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Hello and welcome to the program im james bays u. S. President donald trump unveiled a new american strategy in afghanistan two months ago since then theres been no letup in violence nationwide and the last few days alone have seen a dramatic surge in Taliban Attacks on thursday the taliban killed nearly sixty Afghan Security forces in a wave of attacks across the country forty of them died when an army camp in southern kandahar province was almost wiped out on wednesday six policemen were killed in taliban ambush in the Northern Province of bulk and nine policemen died in a Taliban Attack on please posts in western fora province a few hours later at least twenty two attackers were also killed and the worst attacks were on choose day suicide bombers killed at least seventy four people when they targeted police compounds and government offices to discuss this lets bring in our panel of guests and we have in kabul mail ice water hes the managing director of the peace training and Research Organization in washington d. C. We have david said he. As a senior associate think tank c. S. I. S. And a former Deputy Assistant secretary of defense for afghanistan pakistan and central asia and in dublin we have Michael Semple he is the former Deputy European Union special representative for afghanistan and is now a visiting Research Professor at Queens University in belfast lets start with you mayor was or dark in kabul youre there on the ground a very violent week for afghanistan how bad are things. How you michael and i think to me it was quite bad. And just tribal form and have homes and kabul particularly hearing what happened and back here in the house in kandahar. Which gives a kind of for i mean does the purpose of afghans that the Afghan Security forces are losing their man and their or maybe and frustration of the opposition groups and their their circus skills and that much access to bridge. And side inside of their bases. There is kind of losing support or a hope for the future negotiation to i think an hour or so for any kind of military going to where the Afghan Government together we did initial community so its it was not a good news despite the afghans were expecting that there will be really peace talks and from both a particular from the opposition side there is some kind of. Fighting or at least will be reducing the rent was coming. But what that didnt happen. It was a discouraging week last week and more losses after Afghan Forces we should form an Afghan Police and in kabul was was not a good news david said me in washington d. C. Two months into the new trump strategy and perhaps more importantly sixteen years into this war is the u. S. Winning. I think this is a really interesting time theres been some serious developments over the last ten days particularly regarding pakistan which is the core of the problem little over a week ago the Pakistani Forces under severe pressure from the us recovered a canadian american couple and their three children who had been held hostage by the taliban for over almost five years that Recovery Center was in response to a strong set of pressures that the u. S. New policy towards pakistan has put into place following that in the last two days u. S. Drones have killed two to rekey taliban pakistan the Pakistani Taliban who threaten pakistan but are currently in afghanistan and u. S. Drones killed their top leader mr horizonte and some others that is really a gift to the pakistanis on the eve of a very important visit of secretary of state tellers and to pakistan where he will put additional pressure on pakistan to stop its support for the taleban and yes there have been a lot of Violent Attacks but those Violent Attacks are actually the taliban lashing out because they failed to achieve their Campaign Objectives of taking and retaining a provincial capital this year in their Campaign Plan that the taliban announced in the spring of this year they laid out very Ambitious Goals for creating more care or tory that they controlled and taking control of some Major Population Centers they failed in that because of the aggressive new policy by the United States government of increased in for information increased intelligence and most importantly increased air power so i would say if you look at the Bigger Picture this new pressure on pakistan combined with the new u. S. Commitment from the trumpet Administration May well signal a turning point in this war do you agree with that Michael Semple weve heard about a tough approach to pakistan how much of the rest of the trump strategy is new in your in your view. Yes david is absolutely right to take the developments of the past week into a wider context the the taliban over the past two months how found u. S. Air power under pressure from not just the u. S. Special forces but more the Afghan Special forces they found them devastating they have failed as david said to take any major government position during the year but importantly they have been suffering really severe losses to such an extent that theyve had to reconsider their whole tactics taliban military hoped that by the end of this year not only would they be taking provincial capitals but they would be operating with larger military formations and now theyve realized that as soon as their forces start to come together into large groups they get picked off so what we have seen in the past week is a message from the taliban ok youve escalated youve hurt us we are going to escalate and they have escalated but in this escalation its not some kind of ground taliban army with