Say spaces are being created for revenge of children inside bangladeshi refugee camps where their families have fled to escape the violence in myanmar hundreds of ring my fijis are lining up to receive aid at a camp just across the border. Thats all for now but inside story is next dont go away. With the with youths. Whos committed war crimes in yemen the u. N. Has agreed to send a team to investigate but how much is politics played in this decision and who will hold those responsible for human rights abuses to account this is inside story. With. With a law and seek a welcome to the program has taken weeks of intense negotiations but now the United Nations has agreed to set up an investigation into alleged Human Rights Violations in yemen some European Countries and canada wanted a commission of inquiry but a compromise with a group of arab states including saudi arabia was reached Yemeni Government forces backed by a Saudi Led Coalition have been fighting the rebels since twenty fifteen katia lopez hold diane sets up a discussion. The decision has been described as a game changer the Uns Human Rights Council will send a delegation to investigate a possible war crimes in yemen more than ten thousand civilians have died since the countrys devastating war started in two thousand and fifteen and that number could rise the International Community faces several urgent tasks in yemen including the protection safety and security of civilians the u. N. Delegation is expected to investigate attacks on schools markets and even hospitals final between harvey rebels and a Saudi Led Coalition which sides with president. Condi has torn the country the commission will also investigate attacks carried out by the rebels i think that the point becomes one of does the International Community stand by the laws that it puts. All yemeni lives as valuable as any other lives the decision was met with resistance a last minute compromise between western powers and arab countries including saudi arabia eventually made it possible experts say blocking the investigation could have led to more unwanted attention where you see mansingh pressure at the International Level for this to go ahead at a p. R. Level that the u. S. The u. K. Saudi arabia whove been instrumental in the past really looking at this kind of investigation going ahead would struggle to justify their reasons for doing so right now. Along with the war an estimated twenty million yemenis continue to go hungry and a nationwide cholera epidemic is ravaging the country since april more than two thousand people have died from the illness the red cross believes there could be a million cases of suspected cholera by the end of the year but access to treatment is limited santas airport is completely sealed off. Only three planes roughly are entering the i. C. R. C. Plane and a seven un plane and no other plane is coming in even planes that could do some humanitarian transfer of patients that want to get treatment abroad or Something Like that this is not possible so you dont have access to drugs and you cannot go out. To war in yemen is showing no signs of ending but the Uns Human Rights Council hopes the investigation will lead to a greater level of accountability on all sides can see a local civilian aljazeera. So who are the parties involved in yemens conflict well first the rebels named after the man who led the rebellion in two thousand and four hussein and who today are backed by supporters of former president Ali Abdullah Saleh they are shia and have the support of iran who these are up against Government Forces aligned with president adorable months old hedi and a coalition of nine mostly Sunni Arab States led by saudi arabia and the coalition has received logistical and intelligence support from the u. S. The u. K. And france both sides are accused of Human Rights Violations. Lets bring in our guests now joining us from yemens capital sanaa is hakim a must mahdi editor in chief of the yemen post from london sami ham the editor of the International Interest and from bull must also in the u. K. Rocco bloom of conflict the conflict and humanitarian policy adviser at war child good to have youll with us so rocco bloom let me start with you then you welcome this decision we certainly do this is blown over due to human rights abuses are being recorded by credible humanitarian organizations by the un for the last two years now we have a mechanism providing a Crescent Development scrutiny and this will enable International Community to make some very strong decisions as to how to proceed with dealing with the colonies the conflict in the ward never the fear is though rocco bloom is that this is a this might be a watered down commission thats been put together. To keep saudi arabia happy and if thats the case can it be an honest and far reaching investigation well its true that the original resolution that was then proposed by. The dutch to the Human Rights Council was a commission of inquiry which would have looked more deeply into International Humanitarian rule which is another layer of. Kind of legal description of what is happening in yemen right now this group of experts however will still be able to have full access to recall to call them and monitor the situation certainly amongst human rights and humanitarian organizations we feel very strongly that this is a watershed sami hamdi what do you make of this decision. I think that to be honest the problem is when were talking about the human rights abuses or the war crimes or humanitarian crisis and not to demean its its severity it is a very serious crisis i think its like a doctor looking at the symptoms as opposed to the disease now i had the previous guest talk about it would help the International Community decide how to deal with the parties lets remember what exactly is going on in yemen this is a militia that marched from southern in the north took over two cities in the north stormed the capital put the government under house arrest is now occupying the capital and tried to seize the entire country by force for me is pretty clear what the stance of the International Community should be it should be to ask to go back to sardar so there could be room for a National Dialogue the problem with calling for this particular inquiry into human rights abuses is that this is precisely what the horses want a Community International pressure on saudi arabia on saudi arabias airstrikes in yemen because that would force saudi arabia to the negotiating table while coffee is still in summer and if that happens then the terms dictated on the table will be by horsy under former president Ali Abdullah Saleh and not saudi arabia in essence and i know this is not the intention behind