Expect that he will be talking about the issue of whether he is going to apply for asylum here he did one of his first contacts when he came here yesterday was were pulled back out whos a lawyer who specializes in cases of extradition and asylum and dealt with the Basque Separatist Movement after back in twenty ten has got thirty years of experience in these issues but at the moment as you said before the Supreme Court is just making a hearing now in madrid and deciding exactly what action to take at the moment the Catalan Leader is not a fugitive there are no run over proceedings on extradition yet nothing has been received by belgium but no doubt he has prepared the ground legally to what his options will be whether hell set up by government in exile here in brussels now the moment. The belgian Prime Minister has actually said that there is no question of any asylum for the Catalan Leader and but there are other members of the Ruling Coalition specially the flemish whove got very strong links with the catalans and also on that own separate homeland here in belgium they say that the situation is so grave for the. Cabinet members and the Catalan Leader because theyre facing possibly a thirty year sentence for rebellion and tradition and misuse of public funds that its very likely a case could and should go through for asylum here in belgium but the Prime Minister has actually said that at the moment he doesnt think that will happen hes received no information on this and as i say theres no no no expedition motions put yet to the belgians and so the Catalan Cabinet in exile and the leader are free to move about as they would under the normal shandon agreements in the u. And we expect to hear from them there very shortly now that at issue is whether hes going to take part in the elections on december the twenty first whether he will comment on that whether he will comment on learning or on exactly whats happening inside look right at the moment whats happening inside barcelona and weve yet to hear from him for the last four days either been avoiding the cameras hes made no official statement so his words here today in the next few minutes will be eagerly awaited david is it clear if he can technically at this point address political asylum or ask for political asylum when up until now because he hasnt formally been charged with anything harvey. Well. Thats right i think hes probably going to wait until those charges have started passed lou. The Supreme Court said hell have to find out what those even the feedings are in the drink before he really sort of artifact question which everybody is asking will he go a little asylum here will he go for a full asylum in france several areas in france and also the north of catalonia in france and said that they will prepare residences for them if they need to create a government in exile but it will be a next government only in name it will be a refuge for them but facing such serious prison sentences hes clearly come here to talk to the the the lawyer whos most experienced at least very serious to examine and sound out what the legal opinion is whether he can make an application for asylum here but at the moment as you say we still dont quite know what action the Supreme Courts going to take what action the belgian will take in response but he has got the best the lawyer has so much experience in these cases some thirty years of experience and especially dealing with the past separatist movement as well david stay with us because we know this is going to go on for a while but lets bring in what abdul hamid shes watching things from barcelona the catalan capital for us and im wondering how eagerly people there especially in the Pro Independence camp here from colace them all. I think. Because the fact that he was. His Office Monday morning. Absolutely everyone. Members. One of them in a radio interview this morning said that it came as a surprise to him as well. At least from hearing. This trip abroad was organized secretly and then all of us was leaked to one of the. Papers monday morning from there really that all the speculation. Now people are very surprised actually expected to hold and here behind me to try to enter his office and actually come true with what he called for which is. Manner. A morning there were more police today on the square everybody was getting ready for. More than anyone would like to hear from him. Earlier he said. Judgment on why he left he wondered if he was going to come back. We were all dreaming about that our leader should be here. They are two people who are. Activists. Independent. After the referendum and before the declaration of independence and now on the square you have a big poster of them it wasnt there yet. Some people are these two people are in. Our leaders have fled. She was it was a very emotional moment for the. Questions when you look at the sort of mobilisation capabilities that exist in the Pro Independence camp to what extent does any sort of peaceful resistance of madrids will really hinge on. Can organize can put together from. The moment. The various. Parties including the one of. The moment. That actually article five five five and the measure. By the Prime Minister under that article are the ones. Happening. On sunday. But ever since. None of the i think a lot of the dreams of the. True. I mean giving us the perspective of how it looks from the paps the grassroots there in catalonia in barcelona this is how it looks right here now in belgium in brussels where the press club where everybody is waiting to hear from callers. Who wonder simmons has more now on the charges facing cattle and leaders what we might expect in the coming days. The police may be guarding its but the siege of