Remove the it is from their position of relative power particularly in the north of the country of course thats always been the case but as you know also martin in the business of political analysis the last thing that should be in ones mind is predictions right so on the basis of analysis of the facts on the ground or the political facts to the as we see them with the right to draw certain scenarios the various scenarios our diplomatic solution and people should learn the lesson that you cannot really just switch certain allegiance around and expect a military solution to bear fruit in yemen because once again likely that they speak albeit falsely about syria there is no military solution in yemen today there is no military solution in yemen today there wasnt yesterday there wasnt the day before yesterday the quicker they learned the lesson the better the better it is. All right it is just after thirty greenwich mean time youre with this is our extended coverage of breaking news from yemen rebel forces have confirmed the death of the ousted president ali abdullah which has significant implications for the country the news of death has been confirmed by television and Radio Networks which are controlled by the his. Media outlets have also been airing pictures of his dead body youre looking at. That has come to us there were earlier reports. Blew up one of sallys houses so far were not entirely clear how he met his end. The ministry of interior statement announces that they have taken over all the positions and strongholds of the treacherous militia in the capital and the surrounding areas as well as other provinces in order to impose security it also announces the killing of the treacherous leader. And his supporters this is after he and his men blockaded the roads and killed civilians in a clear collaboration with the enemy countries of the coalition Duncan Crawford compiled this report looking back at his life. Clung on to power in yemen for more than three decades an old school arab leader who declared only he could hold the country together his legacy is one of corruption and a deeply divided. Forty nine hundred forty two as a young man he joined the army and rose to the rank of colonel before taking part in a coup later saw him become president of what was then north yemen in one hundred years. For the next decade he oversaw fighting with the communist south before eventually uniting yemen in one thousand nine hundred ninety at the soviet union collapsed. The same year iraqs leader Saddam Hussein ordered the invasion of kuwait the Un Security Council yemen voted against the use of force prompting the us to cut off millions in yemeni aid and i thank president for his strong support for fast forward a few years and was again welcomed back by the west after agreeing to take on al qaeda in yemen following an attack on the u. S. Warship cole in two thousand and one american friends and cash but that did little to fix yemens internal problems the shia rebellion in the north and the separatist movement in the south. Always a wily political operator is said to have played off Different Military groups and trying to keep himself in power. But the arab spring in twenty eleven revolutionized the middle east and sallys rule was challenged like never before. Protests against widespread poverty unemployment and corruption became violent and activists accused of using Excessive Force to crush the opposition. He shouted were not like that really those calling for change their trademark is destruction and they are calling for change and for a peaceful Youth Revolution but it is a destructive revolution. Injured in a rocket attack on his compound salai was treated in saudi arabia before returning three months later but physically and politically weaker for once his attempts to negotiate or buy his way out of a crisis failed. With yemen on the brink of civil war gulf countries brokered a deal that saw power transferred to his deputy in return for salaries immunity from prosecution. Ten months of protests ended his thirty three year rule and celebrations began but he left the country with dwindling oil reserves high unemployment and extreme poverty. Although down wasnt out in twenty fourteen he allied with the fees helping the shia muslim fighters take over the capital sana that sparked another civil war. Twenty fifteen a coalition of arab countries led by saudi arabia began a military campaign to restore yemens government which continues now i millions of yemenis are seized by fighting hunger and disease. Is the only man to ever serve as president of a unified yemen and while in power is estimated to have amassed a multibillion dollar fortune. Loved by supporters he was also despised by many yemenis who say his reign was defined by corruption and mismanagement that he leaves behind a country divided and in turmoil. And with me here in the studio is our jazeera senior political analyst and we have Andrea Creagh assistant professor at the defense that is about one of Kings College london welcome to you both but now im starting with you what have we just witnessed its a huge turnaround a major. Changing in the history of yemen i mean look this man i doubt has ruled yemen since nine hundred Seventy Eight for four decades his name has been associated with power politics in yemen so an entire yemeni generation knows only Ali Abdullah Saleh even when he was deposed slash quit a few years ago hear him in the role of an and he stayed there all of an end he insisted on remaining relevant even though that meant the deaths of tens of thousands of yemenis so today we just see the end just like we did and i was you and ive been just talking about this earlier when we look at these images we can only remember another four decades in a different country where a leader died or was killed him alleviating the just like this one might have had that in libya another casualty of the arab spring or of his own. History or decades of repression in yemen as in libya so really a very i must say sad you know view that as it may ending of a man who could have what politics what he was on the up on up after the arab spring allowed him a way out without the humiliation that we see today and dress it seems very much as a this is a direct consequence of his decision to break with a healthy rebel group yes absolutely i agree this is a tectonic shift in any of its history and i would also say this