August so she says shes holding talks of bangladesh about returning summer handed to me and maher those are the headlines the news continues in aljazeera after inside story keep it or. Trying to end a longstanding split palestinian rival groups fatah and hamas reach a deal but previous reconciliation attempts between them have failed can this one succeed and what could it mean for the future of the peace talks with israel this is inside story. Hello again im james pays theyve been rivals for a decade but now the palestinian groups fatah and hamas of reached a deal to makeup and Work Together egypt has been mediating the most recent talks in the relationship between the two factions soured in two thousand and six after hamas won the election and then sees gaza from fatah after a period of. Less cautious optimism about this latest agreement because weve been here before will this time be different tare force it has more on the deal for. In the occupied west bank. Well in a recorded statement it has been played on Egyptian Television weve heard from the two delegation heads and what appears to be the case is a disagreement among other things will center on the rafa crossing between egypt and gaza the Palestinian Authority delegation head saying that the p. A. Would assume full control of that of that of running that by november the first at the latest other things weve been hearing that thousands of hamas officials whove been providing Government Services in the ten years but they are at least some of them will be brought under the p. A. Or forty within the next four months and that some three thousand Palestinian AuthoritySecurity Officers they will be merged with the security that has been provided by hamas in gaza in the last ten years as for people in gaza theyre just desperate for this to work. When we used to hear about any reconciliation efforts we would think immediately of the failure of it but we hope this time is different unity could at least solve the power crisis and bring happiness to the gazan people. Weve had enough eleven years of suffering without electricity no medicine for people no traveling we want to live like other nations one question that remains open so far is the future of hamas military wing before these talks said that its fate was entirely off the table in these discussions with the palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas so that he wouldnt accept any lebanon style situation where theres a hezbollah equivalent providing an alternative center of political and a new military power in gaza or it may be that there is some less formal agreement in the works on that front those the indications that were sent in the run up to these talks whereby they would remain quiet underground and that if there were to be any use of military force in the future that would have to be the subject of National Consensus as far as the egyptians are concerned this is a success and they want the palestinian factions all of them to meet again in cairo on the van the twenty first sorry for that aljazeera for inside story in ramallah. Lets discuss all this now by bringing in our panel of guests in garza we have the senior hamas official arm abusive joining us from ramallah we have the former director of the Palestinian AuthorityGovernment Media CenterGhassan Khatib and from london we have years hed say year senior associate with the Carnegie Middle East Center welcome to you all lets talk first about what we know about the deal use if you represent hamas you know whats in this deal let me ask you possibly the most difficult question under this deal who is in control of your weapons who will be in command of your fighters the rest im a to some but Something Like twenty five thousand fighters and commanders tell me that key question. With the good intentions that we have right now between fact and have this kind of fair indorsement by the president we vote we should be called the palestinian would mean that one who are a part of the government should be under that footage of the Palestinian Government and that would be an if you are talking about. Resistance were been this is something is not on that even for discussion right now but if you are talking about that weve been for the people in. The guard the palestinian guard and National Palestinian police and Something Like this its all of their gun and that is their full authority of Palestinian Government. Specifically im asking specifically about what you describe as the resistance weapons because the Palestinian Authority president Mahmoud Abbas has said in just recent days he wants one state one regime one law one weapon and he said he wouldnt accept the reproduction in gaza of the hizbollah situation in lebanon with regard to your hamas weaponry isnt that what weve got. I think this is there is a contradictory between some of the statement coming is that from president in the way that the people try to miss and that is stand work that really has been agreed in cairo and two thousand and eleven which mean that that existence weapons is nothing on the table for discussion right now and this is what has been also many many of the people been at this this issue and seeing this is not right now for the discussion even. Delegation and also in all of those of hamas will be talking about this this is not on the table even the egyptian mediators internal look at the egyptian to look at also they have said this is up for discussion right now this is what has been talking about that would be this is the weapon that and that is the authority of the ministry of interior ok lets go to just keep in ramallah make it clear that you are not a spokesman now for the Palestinian Authority but you have been in the past and you know very much the thinking there in ramallah president a bastard and he wanted these weapons and fighters directly under Palestinian Authority control in principle in general. But i think that this issue is postponed at the moment because apparently in this phase of the internal negotiations the two sides have agreed on the gradual approach so there agreed on one thing as we know so far they agreed on the necessity that the government the the official person in the government of mahmoud the best would extend. Its responsibility under all into gaza so the civilian departments and the Government Departments would be unified according to what has been agreed on. Yet however the rest of the issues on the table. Such as the political agreement or disagreement and unifying the p. L. O. Such as the election for a future neurologist of concepts such as the thorny issue that you discussed with your guest from gaza the theres times where plans are to be discussed later and the new thing is that they seem to be trying to start with the easy thing and with the pressing thing from a humanitarian point of view and keep talking about the rest of the issues for the future. This will this is a practical approach that will probably help alleviate some of the suffering in gaza without linking everything together is either you hear a very gradual approach theyve done deals on the easy stuff but theyve left out some of the difficult parts