thousands of fighters who are doing it the taliban have resorted to their own version of special forces theyve had they have some highly trained so commando style people prepared to die and they send a few dozen of these into action so its a few dozen determined on armed men with of course strong logistics about backup which david was talking about theyre the ones which have inflicted the pain they havent changed the course of the war theyve demonstrated that both sides can continue to hurt each other hurt the Afghan People until finally they come around to talking and in the fight there was water of course the other thing theyve done is started using the u. S. As equipment against the Afghan Forces with stolen humvees how worried do you think the Afghan Security forces will be worried about this new tactic weve seen i think a number of times now and it seems to be very effective. I think one of the weakest part of the Afghan Government is that theyre that their intelligence particularly evident among their people or its beak so theyre all sleeping and Afghan National army and i was in and producing maybe and so that they have to come strong induct and find out the true or helping them from inside which is happening for the third or fourth time unless youre four months. These vehicles and that american. Troops have been captured by the taliban and theyre coming from remote villages and the Afghan Intelligence is failing to spot them. And stede of getting information i think from communities i think. That from the Afghan Forces needs to clean up their own soldiers for helping inform and said which has been happening for a long time i think thats the the biggest failure of the Afghan GovernmentAfghan Security forces that they cannot support people who are helping the Opposition Forces from and sat and so they cannot support military vehicles for coming in from districts of it and frustrating. Security forces bases and multiple ages. I think that the Security Forces and Afghan Government needs to look at that their intelligence loop to screen out who are helping them and terms of providing intelligence or one of bringing them to the doors of their bases thats thats i think what the Afghan Government needs to focus on in the coming years this is been a consistent problem hasnt david certainly there are elements within the Afghan Security forces who are helping the taliban or trading with the taliban giving away their weapons giving away their ammunition maybe giving away humvees i dont know. Its been a problem but its a fairly minor problem its less a problem of giving away than being purchased or being stolen or being seized in a tax the humvee attack that you mentioned a couple of days ago in my wand in khandahar province humvees were not used as fighting vehicles they were used as bombs both in that case and in the very very large truck bomb that devastated parts of kabul back in may but the taliban are doing is using these large heavy bombs equipped with explosives that they get from pakistan to sow terror and fear among people theyre not using them as part of a military strategy so i wouldnt focus too much on the fact that the equipment being used i would as Michael Semple had said as i said focused on the larger strategic picture and again i want to point to the upcoming visit of secretary unite us secretary of state tillotson to islamabad to meet with the pakistani leaders as a potential key turning point where pakistan may seriously begin reducing its support for the taliban of course secretary tillerson is executing a policy from President TrumpMichael Semple that took some eight months with him to come up with it and even when he announced that policy he didnt seem entirely convinced about what he was doing he said my original instinct was to pull out and historically id like to follow my instincts do you think with an uptick of violence President Trump down the line could change his mind. Well the the strategy is not just a blank check the strategy of course is based upon afghan partners also. Delivering success that this strategy depends upon the successful reform and improvement of the performance of the the Afghan Security forces they also the better performance inside the Afghan Government which is necessary if you want to win the cooperation of the the afghan population as mere weiss was was pointing to so they. Mean as it happens i think President Trump was speaking extremely almost fully on that when he said that. Instinct told him one thing but actually the circumstances oblige him to do Something Else and maybe many people can agree with that i think that he looked he looked into the void and saw that the consequences of an abrupt end to u. S. Assistance to afghanistan would be disastrous and therefore decided to persist what this strategy does is it offers more time for the afghans to bring about the kind of improvements in government that that mayor weiss talked about but it also provides an opportunity for for some kind of Peace Process and we presume well move on to talking about that this strategy is not just about. Fighting your way to some kind of victory this is about creating an opportunity to shape the conditions in afghanistan and to address the security requirements both of the region and of the u. S. David said the you know the realities in washington President Trump even though hes announced the strategy is still hearing lots of voices who say off to sixteen me is what is the point of this pullout there are prominent voices in the Republican Party saying that. Well there may there are some who were doing that you mentioned before in stings what