is very similar to what we saw in libya the key aspect here is hes a guy whos similar to gadhafi was able to balance a very Tribal Society was able to balance the very fractured society he was able to integrate various factions that actually dont really get along now if you take this one out of the equation weve seen that in libya for example you take a duffy out of the equation as hated as he was he was able to keep it together that would take him out of the equation in. Were going back to and lets not make any mistake he wasnt the way he was not the president but he was pulling the strings moving him out means that you know were going back to a state of insecurity and uncertainty and unpredictability in yemen where everything can happen and i think this is very very dangerous that the people of yemen and have endured what three years of the most brutal kind of war and conditions resulting from that more can they look forward to any brighter prospects as a result of this very important Strong Player being removed from the scene yemen is already a failed state its a state where there is no Central Government the institutions of failed most of the structures of failed the economy has failed the war has further destructive it destroyed the entire country so i think in the in the short run we are in for a lot more violence a lot more you know i think in the in the very short term i think especially around sanaa we will see a lot more fighting urban warfare house to house and that is something that you know will kill civilians a lot of civilians will be killed and long that run there is uncertainty and i think this is where the International Community come in comes in this is where the g. C. C. Comes in you know how will regional players deal with whats going on on the ground because the problem of that is. Now appears seventy two hours ago as the new joker he was a new guy that you know everybody was was having said oh this is the way out for the for the saudis out of a conflict of a war they didnt want to be involved in anymore and now this has disappeared which means how do the saudis or the emirates get out of it and the emirates of work for months and months trying to get him into that position and of of basically canceling that alliance with these they have achieved that and within seventy two hours hes dead you know huge strategic failure both for the g. Eight for the other two g. C. Countries the u. A. E. And saudi what does that mean for yemen now with a pullout probably not but you know thats a couple of different debate to be had thats what i was going to put to you them now on what does it look like now youve taken out this significant player what is the lay of the land looked like does yemens future lay in the hands of outside players. No the host is remain strong. Would see what it means in terms of the followers of Ali Abdullah Saleh and the Congress Party in general that through yemen for so many that decades whether they and their army units will turn now against the whole with these or continue to turn against the or some of them will will notice that their lead that has died was killed and some of them will actually join the status quo which is the hell with these being called rossana but let me make one clarification not to call a disagreement lets just call it lets be civil about it lets call it clarification i think its a bit oriental is to keep talking about tribes in the arab world i think once theres a Central Government as weve seen in libya as weve seen in yemen as weve seen in syria and iraq i mean with Saddam Hussein rule when i doubt the. Rule bashar assad ruled gadhafi at all there was no tribe thats going to turn against him weve seen that happen for decades and decades isnt that the basic unit of society in yemen is the tribal affiliation you know thats exactly what im saying when you have a strong central state when you have a strong Central Government with an army with a capacity over willing top down the tribes come and play along its only when those dollars or when foreign powers wanted to divide the society did they use tribal allegiances in order to destabilize order to turn some people against other people meaning tribalism exists. But tribalism exist when people want to use it otherwise something of government in those of societies including yemen under Ali Abdullah Saleh was able to maintain this entire thing whether through a balancing game or whether through talk of control and refreshen Central Governments in the. Era where able to take control and the only used to lie and tribal allegiances when it suited them just like when the for example the americans walked into iraq in two thousand and three they didnt use tribal allegiances they used national allegiances sectarian allegiances when it suited them but generally speaking i think Central Government is able to rule for the time being the country as weve heard is a failed state yemen is a failed state what would happen now that i Abdullah Saleh is no more what will saudi arabia and the United Arab Emirates decide to do in yemen of course is going to be. Big questions gentlemen can i say thank you for now because were just going to look a little bit how we got to this point weve been discussing the death of. And it comes at a time of huge change in shifting allegiances in yemens a two and a half year war over the past few days Ali Abdullah Saleh is alliance with iran back to the rebels fell apart faffing fighting them broke out between the two sides in the capital sanaa a stronghold that prompted salai to reach out to his rival the president i would mansour hadi and the Saudi Led Coalition that backs him that offer was welcomed by riyadh and just hours before the death president hadi announced that he would be fighting with salus men against the who says now we can talk to her came out you said it or in chief of the yemen place hes on the line now from the yemeni capital sanaa thanks for talking us tell us what is the situation in the capital now presumably news of this momentous event has spread. In shock the entire nation is in shock its not as if you the father had millions of loyalists i mean and as they have to rule the country for so many years right now is what cyanide is violent clashes have been used to a very large extent. But we do expect it to escalate later tonight this is far from over who. Should because the there are still many or thousands