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On thursday commune officials banned all protests as the election standoff between the opposition and ruling party escalates this week the Opposition Leader and president ial candidate withdrew from the upcoming rerun election the news follows weeks of protests by his supporters who believe unfairly lost in september the Supreme Court ruled the election invalid and ordered this reruns to take place but now that would mean that is out what will happen well joining us from nairobi to discuss this we have come out that way gone joe hes a constitutional lawyer and former commissioner with the commission for the implementation of the constitution. Shes a member of the National Assembly and supporter johnson said hes a member of the Ruling Jubilee Party and senator for Nairobi County and my colleague catherine soy shes a reporter with aljazeera english covering east and Central Africa welcome to the stream now catherine you know the government good to have you here we know the government has banned protests in three major city centers you can see this headline here. On my screen this is what our community thought about that. Is totally unacceptable its a direct attack on our bill of rights our constitution enshrines freedom of Peaceful Demonstrations someone else though says its a good thing this is a man who says we welcome that decision these demonstrations are purely for right loading us selfish interests and they do not represent us how whats behind this move to ban protests and how were other people reacting. Absolutely and thank you for having me and. Cabinet secretary here interior cabinet secretary had this press conference and he gave reasons why. The government has banned class. Thats in western kenya in the Central Business district in western kenya in mumbai a kenyan coast in here in nairobi and he cited security reasons. In the last few days or so with increasingly have been seeing cases where people are be robbed weve seen cases where shops and allies Opposition Leaders and opposition supporters of course have come out to say that had been high are being used to infiltrate and cause killers in what they believe are Peaceful Demonstrations and also accused police of using Excessive Force in the last i think a few weeks ago and we saw videos of police are seeing him beating up students at university. And yesterday we also saw. During their islands and we saw Police People injured dozens of people were injured several people are hospitalized with gunshot wounds so the cabinet separate of the interior saying that the reason why this protests have been banned in this area is to avoid an escalation of violence that the opposition has said that these. Demonstrations against the Electoral Commission and calling for electoral forms and theyre going to go on. Some of the demonstrations. Well i think its basically the the system and this is what julie has been doing you know theyve been trying to tell all our freedoms i mean at the end of the day the right to pick the right to demonstrate is in our constitution and then when we apply and when we modify them theyre going to have. A demonstration it is their duty to provide security in the initial stages they will tear gassing us we were not allowed to demonstrate over the last three demonstrations in their avi they were actually escorting us we never had any problems none of us in fact if you look at the last three or four. Demonstrations we carried branches tree branches we put our hands up we danced on the streets we will not violent in any way and when we saw somebody who was trying to steal we actually reprimanded them and to give them to the police they were not enough police to actually maintain order they were more policemen to try and stop the demonstration and now the band basically is is another attempt by the government to ensure that we go in the reverse in terms of our democratic rights so this is what member of our community had to say we will never back down we still stand to defend our supreme constitution and our rights we shall never be cowed kimo so how to take us back to how we got here in the first place help us understand why did mr odinga withdraw from the election. My understanding from the statement that mr give birth to the present australian Electoral Commission was that they had issued eleven irreducible minimum would have to field even going to participate in the elections in their perspective those issues have not been resolved and consequently they do not feel that they can participate because from their perspective if they participate then they would be. Legitimizing another rigged election i have by the way looked at eleven million moms i would say you know a fair amount maybe fifty percent of them are basic administrative issues Board Technology or needs to logan what some of fundamental they go to the very core of what a free and Fair Elections should look like and the commission has responded admitted to some i think maybe up or maybe about forty percent of them they have said some others are not possible for the reasons they have given i think contested naturally by nasa and so that is where we came from and i think i want to go to something that. I start my good friend to stop osiris the new senate the new woman ripped from nairobi and to serve this i think we must recognize the context in which we are in the reality is that we do not have enough policemen to protect the city from demonstrators and demonstrators may have the estimate of the best of intentions and i dont doubt it but i dont think when you have a thousand two thousand five thousand young men coming into the deep there is any way in which you can assure that the circumstances which esthers talking about which are very reasonable can be can be dealt with i would because sunday fred mighty and he had said very much and hes a cabinet secretary that youre not going to allow demonstrations in arabic but if you are talking about the Central Business district i think that is reasonable what he should be saying in nairobi because the people know me and i to demonstrate what is it we can do so that we. I also respect the rights of those that are. In the c b d. That is what you should be asking i dont think an outrage. Is also the answer and part of the problem in these countries that we never trust one another we talk to each other and i think thats something we need to be saying and what i would have expected a reasonable position certainly would recognize the challenge is that im there when you have groups of young people but i dont see that were going to do most of these for example that maybe come out i hear you there i had to write down what you said we never conversed with each other so this show will be an opportunity for that i want to bring in a few more voices this is i mean. I and i think i see your point but you mentioned the elections and not wanting them in the Central Business district we also got people online who are saying exactly the same thing but here is why some people say theyre so angry this is need she says has how does election victory stolen three times all his supporters want as electoral reforms to guarantee a free and fair viable and credible election johnson i want to bring you in here on this point what you make of this. Well. You know its you know theyre willing to an election. And. Of course you can be the Supreme Court of korea which