President Trump is getting is a lot of very informed and vice from key key leaders inside his own administration particularly his chief of staff former marine general john kelly his secretary of defense former marine general jim madison his National Security advisor currently serving Army Lieutenant general mcmaster these people all know afghanistan and pakistan really well theyve participated in the fighting in general kelly as he described in a very emotional News Conference yesterday lost his son there these are people who understand what it will take to bring this war to a conclusion as michael said the taliban need to come to the peace table many of the taliban want to come to the peace table those who are behind the more violent actions of the taliban have been putting forward over the last several months are may not be the rulers of the taliban in the coming few months thats where pakistan comes in of pakistan can force the problem on to change their tactics and move towards peace i think we could see a turning point here. Let me ask you do you think the taliban right now are ready to come to the negotiating table or do they think because american strategy has changed a number of times over the last sixteen years they can wait this one out that the americans will be gone soon. I think i mean yeah that they are trying to negotiate to put to death definitely want because in the coming government if theres any kind of to go and thats why they have some very. Offensive fighting i mean the last couple of months particularly these attacks are only. To get up and coming to the americans that we are still strong going to be want to if theres any kind of negotiation for peace we need to share that we would have. One too and were not expecting that. These contacts to happen i think i mean. And this part of the year when you have one would think that they were going back to their sanctuaries and attribute the winter season in fighting to stop so i would say that much of this fighting is now. As is because of the peace talks coming maybe in the winter season where the fighting season is going to be off. Many many of the taliban i think thats pretty sure are. Shower sure and maybe a. Taliban. There or negotiating but we afghans particularly the public will see that as the pakistan food is not allowing them to talk to the Afghan Government because they were told on conditions and thats being strictly imposed by taliban from or trying to talk to the Afghan Government and we have said several examples where to start one for trying to talk to Afghan Government to have been kidnapped or killed and the others here that there are many taliban now that they are sneaking out of parks honest trying to immigrate to other countries you know to find a place where they could stay because they think that peacenik negotiation is not entirely in their hand and it has been dictated by by by date donors particularly pakistan so theyre all taliban who would like to negotiate but to depressurize from from pakistan is keeping them out or maybe trying to get to dictate the conditions box on the ground trying to put enough in government. Ive been looking at the official statistics coming from the u. S. Central command of the bombings in afghanistan and one thing is clear the amount of air support the u. S. Is providing to the Afghan Security forces is risen dramatically since donald trump became president during the First Six Months of this year the americans flew an average of eighty six missions each month in which some kind of munition a bomb or missile was released that compares with an average of only fifty one missions a month last year and the average number of munitions released against enemy meaning taliban or eisel targets each month has also increased dramatically growing from one hundred eleven in two thousand and six to three hundred sixty this year Michael Semple is that going to be enough to force the taliban to the negotiating table no not it is perhaps a necessary condition but not a sufficient condition that military pressure of alone will not bring the the taliban to the table in fact i think that mere weiss was making an extremely important point that i would like to to amplify which is that. There are you know there is a politics going on inside the taliban movement. My personal finding so far is that the top leadership of the taliban are doing everything they can to sustain the fight they want to fight not to talk they do not have a vision of a negotiated solution of the moment however mere weiss is correct that many inside the movement do want to move towards a settlement they want an honorable way out. I know this from many senior figures of the movement but they do not believe that it is possible while the current leadership is sustaining that the conflict the role of pakistan is very is quite complex that they im not convinced of that its simply the question of the pakistanis saying that you have to fight on ironically several pakistani attempts to get at least symbolic negotiations going on have failed and that the there is no love lost between the taliban leadership and the pakistani authorities if anything the taliban leadership are maneuvering to try and reduce pakistan leverage over them so i think that we should not should we could certainly it is right for the kabul government and the u. S. To be asking pakistan to help in terms of reducing attacks which are launched from pakistan weakening the Logistical Support to the taliban but im not sure that the pakistan of the pakistan is the right sort of interlocutor to ask to deliver the taliban to the table that i