of troops who will try to have vengeance death so right now its called right now a lot of people us are still to see the shock but we do expect the clashes to resume all three take place at night how came so youre saying that its quiet for now but in the past five days also the residents of sanaa have been a cool help havent they in in very very vicious fighting on the streets we had the i. C. R. C. Raziel aman say that to many civilians in the way. The clashes inside of it happened are even worse than what happened in aleppo syria you know everest to be mentioned in those that almost every house there shaking or windows and some gunshots i mean it was very tense hundreds of thousands of ammunition we used. From twelve a. M. Until six. Almost impossible so the days of it but i had to because of the last four days has been. Incredible how people people were standing in their homes feeling that they cannot leave the house to buy food for their family right now at the. Numbers are finally leaving home by which the family because they were under siege that entire road blocks to work. Were under complete feature due to this august elation and the right now sorry how came i just wondered if you could if youve discovered any more detail as to the sequence of events that led to the ultimate demise of valiant dallas ally when were looking at pictures that have been provided by his the television which seemed to show him the formal either. Dead or dying and being wrapped in a blanket what more do you know. He was killed after he left his home or not he was killed while leaving near a checkpoint in some high district that points to the official we talked to. Those and the checkpoint did not know it was him. And then when they were clashing they realized it was a very special important person and thats your call thats when the clashes like that and thats when he was killed and after that then they took him. On a blanket. Doctor set up. And do you know i mean how was he killed what was used to kill him. He was killed in clashes in clashes with his vehicle against the. With the checkpoints so he didnt die during the clashes trying to loosen up. Some districts which is an outskirts of sanaa his hometown and so he was being with trying to get. Majority of us forces arent going to try to reach thats where our. All right thank you very much indeed for giving us the very latest from the yemeni capital sanaa itself thanks for that were now going to go to kuwait city and our correspondent jamal el shaddai al his there and jamal youre there of course for this very important almost critical g. C. C. Meeting the news of. His death must surely now been circulating among the leaders we know that the Foreign Ministers are there at least if not the leaders themselves. Yes martin i mean this latest Development Just underlines how volatile the situation in the gulf region is. In and of himself represents a lot of the issues that the g. C. C. Has been grappling with the fact that the war in yemen has gone on for over two years now the hundreds of millions of dollars that saudi arabia and the Saudi Led Coalition has been spending on an attempt to try and defeat from the beginning having failed thats have now tried to bring him back in the fold in the past few days to try and counter him against these and now that hes being killed if indeed those reports are confirmed then obviously that will further. Damage the saudi plans for trying to find a way out of the quagmire that they got themselves into inside yemen and the impact obviously of saddams death theres also the fact that it is yet another arab leader who dies of the century as a result of the instability that. Many would argue his regime and his rule has caused and thats could be a very clear warning to the need to find some sort of a solution to the many different problems that the region is facing we havent heard any specific reaction yet from the Foreign Ministers they have been meeting behind closed doors but were sure to be to bring you something as soon as we hear its but as you mentioned this current summits was already very sensitive and very important one because of the ongoing treaty see crisis in terms of the blockade of qatar but the fact that this in its development has happened is going to further. Increase the importance of this gathering and presumably this. Point at least to their deliberations as this is being described as an axis stencil moment for the g. C. C. Many of the members of the g. C. C. Of course very heavily involved in whats going on in yemen. Well put it this way martin a few years ago when the yemeni people came out to the streets and demanded for change and managed to essentially force outside abdullah father from power the saudi government and business especially the United Arab Emirates government continue to support highly above the fun fact they rejected the demands by easy people who had or were behind the revolution to get some completely out of power they maintained that he had some sort of rights or sort of sort of role to play the fact that he remained at least on the peripherals of the printed circle system in yemen is something thats many believe was a reason why the revolution there or the uprising never really succeeded then a couple of years later suddenly we found him in collaboration with the people who he was meant to be enemies with namely the whole hes and again there were still ties being link between. Saddam and the United Arab Emirates after saudi arabia through muhammad bin time and the current crown prince launched this massive war against yemen with the promise that it would be the decisive stormed out with and the whole seize. Rule in or a power grab in yemen and irans influence in yemen that has now gone on for a couple of years it became a reality a realisation amongst saudi arabia and the United Arab Emirates that actually they probably would need the most on the hand the influence he has and try to essentially win him over or by him over however you want to read it in order to pull him away from the fortys so that the balance can be realigned in their favor against the fortys obviously it becomes clear that the most honest maybe because of this continued flip flopping from one side to another no longer became somebody who was priceless or somebody untouchable and thats what may have led to it but the importance of such a development as far as the g. C. C. Is