Regional Government here no longer has a president as its head the Spanish State is in charge its flag didnt get removed when says session was declared by Parliament Last friday the only sign of carlos. Is his portrays his name is among twenty others on the charge sheet filed by spains chief prosecutor they can learn when your mother the. Prosecution has filed several charges for rebellions addition and embezzlement against the main political leaders of the cattle and Regional Government in their actions and decisions over the past two years you have caused an institutional crisis that resulted in the unilateral declaration of independence this was carried out without observing and ignoring our constitution these charges of the worst case for the sacked cats a lot of leaders sedition carries a maximum of fifteen years in jail and rebellion a maximum of thirty years. Some ministers braved it out by appearing folk work then being asked by police to leave one was defiant. We will continue. Later came separate meetings of both parties that were in the Government Coalition they both agreed to take part in the elections called by the Spanish Government for december more twists and turns in a crisis with so many dimensions and now the threat of jail hanging over politicians who declared a republic but now want to stand in the elections and do similar aljazeera barcelona. Now the deposed cathal and president as we know is travel to belgium hes there to meet his lawyer spains chief prosecutor as ive been saying Assault Charges against leaders of catalonia Secessionist Movement on monday the ousted catalan officials could face up to thirty years in jail if they convicted of those charges which include rebellion sedition and embezzler who demands lawyer says he didnt travel to brussels to hide from the spanish authorities whose demand is expected to address that press club from belgium within the next few minutes he comes to belgium first of all i think because its the capital of europe thats first secondly he is here legally completely legally and he has the right to come here hes not hiding here. And i think to have a forum on the world its better to be ambassador than members from brussels is the capital of europe i think its also a senior and symbol to come to brussels. Lets continue the conversation with david chase who is watching things live for us from brussels and david theres a lot for brussels to consider here and how it handles any request for political asylum or even how it how much support its perceived to give to karlas pushed him on a lot at stake for in terms of its relations with spain for itself and the wider e. U. Situation right. Yes i mean hes really put the political cat amongst the pigeons here in brussels as you say is not only representing twenty eight Member States at the moment none of whom recognize the declaration of independence of catalonia but also its causing huge problems for the Coalition Government here which is very fragile because theyre dealing with their own sort of separatist elements and the new Flemish Alliance their migration minister went on television over the weekend and said that the political situation is such that he feels that there could be. An accepted asylum request as far as the cattle and government in exile is concerned now this would have an impact within the actual coalition because essentially. The the flarm to the flanders party and theyve been alive for many many years now to the capital and Independence Movement are also pressing for their own independence and that coalition is only holding on by the fingernails as it were the Prime Minister of belgium has said lets not fan the flames here were not going to give any political asylum to the cattle and leadership at the moment thats what he said thats what the statement is and also prophets of course very concerned within the e. U. To make sure that this is probably one of the block this breakaway of catalonia after the bread that is increasing the pressures within the European Union that weve seen in so many cases not only the rise of the populous right wing the problems with migration quotas with the physical group in the east of europe but also many other areas who also have what they feel are legitimate claims to break away from those countries now the e. U. Must try and resist these claims theyve got to try and keep the e. U. Together these are very difficult times for the brussels bureaucracy and the European Union and so well see a very hard stance coming out of the commission the council here because they will turn their backs very much on the idea of a separate catalonia they will not recognize that they will not try and mediate they say this is a sovereign problem of spain and the politicians in madrid so difficult times for everybody here not only the local belgium government but also for the heads of state and the European Union so i mean all right david what you can see on the other side of the screen where its gone now is the reporters there fanning themselves inside the press club where david is standing outside it looks like it may take a little bit longer than we anticipated for us to hear from colace push them on so well come back to that situation as soon as we get some action in that room for now lets thank david change to that. 