darkness this is a dialogue that could be whats leading to some of the confusion online about people saying they dont actually know whats going on join the global conversation at this time on aljazeera i really feel liberated as a journalist was. Getting to the truth as i would thats what his job. The Worlds Largest humanitarian crisis millions caught up in the civil war all just the real world examines the roots of the conflict in yemen and the complex history that drew our country into perpetual time. That is unity all that separation all that the north and the south peace dualisms are part of history. Yemen the north south divide this time. Hello im out in dennis in doha these are the top stories here at aljazeera the repercussions of u. S. President Donald Trumps expected decision to recognize

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