concerned is that there is no wind in science right now at least in the immediate future to the human crisis and this is a crisis that above all is killing hundreds of thousands of people. Thousands of people are making hundreds of thousands homeless and so forth but also it is dreaming this how he hunted me both from an Economic Perspective but also the Political Capital of the people like crown Prince Mohammed bin told manhunt because the longer it goes on without any clear victory the more damaging it is for his reputation all right thank you jamal those correspondent at that g. C. C. Summit getting underway in kuwait city here in this year with me is measured by larry who is a professor in modern contemporary history of the middle east at university at the end of this deal maker of yemen the fact that it doesnt bring an end to the fighting any close it will be hugely distressing and depressing in fact for the millions of people continuing to suffer every day in yemen absolutely i mean it is a historical differ yemenis for those who spent days on different streets since two thousand and eleven the mystery thing i guess that Abdullah Saleh i think this is a story called there for those people reminding them of another who actually leaving the political scene of a. Regime as as a person leading authoritarian regime. Of course you know the killing of five dollars doesnt mean that the end of the story in yemen its actually opening a new a new era of which is i would say hard to do to predict how things will go and in yemen i think it could open the door before more regional influence in yemen it will open a real conflict more in yemen especially with the with the absence of serious. Leadership in yemen now after he was that he was the person whos been seen by different a player that hes the man hes can be you know rely on you can work with despite the fact he was not really seen as as amazingly there but as a political power behind his rise because. You know he has a poet because he was belonged to the strong tribe he was he was you know he has the money he has the social contacts was supporting him he has this you know Political Party he was leading all of this all of these together and gave him a lot of momentum in the political scene of yemen and now i think there would be a serious mess on the political scene and i think i would expect mordred. Influence in yemen to shape the new era to take it to a different direction which may help those players and that. I would say that will bring more attention to them and the society and increase the level of suffering of yemeni people and. Senior political analyst and from what it is saying it sounds very much to say the position of outside players will have a determining effect on yemen but what now of the internationally recognized leader. Of his position and of the. Stronger than they ever have. Has been a very weak leader because of his dependence on saudi arabia and iraq that ability and he actually allowed it to be as such and the circumstances allow it to be a success but just to nuance a bit what i just heard just to be clear i dont think yemen can get any messier and i was one of the most important factors for the mess in yemen the last three years along with the what is another but he was an engine of messiness in yemen now yemen can get more tragic. We thought in syria and with several thousand then we thought hun tens maybe hundreds i mean you know a dozen and so we hope it will end the tragedy will end in yemen it could get worse but it cant get any messy and once again i. Was one of the engines for that mess and its. Now now that hes gone were going to have to look at a number of factors one what will his militant supporters do what was what will his party do or will it continue to break away from the whole thing or would it a lie then when some of them ally themselves with a healthy what were the outside powers of the socalled Alliance Saudi Arabia and the Arab Emirates and seoul so forth what will they do now with the intensified the the war against the how it is or will they conclude that theyre backed or not it was basically else or throw not to say anything else and that a diplomatic solution is the way forward in yemen because there is no military solution for yemen so some of these factors of course will come to play and measure before you get to the politics you have to deal with the military dont care how many support is supposedly talking about who are followers of Abdullah Saleh. And his conflict hate them who can offer them something to lay down arms potentially you have to look at his social base theres a tribe. Component of his you know military support and you have to look at the Political Party itself and those who are following him and seeing him as a leader for the political body and those another component of his military support we have to look to those people who are actually hating or actually the problem with themselves and those people they put themselves with the. Front so those are the three main main components for his military support adding to all of this those who are actually suffering in the last few years because of this missive to ation and yemen those people now you know they i soon they will find you know the limited support of you know. They will find an opportunity having said that we have to look at who will be the leader who will be the the person who will hold the. In yemen. Is meant to be in charge of the. President ial guard yes but we dont know what about his son because his son is you know as well and so we have to look at his son. If you will come back and what is the role he would have plenty of his father that issue to be looked at and. Just to clarify i mean weve seen sons before try to take over weve seen a stomach of that india that did not work out were going to look at very well from the baraka that he didnt want to go forward but it didnt work out for Saddam Husseins sons once their father was in trouble all right so im not sure i mean i think the circumstances are such that one thats very very. Clearly ready for this. I mean he Just Announced what few hours ago basically forty eight hours ago that hes breaking out that hes you know changing alliances and so so forth and they just encircled him and his forces and they took him on why i think they were ready i think they knew that this guy is going to be three sooner or later they understood