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And they have serious concerns for their safety on manison and whether they may be are not so barricaded themselves into the center. Thank you back to the Brussels Press Club where we understand the deposed catalonian leader colors pushed him or has now entered the room where he will address his supporters and the world in the after everything thats happened in the last twenty four hours there he is were watching him appear he has not been speaking in public for a number of days and crucially critically he wasnt seen yesterday and many people expect him to show up for work at one of the Regional Office there in barcelona and try and carry on with business as usual as he would see it from his perspective this by the warning from madrid that he was now deposed and members of parliament have been relieved of their duties too because of the session this vote. In the last twenty four hours weve had the director of prosecutions Public Prosecutions of spain come out and announce those charges which are to be brought against all theyre seeking to bring against a number of catalonian leaders and indeed even members of parliament so a lot of issues for him to address there as well as of course the big question of the speculation about whether he will apply for political asylum in belgium. Yes. You. Can clearly hear and see indeed the press scrum thats going on and the excitement you know to hear from him a lot may depend now in terms of how this crisis develops on what carlos proved a moment is going to say perhaps what he wont say and announce the word expect haitians following his call for a public peaceful democratic resistance of madrids well that we would see a lot more action in barcelona in public buildings than we have seen in the last twenty four hours so a lot of people now scratching their heads and wondering what is the plan after he disappeared from there and has now reappeared here in brussels. And youre. Going to hear from you know that maybe theres. Not enough of that. Because. Who still has not formally been charged with anything yet he is not technically a fugitive while the Public Prosecutions have announced that they are seeking charges that still has to go through the National Courts before any charges would be finalized and formalized in a way that would actually stick to specific people be presented to specific people like collis push them all. To let you say. What you. Want in the morning thats not it is no no no you know what we really should have a good look at what we think you want to hear you know what im getting these lines just coming in that Spains Constitutional Court has now canceled catalonia as declaration of independence course there wasnt a lot of doubt about madrids position on the issue of catalonia is independence but that just takes the process quite a bit a little bit of a step forward. Like. The thank you i was a little little in time sorry really with. This all coming out you know which. We know that its very its. 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Products that have been checked that indicate to you that the Spanish Government wanted to conduct a very aggressive attack and we thought president against the people of catalonia against officials the where to go to the legitimate government and again to the government i presided with charges from the prosecution the but sometimes yesterday but sentences could be adding up to five hundred years of jail against members of the cartel and government with arrests. That friday we agreed unanimously that the government would give priority to caution safety and moderation. We assumed that dialogue and negotiation. There was that we always thought it might end to find a solution to this conflict. That dialogue was impossible. So i would like to remind you that before and after the referendum of october first. We have always reached out to have some dialogue. We even propose to suspend their collaboration of independent to exchange it for honest dialogue that proposal was rejected by the Popular Party and their socialist party they do not wish to accept that there is a huge problem that they have to face that they dont wish to face it in political terms but father through the repression. In friends now. Usually hear. Their letters he feel like he was able to remove the bill from your sources as you minda buzzers as you go on exams say whatever you made up story you did extend what. These are going to be hearing and were still listening into colors praised him only speaking now in french and basically reiterating what hes just told members of the press in english but as he described it following the fact that they found out that in their opinion the madrid government was planning quite aggressive action against as he put it the catalonia government and its officials bringing charges as he put it that add up to more than five hundred years of jail time they decided to pursue a path of what hes calling caution and moderation and safety. I mean its understood of course that this is coming from somebody who is not officially yet a fugitive but was expected many did expect of his followers at least that he was going to stay in barcelona in catalonia and try and organize the sort of peaceful resistance of madrids will that he urged people to take upon themselves many expected him to show up on monday yesterday at the Regional Government buildings headquarters and try in the sume the work of a government in defiance of madrid so who is a more now explaining perhaps why he is now in brussels pursuing a slightly different course of action what was expected some people expected of him following the moves by madrid to the legitimize and not recognize that votes a session a vote which they held there that led to the declaration of independence which in turn prompted madrids action to cancel that process. But it has been decided to ensure a guarantee that there are there are not going to be clashes theres not going to be violence or we cant build a republic based on violence if this punish the government wishes to build their project on violence that theres a. They cant drag