the investigation we are inadvertently legitimizing a military coup from a militia and we should be asking serious questions as to what message is being sent out when the International Community believes that both of the parties are equal and the government of abdullah by months or heady instead of saying that the please lets get a political settlement and then lets deal with these very serious human rights issues that have come about as a result of your machinations and your occupation of the cities in yemen but this investigation sami hand the is going to look at abuses by all sides and the fact is that most of the suffering of the yemeni people has been since the saudi led. Bombing campaign which began in march of twenty fifteen eight thousand over eight thousand five hundred people have been killed since that time i agree that this humanitarian situation is severe but as i said its a symptom and not the disease if you want to see the International Communitys failure as it is in the fact that when the arab ambassadors withdrew when the arab nations redo their ambassadors when we entered sun our john kerry of the United States seemed to suggest that course he could be a credible partner in the fight al qaeda the International Community has failed time and time again to apply the correct and proper condemnation of whats happened in yemen that a militia marched from the north and occupy the capital and tried to kick out a government that was agreed upon in the National Dialogue by the legitimate parties in yemen if you want to deal with the humanitarian crisis if you want to stop the killing if you want to stop the innocent children who are suffering from the famine the solution is clear who feel withdraw from sinai and allow a genuine peace and peace talks and negotiations to take place lets just remember quickly just on this point lets just remember quickly that but for the saudi intervention and it pains me dearly the fact that i have to provide some sort of justification for this savages the intervention that has demonstrated incredible incompetence but lets state the facts as it is but for the saudi intervention today you would be talking about yemen and you would have entered the addon and the International Recognized government would have disappeared or i we can we can get into some of the politics. More detail a bit later but i want to turn now to marty whats been the reaction to this decision in yemen. Total shock right now when you have now first of all why you are the International Community or neighboring countries are turning this into a political issue well its not a political issue this is a right if you decide to violate human rights or a kills or attack civilians are. She should be condemned whether its the who these or the saudi collision so this is not political this is more of a rights issues and focusing on the civilians and those who have been attacked those who are of the wedding sides if you are fighting the militants and not the civilians then you have nothing to worry about so the problem is this idea that coalition has mostly damaged the civilians and not the who these are who these are as strong as ever today inside the capital sanaa yes they are militants yes it was a chaotic when they entered the other capital sun and taken over but the people inside or and who controlled areas dont respect the who these because. For who they are but because of their support of the who these because of the saudi war crimes against the civilians which we hope. I go away i get both sides have violations against human rights and this committee should should investigate both all sides i think it seriously it is not political it should be for the people for those who are suffering and not for those political factions that are fighting and destroying yemen day by day and whats the situation like in in yemen right now what whats life like for people there. As unbelievable its hard to explain when you can see it. By your i mean the poverty in yemen right now the hunger the people that are dying starving last year it was children eat one meal a day today its not only children its its barely a meal a day and not only millions over between ten to twenty million families and those salaries the sea johnny yemen right now the airport closure. The siege has killed over ten thousand people for those who are trying to get medical treatment abroad so its not only the war its the siege as well its the epidemic right now that by the end of the year there will be over a million cases of suspected cases of coleader in yemen so its a devastating situation where you cannot explain it just by doing an interview while you see the sufferings of these daily people and the problem is its not the who these who are suffering its the millions of civilians who are living in yemen who are suffering whether under. Areas controlled by saudi a coalition or under the hood these. Gloom does that fit in with the reports that youve been getting about that the impact of this war on civilians in yemen. Absolutely i think both speakers are indicating the severity of the crisis. Situation is unprecedented it is the Worlds LargestFood Security crisis right now and. The Food Security crisis the medical crisis is this cholera epidemic is manmade riccati to the conflict have the power to end the humanitarian blockade and create the conditions where this crisis can get and i agree with the second speaker that you had saying that this this is a crisis that being generated by the parties the conflict and the humanitarian crisis is a consequence is a consequence and bass to be a political solution but this investigation needs to provide the evidence that will allow the International Community to act as i say the evidence has been there for a long time but we need to have a point at which theres a consensus that this can no longer go on and i must say unsleeping as you are sitting in the u. K. Right now the British Government is directly supporting the saudi arabia through massive arms sales around six billion pounds worth of arms were sold and so i was in contact was also excited arabia in the second two years of the conflict the International Community is dont directly involved in this crisis and its not just the parties on the ground that have to act every country thats directly or indirectly involved has to change that idea and sammy handy has saudi arabia taken on more than he bargained for here when he began this. Bombing campaign when he led this Bombing Campaign more than more than two years ago and here we are still talking about the war in the end the suffering of people there is there a way out of this. Lets remember that when a german of the nasser in egypt during the sixtys was involved