that this was a marriage of convenience if we have one can call it that way and they dont like him the allied themselves with him but they dont like him that he miscalculated daniella miscalculated this time he miscalculated right and he died for it he was killed for it in what sense in the sense that the whole thieves understood all too well that this guy couldnt be trusted they need him for the moment they used him they exploited them they exploited his arms and his military units but when the time come that he actually changed allegiances they took over within hours so they were ready for him thats one to once again i need to emphasize this because i know i just you know so that my measure would be misunderstood on this yemen is a Tribal Society and i live outside it is strengthened by his tribe but a Central Government in the post arab world including in yemen in libya in syria in iraq and elsewhere the Central Government was the decider khadafi and saddam and assad and i doubt the loss of control of their countries despite tribe but allegiances and only brought up millett allegiances when they needed them foreign governments colonial powers used tribal engine see when they wanted to divide people or you or turn people against other people today yemen is a failed state. So tribes could eventually play a role because there is no more Central States and yet there are more than a number of factors one factor is more to the healthy. In control of the capital and its very important when you are in control of the capital its not like youre in control in some far away area with civil wars to look at syria in serious bashar assad stays in control of the mask and its area even though he lost control of eighty percent of the country but he had him in there other than because he was in the capital today the whole of the school and i think people in of would need to come to understanding that the continuation of this tragedy through a military solution. Is a folly is foolish that there is no military solution yemen and what we saw today by the death of idea after four decades of his rule shows once again that this country deserves more tranquility more more more soberness and understanding that there is no military solution for yemen really get what they deserve what will it take for yemen to find that political thread there was a hand outstretched by Ali Abdullah Saleh and his final forty eight hours towards riyadh riyadh welcomed that does that does that line exist still without him i dont think so you. Look at who these as being the arm of iran and i think. I will double and they are you know looking at whats happening today that iran is winning in yemen i think thats whats with actually complicating the whole matter it is that it said its a regional conflict its not about the only yemen i think the perception of the saudis the perception of him oddities that today is their own defeat in yemen because of course because forty eight hours tomorrow is saying they were perceiving Abdullah Saleh as an opposable allies of them now hes leaving and no one actually and you know to replace him clearly i would say so i think this is a this is a regional conflict that would have implications in yemen and outside yemen i think the truth is will be determined on whats happening what will happen in yemen but lets see what is that action from from the iran for example out i will look at whats happening in yemen how because now the whole watermelon of politics in yemen actually in the hands of who these previously it was fifty fifty between and who do now the whole thing is in the end there and of how how will handle all of this how will the. Run the day to day business with the absence of the support of our despite the fact that they said actually more than once since the announcement that they actually work with his Political Party had a problem with him as. Not with the Political Party he was leading so basically they tried to i would say minimize the know the level of conflict or possible conflict between them and his Political Party and saying we are willing to work with them and we are actually one of the represented so we are working with the you know the Political Party and we dont have any major problem with that and i think saying such thing they dont want to have i would say a serious conflict with his Political Party at the moment all right well lets now take a look at some of the key factors that brought down dollar salaries thirty year rule of yemen and his role in the war he was accused of corruption and of amassing billions of dollars of wealth during his time as a leader of the middle easts poorest country his time in power finally ended after prodemocracy protests began as part of the arab spring in twenty twelve hundreds of yemenis were killed after his governments crackdown on protesters and a few years after he was deposed salih reemerged again as an important player in yemeni politics after he allied himself with his the fighters in twenty fifteen but in a surprise turn of events he turned his back on his rebel allies in a televised speech on saturday formally breaking ties with his the his. Right lets hear from the u. S. Now we can speak to our correspondent Kimberly Halkett she is in our washington d. C. Bureau the the mess that has been in yemen for the past couple of years has been adequately exploited some would say by the United States and theyre there they have been quite active havent they in terms of trying to contain some of the other. Armed groups that has taken a hold in yemen during this this mess. I think that what i can speak to right now certainly is the most recent statements coming out of the white house on the state department and well we havent had any official reaction as of yet in terms of these latest developments certainly we expect that in the coming hours right now we do know that the secretary of state Rex Tillerson is heading to brussels for nato meetings there were of course this issue and if the deteriorating situation within yemen has been a focus of discussion for some time of course this is also been something that the white house has certainly taken notice of given the fact that there has been as you point out a lengthy involvement of the United States in this region most recently the United States in a statement from the white house as of about ten days ago welcoming the opening of both the port and the airport there