think that we have to listen very carefully to what mary weiss was saying is that that many inside the movement actually are ready to talk because they believe that they are being held back from that and i think that the Afghan Government help by its International Partners has got to do everything it can to facilitate that process that so that we actually make some process towards. Towards stopping the fighting maybe it will be a bottom. Process rather than a top down process because personally i dont believe that i the quest to sure all the fish our sure even though they they the quest of the cutter team that may or weiss refer to is actually ready to desire to deliver some kind of grand bargain maybe it will have to be a bottom up process david said ni could i perhaps take you a little bit back in time again looking at these. Statistics you were a senior official in the Obama Administration they eased off the taliban for a time the statistics show that and there is the general view from some that president obama was trying to leave afghanistan was this the time when the taliban managed to regroup was it a mistake looking back on it now it was very much a mistake president obama made it a priority to get us troops out of afghanistan and not to succeed in afghanistan his constant setting of artificial deadlines for troop and setting of troop cap numbers handicapped our militarys ability to carry out what was needed in order to achieve military success back in those days as president obama reached the end of his term he reversed himself a little bit and kept more troops in afghanistan that he meant to and gave his commanders a little bit of leeway when President Trump came in he gave the commanders a lot more leeway so when many ways were sort of on the military side were sort of clawing things back but i will echo what Michael Semple said is that while these increased air attacks are at a net important part of a strategy and probably probably cannot succeed without them we also need to have both change inside the taliban and one other point that weve not made but i think needs to be made strongly is the Afghan Government needs to perform better its military its police need to do better and its overall governance efforts have to improve in order to improve increase confidence among the people that the Afghan Government is the right solution for their future so this is really a complex situation. Where you need progress militarily with pakistan with the power and with the Afghan Government youve mentioned artificial timelines being unhelpful my question though to you Michael Semple is your estimation now how long might this take well you sort of answered the question yourself are they saying that the artificial timetables have been a been a problem. The the willingness to end this conflict is already there afghans on both sides of the war are already fed up with the fighting the toll which is being taken in terms of civilians Afghan Security forces taliban themselves is completely intolerable that tells me that if we have some political progress it may surprise people at how you know how quickly it develops so i dont want to name i dont want to name a survey a year year after one year to year three years four years that were going to say afghanistan is broadly at peace but i would say that that rapid progress is actually possible even over the next year mil was. Michael mentioning a Record Number of civilians killed in twenty sixteen three thousand four hundred ninety eight lives and so far this year up until july one thousand six hundred civilians what is the mood of feeling about this long long war in afghanistan what do ordinary people there say about. I think i mean its sad its going to increase and support from the taliban so not from the Afghan Government i mean taliban have been known that i mean paul does a dozen cities where he does a lot of civilians than the. Soldiers. On the government set who operating and the provinces and then the new strategy that mean might be more drone attacks people are worried that might be more civil and casualties in the coming years so i think Afghan Government needs to further trend their soldiers to wait seven to twelve days and. So should be the new american should troops come in they should be very careful about it because its not only surveillance were losing the general perception of the Afghan People who might be training for against against International Forces in afghanistan. Afghan soldiers needs to be trained. How they can react to any attacks so on their bases because in some cases theres always fighting there is or was heavy. Response from from the government surge which is not sometimes needed and thats going to it for not killing the civet at least torturing will and the sick logic of the different people surrounding does bases in these disagreements so i think that government need needs to to to look at that and see where they can reduce it so i think as well it is the soldiers need to be properly trained on that was one thing you hear you can see a lot about i think the job is to to our other guests to david said me in washington and from dublin to Michael Semple as ever thanks to you for watching and for all the background the context im to watch our recent reporting from our team in afghanistan go to our website out there a dot com if you have views on todays program you can go to our Facebook Page thats facebook dot com forward slash a. J. Inside story what should we. On this program. At inside story. For me take it from a. Short films of hope and inspiration. 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