knowledge but that action alert knowledge occasion was never a question of out there among people. In absolute terms as opposed to in fact the election was not a fight is was i didnt get that it is and he got it is and all of the writers look at it election so. The president. Has accepted the rule of law and accepted to go back another election there are very few president s in the world and enough of. Us all except they only victory to be subject to another election and thats because we believe in west another country. On a constitution. Which allows. It so long as there is a disability and. I think the order is usually there there was a current still on the wall street and other system is. Property. Arrest. A lot is what we want this for just because unless it were just. A number as not often isnt it will still look a little you know i mean financial as certain as i want to bring you in here but i was one our International Audience for the nasa the Opposition National supergrass alliance around the same pair had us or not i mean i mean appears of the day weve always demonstrated and we i mean we right now weve actually stopped because of course we were branded by the government as being violent who carry stores we want to loot etc etc but at the end of the day you know what i find really strange about this government its how they handle human rights issue weve had so many People Killed in kosovo why is the government using such high handed approaches when its dealing with demonstrators i didnt see the sea as much younger talking about the lives that are lost hes talking about the property hes even asking people to come forward and actually give him the list of the things that have been stolen or damaged nobody is obviously going to probably complain hes asking them hes trying to attract them in and the thing is most of the people that have come into our demonstrations are jus be financed against you know calling themselves in a robbery business the good freshness community thats the lets move away from nairobi for a moment lets go to because consumers obviously they are not to believe they know who to believe supporters were also demonstrating and stopping nasser demonstrators from not and a lot of the people that were there were not one obviously a little autonomy fifty. Minus a lot of it was do you believe support us i mean what im saying lets just lets recognize you love shooting really live bullets sort of which are a little bit like a bullet or does that make it real. I hear a lot of i hear you and i hear the point that youre making and i love your passion because our community is feeling exactly the same way on those two sides but i want to bring this end as were rolling up this comment from hakone who says what does oding want to achieve what with this and of course katherine you cannot speak for that. But according to your reporting what do you think hes trying to achieve what well let me just bring up points describing back to the demonstrations i think bloom really because ive been covering these demonstrations since they started i was in august just after it was declared. And i saw what happened people while looting in those areas we were in and again police really used the high and the very aggressive with the people we went to hospital and spoke to victims of people who had been shot by police the shooters all this had to do that they had in here in nairobi as well we saw looting happening and things like that and also the police using very easy hands i think the blame goes both ways now back to your question about. I cannot speak for you but from what hes been saying is that he were fresh election conducted he went to the Electoral Commission. And you know. To election to. Electrical mission ahead of in the election so thats what he once he says he just wants to have a fair. And level of a fair level ground so that he can participate so thats what he really wants thats what hes been saying but supporters of do you believe that the ruling party led by the president says that he is just power hungry. And he just wants to create. And make this country and governable so that they can sit down and sort of have a. Mint of sorts thats my awareness right now doing that is not interested in a power sharing thats part of the jubilee conversations and thats what thats what theyre trying to make people to believe they demonize raila at the end of the day right in a once what is democratically right whether he wins or he loses its not important what is important is that everybodys bought counts he wants to make sure that we actually have an electoral system that is not biased that is actually going to conduct an election that is free fair and credible and we never had that and we are so proud of our judiciary and as we can see i mean do you believe he is doing everything wrong i mean given to immediately after the chief justices ruling in spite of the fact that they accepted it right at the end of the day that the steps that theyve taken including coming up with a new election bill its obvious that they want to make sure that any course jubilee emerges as the winner and were saying that its not as awful as a lecture that i feel i hear you there i wrote what you said so i think iran dribbly is doing everything wrong come up i know you want to get in but i have to let johnson replied to this johnson. The whole government will. They have. On the animals in. The city and in the city so its a government as well themselves to the levels of poly people take advantage of it but what really is on record supporters what he wants to see is young people coming out he wants to see you know level that documented do you believe that as a doctor and you believe video. There is a sense since i cannot independently verify that video finish up your point johnson that i want to bring our community in. What is actions speak louder than words weve heard. What some people. Use are going to build institutions you know if you dont actually doing this or last you dictate what we dont discuss include dictate. Whether be elected to the members to discuss your forms we need to join them to discuss to have a rule of law. Election. If you have got one election if you have. How many cases. And. So im glad that you mentioned below one hundred twenty six this is where i want to bring this conversation back to you i hear the passion about the protests and i know that that is still on the top of peoples minds but the twenty six is looming this is a tweet we got from tanweer who says i think i should have continued to fight through the ballot because the withdrawal has put its supporters to shame another person ways back in on that and says he knew he would lose and thats why this happened here valuated it he doesnt have the peoples vote so what does this actually mean for the october twenty sixth election theres been some discussion about whether or not i think thats what drawl is actually a done deal at all yes he made his announcement but is there still some wiggle room for him to get back and i want you all to have a listen to this from broadcaster n. T. V. Kenya this withdrawal by this letter and i again i agree. With joy as he has got not having and till. You file form twenty four. But is when it crystallises into the drawer because withdrawal is supposed to be five using a prescribed form. Second matter what does this actually mean for the october twenty sixth election. The truth of the