in terms of allowing some humanitarian assistance to get in given the fact that there of course the population in dire circumstances according to the white house very concerned about the millions of yemenis that are currently facing severe deprivation according to white house statements but youre right there certainly has been concern in the United States about u. S. Role there considering in recent years it has become rather murky at best in terms of involvement of course the United States for many years has been giving millions and not only humanitarian assistance but also in military and intelligence cooperation but there has been some concern from u. S. Lawmakers about what that looks like most recently Bipartisan Group of lawmakers in the house of representatives putting forward a bill to try and get some clarification on that given the fact that there is a concern about what they in the u. S. Congress many believe is a growing stalemate there and an ease in the u. S. Role but also to just the fact that there has been a criticism of the saudi led bombing. On schools as well as hospitals and civilians so certainly this is an clarified role in the view of many lawmakers and of course in terms of these latest developments still watching for reaction from not only the state department where Rex Tillerson is is en route to brussels but also from the white house where the president himself is traveling as well today to Salt Lake City utah all right thank you for that kimberly Kimberly Halkett our correspondent in washington d. C. Well and dress creagh is back with us hes assistant professor at Defense Studies Department of Kings College london and ive touched upon an area that we could discuss a little bit more now with kimberly and that is about the number of of armed groups that always exploited the chaos that had become yemen and that she got a. Significant foothold in the country like al qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula one of them now one of them that i mean this whatever happened in the south of the country is somewhat isolated from what happened in sonar over the last couple of years the the war has been you know and i dont want to use the tribal term again but they have been but it uses its terms but it is easy to reach out to certain groups and tribes in the southeast of the country particularly them the mirages in particular have build their own fighting force based out of you know some of the but you know the thing is with yemen when you there are so many different layers and of sexualization its the tribe is one aspect then there are different sectarian divides which are less important in my mind and some people say you know some people make it out to be sunni versus shia and then there are different even within these groups there are splits and there are different splits between the highlanders and the people who live in the south theres been a Southern Movement which was supposed to be independent so all of these different groups all these different affiliations have on that some point and contributed to the many civil wars that weve had with guns it is of course it is actually the country with the highest per capita secular nation of arms in the world and so thats why they dont really need any. Foreign intervention to arms shipments to make it even worse because they have enough arms actually i think the number was three arms per million seventy two million are arms this is huge so they are going to continue fighting they they continue fighting without Ali Abdullah Saleh about particular those in the south al qaeda and so on they havent really in the recent years at least since the arab spring really didnt didnt really have a way and into the solid government. The power plays and who are the who are the most Significant Players both internally now and externally who could affect a significant change that could bring about every duction if not an end to fighting. Well i think again we should divide this at the moment were talking about sonar were talking about the north the different factions involved there and then we have to talk about the south which is mostly aid and you know the hinterland which is why they controlled by the u. A. E. And their proxies. These proxies i assume are for you where you control i dont think they would get involved into that war at this point but there might be a decision to retake to so now if fighting gets worse you know this is you know one part of the unpredictability the question in sanaa is now the g. P. C. The party of Ali Abdullah Saleh they already said over the last twenty to seventy two hours they will have people voice criticism of his decision to cancel the alliance with who these are these people were already against him what will they do now will they will they will they align with whoever succeeds him will they fight him you know he himself was trying to build a nepotistic Patronage Network involving some of his family you know ahmed is son is very important in the Republican Guard what will his role be and i think hes actually in the u. A. E. From what i remember i think hes still on the house arrest there but again these people even when theyre not in the country they still have a reach you know theres so many different players and players and so many different layers that i think anybody who wants to solve the conflict now would probably have to focus on the north and leave the south to itself for now because thats the more immediate problem probably and into this into this morass because that is what it is what point did. Un and in trying to work out any kind of Peace Process that they have attempted several times already of course there are three levels of this conversation level number one and that was the engine for why there was interest in yemen the war on terror. Level number two the situation in yemen escalating and so sort of the political situation improving leading to a war at a level number three is diplomacy and Political Solutions and of course the u. N. Envoy. Id like to ask a question to our viewers around the world anyone could just ask themselves and i think everyone is capable of answering this question sixteen years after the war on terror where yemen has been an important battle can anyone say that this battle on tighter this war on terror has made progress in yemen i mean we started with zero or production zero zero point one and how here