some of the things that israel and the International Community demanded this isnt a complete deal is it. No of course not and that probably is necessary i. E. Trying to resolve everything is pretty much impossible its taken ten years so far and previous deals have sailed over this kind of thing furthermore a comprehensive deal here might then run into total israeli resistance or us objections and therefore i think the egyptian approach of sponsoring a partial process that will then lay the ground for the next step and then the third step does make more sense. Im reminded here of whats going on in syria where in a stand russia and turkey have gradually pulled in the Syrian Armed Opposition groups that are backed by the west among others into a process that focuses first on a ceasefire then on deployment of peace observers delivery of humanitarian assistance and that has put off the hardest political and other issues to the next stage and with every step these groups get pulled in further and further until it becomes harder to reverse course so in gaza too i think. Is how massless forward in the on this sort of track it down becomes harder for both hamas and its competitors fatah and the west bank to pull away the interesting thing here is if this is going to work and it means that egypt is really throwing its political weight behind to deal with israel i. E. Telling the israelis we want this to work youve got to stand back and let us make the first step work even if the weapons issue hasnt been resolved and that is going to be the most interesting thing here one of the questions of the day is have we been here before a mass unfasten have tried and failed to reconcile frequently over the past ten years saudi arabia was the first to draw broker peace between the two but a deal signed in mecca in two thousand and seven fell apart almost immediately a year later with yemens turn a mouse in fact a draw for the deal to revive direct talks. But never followed through the karo deal of twenty eleven was hailed as a landmark agreement but it didnt last long either and the doha deal signed in twenty twelve five years after the conflict started also collapsed many fell because of alleged pressure from the us israel and regional governments the most frequent the most recent was signed at the beach refugee camp in gaza three years ago without any arab mediation but after two years of trying to implement it it felt the way of the others. From. Whats different this time this different ten years of miserable lies internal conflict one way or another that the palestinian board in fact and how they feel lost and they lost that trust of of the people there. But be allowed it he had been decreased a lot and also there is now in the egyptian that sound like they are serious about. Solving the problem its as became a video to mediate or theyre trying to build the relation between fatah and hamas as theyve been playing a good into a look at order at all and it sound like that to that been people talking about it all the time and the intellectual and the elite saying that there is an american view too is that eight of you do it sound like there is something being done or cook for the future and it sounds like there is something being cooking and its needs that both palestinian be united and in doing their division and having and that is one president and one and one government that could tell if there is a peaceful settlement to the conflict this is the way theyre going to hand in it and also because the people the Palestinian People they lost especially a graduate student carrying guns are more than hundred thousand they lost any glimmer of hope and. About their future and begin thread and also what happened the Security Threat coming from the salafist you had this which being considered if it toward the National Palestinian hearing gars and also to the Egyptian National its considered a nationalist threat to the egyptian its became. If it we both egypt and gaza be in became yanni feel that this is syria that serious a threat and having a risk on both of us but let me just pick you up on something you said you said or seemed to suggest this could be part of something bigger do you have any evidence that this is being tied in with the egyptians possibly in coordination with the trumpet ministration is this part of the trump peace plan in your view you only some people from the elites political. Elites also talking there is something being cooking and it sounds like. Something needs to end that conflict on that issue and because there is another if it there with the ending with. Islamic state or what do you call it. This is the things there is something to be in the plan to in the conflict in that region and in doing that what they call their islamic if it in that region so there are people talking there are many issues to be in at this regarding this there are a ceratin a plan regarding the future of the bank and gaza being joined with the jordanian and Something Like this that people are talking behind the scenes that its sound that is something weve been cooking and the palestinian will be part of it but they have to come united not as divided. In ramallah something cooking are you hearing similar things that this could be not just a deal between fatah and hamas but could be part of a wider deal involving the americans involving the israelis i dubbed that very much there is a lot of rumors and speculation so you hear it from journalists and analysts but i dont think there is a ground for this because given the nature of the politics of the god of the current Israeli Government there is no room for any kind of. Compromise any kind of compromise because this Israeli Government is not prepared at all to give and take concerning the future of the palestinian occupied territories and i think that the American Administration is too busy with two other more pressing and dramatic fires in that hand therefore i dont think at all that this is going to be a part of anything bigger and probably this is only the Conspiracy Theory that is spreading or was very fast in this part of the world is either let me ask you more about the role of egypt in all this they seem to be the guarantor of this deal which was announced at dorm karo time in caro egypt and hamas is relationship has been somewhat complicated perhaps you describe it as being somewhat wary under mubarak then a mass which of course is a Muslim Brotherhood affiliate was very close with Mohamed Morsi is government after Mohamed Morsi is overthrown in july twenty thirty in how would you describe the evolving relationship between hamas and president c shes got it. Well clearly the relations were very bad for a long while theyve only started improving in the last few months one might say. And part of that i think is that the hamas leadership that badly misjudged just how favorable conditions were after the arab spring into twenty eleven and the arrival of them some brotherhood to power in egypt in twenty twelve its taken them a few years to rethink their overall approach and to understand that they simply have to patch up with the most powerful regional governments that