matter is that two three days ago when. We drew from this process i think the country was put in a spin the reality is that because i had never anticipated these sorts of situations people didnt know where to go fortunately yesterday morning the high court the High Court One of the have just given a result judgment about what should happen in terms of who isnt to be on the ballot what are they lose in terms of nominations and what are the circumstances that should what are the things that have an election within the sixty days the reality is we are a constitutional democracy we have an institution that is set up to conduct elections we have to go to and we have disagreements i think because we are still very delicate the least that someone like honorable reloading all of us paid a heavy price for that caused the most he should be doing is ensuring that were doing everything to build this is theyre not perfect by the way theyre going to make mistakes sometimes theyre made mistakes deliberate sometimes theyre make because you know they are also learning but i think its important that we grow and build institutions where were going is actually destroying this is the two shots then i would ask instead of us where will we go last cause that were talking about that have been very good sometimes for nasa sometimes for do you believe when things go wrong where are we going to go and by the way as stuff for the record i dont think myself i expect i have total contempt for the police when they shoot people by the way even when people are committing certain of their times when theres something called disproportionate force so i dont think anyone says that so therefore if you see no looting youre saying no but what you are saying is that a responsible opposition ensures that you also put your supporters out of harms way and one of those things is ortrud much younger he is proposing so i just needed to make that point to say that what you are saying is let us be reasonable let us recognize. Were not working in a Perfect World were working on were building institutions this election should go on in the my model because they are challenges that still are still there we will go back to those courts well in the elections when i have been in a court as opposed to shock there will be sort of. You cannot be a junior your horse with june you know hold on with your respect all right you neither can be a judge in its own course the fact that the liberals will enter into real all right not hold on bringing in an election bill because they have the tyrant of numbers so to speak right going to amend the rules into trying to make sure that nothing can go wrong with them again in case they mismanaged this election or. The law if they say let us there manage we should at least have all of the daily limit with a court yes maam or you know additional weeks or less and come out i was a little you know yes i hear you i want to bring in katherine has kind of raising your hair. On the circuit about all the noise but can i just jump in here and. If that is speaking to a lot of his supporters and people also do not support hes moved but they say surely how do you expect him to. Meet in an election that the Supreme Court you know being conducted by the same people that conducted the previous election that the Supreme Court said was symbolic so people who have been talking to and saying hes in his rights young needs to be soundly sloans so i mean just to you know support. Talk of asked is hes within his rights like there needs to be some response and some of these issues are that hes asking for are reasonable that thats my understanding from a lot of people thought it was well but what i dont understand is if the president s letter you know you i know you i know you have a question what johnson is. Trying to get in here and we havent heard his voice why doesnt john from what i had. Was still very clear issues that really raised what was the issues the issues clarity of the element of a suspended and this is not in the individual of the. Court but little that i would visit to conduct of election within sixty days so to say that for you to conduct an election. People you would want to be in the commission who doesnt sit in the commission but its a building its decisions now with the Supreme Court as well judge it will be that lucky will be easier to corroborate. That a little of interest we have lost our members from the opposition to join dark forces and its not about us you know as to what a member of the senate in the committee thought of the plate numbers from the beginning and looked at the four members position even if they came to disagree with us you can see if the majority of. The minority must have as opposed to be looked at by the people of the ruby to the limit of what i would be looked at as to what jim talent well you tell me you balance you know you discuss the issues but if you dont want to engage in bipartisan discussions and want us to get in the streets to get in the streets this is a country that follows the rule of law not the movement and certainly not one might call it so i want to bring up let me lie and i want to bring up this headline because you alluded to it can he has passed a controversial election bill which is deepening its Political Uncertainty now on wednesday the parliament passed a new law that says if one candidate withdrawals the other automatically wins the presidency this is what our community has to say about that rukun the size of the Ruling Coalition has passed more laws that make it impossible for the opposition to survive and elections and thus rivals withdrawal of course the withdrawal came before that but just looking forward aster what do you think might happen to have a sense of what might happen. Well i tell you what you know first of all i mean i come from me and all kenyans we come to understand you really actually won this election i can understand why the president would want to continue with the same people in office who bundled an election that was costing this economy forty billion shillings to approve another budget of ten billion to conduct an election with the same players no we ever actually said we want to reform the institution would rather de lay the election but have an election that is free fair and credible because what was the point of fighting all full of the democratic rights people over three hundred fifty sions you know called how can we send all these petitions back to the same body to conduct an election we really need to be honest in saying see here this is not about putting deby back in power this is not about taking us back to one party state from a multiparty democracy this is about kenya and you know anything any of the peoples lives you slaters that i interviewed we care about kenya they will not take us back what and i think right now as you know youve got a policy of there i hear you and i know there will be push back online to that as well and this is not though i have to in the conversation hear a big thank you terry gas and our Community Project but before we go a quick reminder that were now streaming live on you tube so check us out youll find a link to the live show every day on the aljazeera english you tube page its right there under upcoming live streams and you can be part of heated discussions like this one im kenya until next time ill see online take care. 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