we are a failed state what remains powerful where actions remain organized in yemen and now i could only think how i sole is going to exploit the situation in yemen because thats what they do they exploit poverty impoverishment the instability and chaos in order to get in and fill some of those gaps and get some new allegiances not to a state or to a cause or to a sect or to a tribe but to act and make that arresting if you will vision of something so ok i did that in abyan and other parts of yemen and i think certainly. Able to do that certainly the diplomatic solution didnt want any where one of the reasons is because the whole thing is water controlled somehow did not as responsive as they should have been and they as well as the late president Ali Abdullah Saleh to blame but also saudi arabia and the united emirates in the way they continue on with the war almost three years on. Without concluding that at one point there is no military solution for this conflict and they need to embrace diplomatic solution was also another reason the third and most important we just heard from kimberly about the humanitarian aspect and really although we do political analysis and im not an n. G. O. S sort of person i dont do charity i dont do this kind of stuff and certainly on air but i tell you when we start when we see the tragedy that is called yemen today and martine yemen is known in the arab world for one single label its called the happy yemen yemen aside thats what yemen is called for whatever reason you know that yemen is famous for its honey yemen in the arab world in the muslim world its famous like afghanistan for their honey can one can only look at afghanistan and yemen today and speak of honey we speak of tragedy we speak of cholera now honey we speak of tens of thousands of dead not of sweetness of honey so really its a tragedy and in all three levels the International Community as well as regional powers have failed this country as much as its leaders have failed it right good point and for us to talk to you soon my belt who is based in sanaa she is the spokeswoman for the International Committee of the red cross and shes joining us on the line from there and. I dont know whether your experiencing this poor sister station if you like of hostility is for now as as the people of san are absorbed with this momentous news but what is the situation around. The situation one of the very tense actually yesterday night and does continue is only this morning and what we could actually hear very far off clashes. And it was a very shaking my not only for humanitarian aid workers who are here and theyre leaving the scene to be a Little Soldier a good many who are suffering from this a situation almost more than two years and a half of the current conflict have the airstrikes stopped for now for the moment i cannot hear any hope of air strikes but yesterday and the day before it was it was heavy ones. And. We know that the population actually is stuck because of the ongoing fighting and the dont yet strikes. On the ground there are fighting than a lot of shooting around then and yemenis are really afraid even to go out from their houses because theyve prayed to god to get the bullets and doing so even to get some water or. Getting some food for their family and they cannot even access hospitals because they afraid. Situation going on in the streets and presumably its almost impossible for you as a representative of the i. C. R. C. For you to actually do your job. Indeed because actually sorensen we received a ready request from that to many hospitals and fox mainly of photons and what hospitals or actually asking for a moment ago supplies in order to meet the cleaning needs and to treat actually wounded at them receiving on a daily basis and there we could not so far managed to leave the records because we cannot access our medical warehouse which eventually lost him in the same in the end in the heart of the of the ongoing fighting and given the dire situation confronting the residents of sonar in particular what would it take to make life just a little bit better for them now what would be make them better surely is the fire fight spot even from a lot of hours and. Or a yemeni red crescent volunteers would be probably. Access. Either to get help also to retrieve the body because we are repeating many calls. From yemenis who want to talk and so far we cannot do anything we cannot help and finally i notice that the situation has deteriorated says so much in sanaa that you i. C. R. C. Virtually sent town some of your own staff for their safety. There was actually a kind of a standard procedure they are not sent they are sent out actually on the preventive measure is really a creation of our staff we kept hearing from our u. S. Central staff that we needed to continue will provide yemeni population but not very very little in terms of aid and support and i want to leave was just this morning. Continue to support our from from a distance is just. A preventive measure but we are still here and im talking to you directly. All right well we appreciate your time indeed so much of the i. C. R. C. In sanaa thank you very much indeed for that and just one note on the news was its coming through the movement is now saying that. Was killed by its fighters in an r. P. G. A rocket propelled grenade attack on his car so thats being reported by the news wires out of yemen as to exactly how. Mitt his and. Where e. Ring is back with this now and we were saying a little bit earlier trying to look a little bit further ahead now as to how yemen can get out of this quagmire that its been in for more than two years now. Is not particularly optimistic about. U. N. Mediated efforts at this particular point what could make a difference do you think. To be honest i share with my one that you know so the level of some mystic about the situation i. Look at you know theres just the final statement now you read about from these i think that has an important indicator that try to raise their hand of the killing of what ive done a lot of because they realize there is. That and they want to avoid any kind of from a vacation internal conflict with the his Political Part of his tribe or try to avoid any kind of escalation on the level of confrontation in yemen i think this statement to me indicates that they tried to wash their hands from his killing and trying to you know its not our business