affect them and thats egypt first and foremost because of the joint border but also saudi arabia and others in the gulf. But beyond that i think that whether its for egypt or for the mess and for president im bass in palestine and i think tactical considerations are dominant here we you know youve focused earlier on the question of how mass weapons and Assembly Gates and what happens to them under the deal that clearly is not resolved yet whether hamas will go further towards reaching some sort of formal peace deal with israel is another big question whether the u. S. Will allow any of this all of these are left unanswered and i dont think egypt has enough clout to either force the palestinians nor you know bring the israelis to the table for reasons at the same copy just explained i think adequately so so if he just knows that it can deliver an actual peace deal and the palestinians understand that they havent gone far enough amongst each other and that they can resolve these issues that probably means that everyone right now has very strong tactical reasons to get involved in a deal to go forward to stick to this deal to make it work and to make issues of daily life government the flow of goods and trade and credit bank star. Routes and so on to ease the crisis of geyser israel has an interest in that as well and therefore in a sense the more modest scenario suits everyones purpose and defers the issues that at the moment i dont think anyone is yet ready to do it. As you know when you say as you say is wrong and its very easy in a discussion like this to stick with the political and forget the real life of two Million People because the People Living in gaza have been caught in the middle of this rift between hamas and fatah the coastal enclave is currently controlled by hamas which is both the u. S. And the consider a terrorist organization the u. N. Says Living Conditions there have deteriorated in the past ten years because of the blockade by israel and egypt making matters worse president Mahmoud Abbas is predominately Fatah Movement which is based in the west bank has been using its administrative power to pressure in garza it cut the salaries of Government Employees living there and asked israel to reduce the Electricity Supply to the territory in the blazing heat this summer the power crisis was so bad garzas two million residents had as little as three hours of electricity a day armored youre there you live there how bad are things now. The situation is very very bad electricity we are talking about four hours and twenty four hours and also the medical supplies the hospital is very charitable so the people are really looking for something to see something facts on the ground and this where the people that some of them showing joy and happiness. Happiness for that they both agreed to sign the agreement in cairo hoping that to see facts on the ground on the next few days or weeks that people will see the city improve and also the people be able to travel across the. To travel through the crossing of egypt and things to be sound more easy and then life and also the student to feel in to feel or to see a glimmer of hope for do something troubling and seeking their bills through their future in a broad or Something Like this situation is still very very terrible and life People Living in very miserable life so i hope that. Their government will extend its support and help and really could be construction in. Their minister is to make it all functioning that we the people are seeing in the west bank is it i dont want to sound cynical but that also situation and the fact it seems so close to breaking point do you think that helps or hinders the steel. Its helped in the sense that the two main Political Parties couldnt go on ignoring the humanitarian plight of their own people it also means that. Unfortunately the success of this deal at least in its first phase hinges rather heavily on whether the u. S. The e. U. And others in the gulf in particular will back it up with increasing the flow of goods and people and credits into gaza which means getting israeli cooperation it also means that if the two Civil Services that time mass builds and of the p. A. Used to run in gaza if theyre to be merged and integrated then you need a financial package either to lay people off or to pay for the massive increase in the payroll and and already the Palestinian Authority stretched have masses effectively broke and so for even this simple innocuous kind of thing to happen. Other countries are going to have to step up and commit the sort of resources to make this work in the first phase to build confidence to build public support in gaza otherwise will simply be creating a lot of resentment a lot of disparity between those who are now back on the period of the Palestinian Authority versus those who used to be on the how mass burial and are receiving no salaries at all and since hamas used to prefer to the threat of such as you had as im in gaza and in sinai we could simply be pushing people into their arms and i think we need a clear unambiguous sort of commitment by the e. U. Us the Israeli Government and the g. C. C. To making this work because if they we go back to outcome outside terrorists we dont like that we wont deal with them we could end up really with a blocked situation that will simply collapse again. Go silent let me ask you you heard there the idea that other countries need to step up to treat the u. S. And the e. U. But even if they provide resources in the end its up to israel to let them into gaza how do you think the Israeli Governments going to react to this. Well if hamas will succeed in throwing this hot potato of the of governing gaza into the lap of the p. A. Then i think that there are certain serious obstacles for the success of the stars or one of it is the finances that refer to correctly but second the authority reality that is going to be faced in gaza and three the attitude of israel and their ited states in my analysis if the agreement will be limited by the civilian activities and by the Palestinian Government trying to contribute to alleviating the suffering in gaza and defuse the growing tension and prevent a possible explosion then i think that both israel and the united states. Will have no problem with this but the minute they cross the border into security or political agreements that will really end this split in the political sense i think that israel will start to put obstacles because israel is very comfortable with the current political split between fatah had have as between west bank and gaza thank you garceran and thank you to all our guests are made use of their son khateeb and years eed so a year of thank you to you too for your time if you didnt catch all the program you can watch it again on the web at aljazeera dot com if you have views on hamas and fatah and the deal go to our facebook pages facebook dot com forward slash a. J. Inside story also on twitter our handle is at a. J. Inside story tell us about todays program or what we should discuss next time but for me and all the teams goodbye for now. 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