actually they themselves killed. And i think that that takes me to your question. I think. You know interest. To follow is how you know regional players will play on the situation how they will react to all of this i mean. The issue of the g. C. C. Summit will be and you know and interesting the platform of the actions and i think we know that the g. C. C. Had an initiative about yemen and actually. This initiative meant to keep for a while Abdullah Saleh and the political scene now we see that you know this now that the summit is coming after his death one day after his death will be very interesting to see how the g. C. C. Leaders would react to this and how they will look at the yemen situation the many situations that are one of the major also players should be looked at his its action is to run iran is looking at the whole situation with a lot of suspicion because they know that this is the platform where they confront the idea and i think there would be a lot of i would say speculation about what would be the reaction of thought on to the what happens today in yemen again. Ever whenever a disk. A yemen that its fate is decided by outside of its borders by players who are not yemeni. Just a reminder i mean its not a member of g. C. C. Is it in yet its on the Arabian Peninsula it is a neighbor a neighboring country the g. C. C. Countries and as we know some of the g. C. C. Members a deeply involved in the war that is that is rendered yemen. Into this dire state theyre deeply involved in whats been going on you know one of the things that the doesnt work well for yemen of course is spotty and the fact that it was a republican quote unquote and this it was not part of the g. C. C. But certainly its poverty. I want to underline something martin so im not misunderstood i think the only hope for yemen is a diplomatic solution thats the only hope there is no military solution in yemen im just not as certain that those responsible in abu dhabi riyadh or for that matter to her on have concluded that and its usually unfortunate that it takes countless deaths and destruction in order for narrow minded leaders to conclude the most obvious thing a country like yemen and specially in a civil war where you know we know what happens when you kill so many people i mean can you do you really create peace after that you know you create hatreds and animosities and so so so forth. I just think that diplomatic solution is the one you go forward and i hope that the death of i doubt the last. Would be a trigger for that kind of effort would be put into diplomacy rather than war and we would see some of that martine maybe tomorrow or even today from the Foreign Ministers. Preparation for the gulf summit because the gulf summit concerned two very different messages one message could be that saudi arabia and the United Arab Emirates and their allies are going to continue with their war in yemen against the us another one could be emphasizing the diplomacy and the u. N. Role in coming in and trying to bring the various parties together again the various parties in yemen is like the host these unlike. They have used foreign powers against one another in yemen so we can blame foreigners for intervening in certain country but we should also blame the local factors the local actors that accept and that embrace foreign powers against their own citizens within the one country and i think i love the last ali as well as the host cities and others in yemen have done that. And i just want to run this line by you as well gentlemen the line coming in from one of the news was that it wasnt just Ali Abdullah Saleh he was killed in this r. P. G. And shooting attack it was also the assistant secretary general of the g. P. C. His party. Does that signify the the end officially of his Political Movement and i can add to this that. His is not known where is he now and no one knows whether hes alive or actually being killed so basically the most important the figures within the political i mean many Political Parties. Are actually. You know no one knows where are the two are killed and the third one would assume to lead is not you know is not known where is he so i think that is that is create a lot of. Concern about. The was a believer ship. And i think it will add also mordor more concern about you know where where this will take you know. Not only yemen you know those who are actually work. In the last four years those who are actually supported that are how they would react to this because lets not forget that who gain legitimacy with the supporter of the law because they did not want to be in the political scene alone from the beginning they wanted that are going to be in board and his Political Party now. Is out if his Political Party decided not to cooperate with what his hope is will be under the sun which basically there would be a real. I would say conflict with a lot of groups within yemen and those not only who actually work there are those who actually whod hated he hated the sectarian. I would say. This course. Or played with in the last four years thats something you knew to yemenis and i think a lot of yemenis are not happy with this discourse spreaded by holders of the last few years. Weve got a minute can you talk us through the images that were seeing on our screens right now and sort of bring us right up to speed with what weve witnessed within the last couple of hours and where yemen is today and youve got a minute certainly those images remind me of the tragic developer who saw in libya the way monarch of that who was killed although the circumstances are different i have. About the situation in yemen as we see today the killing of the have done three things at the same time it tweak his own party the Congress Party the Congress Party was strong as long as it was in power it was strong as long as he was its leader for four decades i think the Congress Party and all its units in the media after they have been weakened i think the whole cities that are contorting of the capital have also been weakened today because they have lost. And his people that have been with them now for some time couple of years and i think the allies saudi arabia and abu dhabi have lost. A bit one in yemen now and thank you thank you very much indeed do stay with us here at out today well have continuing coverage of the situation in yemen. 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