in the yemen war he struggled to take down the Opposition Forces yemen is a very difficult place to fight in in two thousand and nine princella been sort of saudi arabia was famously defeated by the when i say defeated not necessarily militarily but the government came to an agreement by horses with regards to protecting the border near. The reality is yes the saudis have bitten off more than they can chew yemen is known as a graveyard of armies but the fact of the matter is this is this is the reason why i say that we have to look at yemen as a wider issue and why insist that humanitarian issue is a symptom of the disease because when entered sign up remember there was no military intervention from any particular party it was all a go she ations applying pressure trying to find some sort of solution one coffee then much to my job it was the same thing when jose marched to the south it was the same thing when they took over to is it was the same thing only when it got to the gates of addon and saudi arabia saw that the International Community were doing nothing to stop the advance of this militia and im not saying saudi arabia necessarily cares about yemen its more worried that yemen will become an iranian proxy but only when who thieves threaten hadnt which was the final stronghold and had taken it would have succeeded in taking over yemen thats one saudi got involved in other words saudi feels that its hand was forced it didnt want to get involved in yemen in this manner in the first place and it is because of the airstrikes and because of its intervention that you got driven back to sanaa as i said the army has demonstrated its incompetence with regards to the proof of that is the call incredible Collateral Damage and this horrible humanitarian crisis when you talk about i have some damage as youre getting about innocent civilians being killed i mean this is this is a turn signal that we used by a minute theyll treat officials. Exactly this is to me that this is what they refer to as Collateral Damage the innocent children being killed the women the building the infrastructure that nobody is going to invest in rebuilding after them theyve sent yemen backwards many many decades but my issue is this when we focus on the humanitarian crisis and human rights and it deserves specific attention i agree the problem is this feeds into the propaganda what cause the wants to achieve both it believes that this humanitarian crisis is in his favor the cause is believe that as long as the humanitarian crisis continues International Attention will force the to the negotiation table in other words the hoses are saying as long as we can hold on to sign out as long as we can stay in the capital we dont need any other territory just the capital the International Community the u. N. There are investigations will force saudi arabia to bend over and come to us on the negotiating table and when they do that the terms of those in goshen to go shooting table will be ours if the Intelligence Community is concerned about human rights if they really want to deal with this humanitarian situation i argue the solution is simple ask coffee to leave sonar push horse coffee out of sunna take away all these power cards force horsy to the table as an equal member of the not so this of the Islamic Party of all the time of all the other different Political Parties because right now the balance is very uneven between the other parties and i need some sort of lets say victory in order to solve this humanitarian crisis lets get. View on that based on what youre seeing there is this something that that could happen in the future i mean who who is in control of yemen right now if you have me side controls their own territory what the International Media does not understand or the our viewers do understand that over the last eighteen months no side has gained ground militarily. Those who did gain ground lost it and gained it again and we took it etc so there has been no victories on the ground over the last eighteen months by both sides so its clear that this cannot be solved militarily and out. The who is paying the price the civilians theyre the ones who are suffering and not the who these are who these control of government the saudis have the wealth each side has a territory they control in yemen and dont care of this war continues for you know ten years because theyre not suffering its the people who are still in the millions who are suffering and thats why this work should come to an end and the sad thing is that the entire year of two seventeen has not seen any un peace talks or activities or mediation is. By any International Community or International Power or the un and so the year that millions thought could be hope for yemen is a year that saw no negotiations no hope and. It also hurts the cause when they who refuse to negotiate or deal with the the un and want to serve and to get what i say were not here to blame besides were here to make solutions there needs to be a solution because its clear that over eighteen months no mail in the no side has been able to gain militarily but to get to get back to sami hand these point did do the need to make some concessions year to to really get a get towards finding a political solution to this oh yes they have to. They really need to make concessions and people were hoping last month when the g. P. C. More time out of party led by the expresident they were supposed to announce their own initiative which could come out with a solution to end this war but that the internal crisis between the who these and the. Party led by the expresident was very tense which forced them with a lot of to step aside so this was a very strong backlash for peace talks but i do blame the who these for this but also blamed the more time out for not being clear and transparent during their announcement for the. Their own initiative so theres a lack of trust either. In the sinai is the who these are the the more time of g. P. C. And also lack of trust between the saudi allies saudi arabia and the u. A. E. And the Yemeni Government in aden its clear that president hadi has had numerous issues with the. Government authorities in aden so this. The longer this war continues the more complicated it will get all sides need to give in to each other reach a solution to what is need to hand over weapons and retreat from the main cities which they and nationally accepted to do according to the previous peace talks in kuwait with the u. N. Envoy so there are strides how they were worse right happening in the last peace talks in kuwait but again were after one year of no talks many things reached a stalemate and this only heard the solution more time do you are response and i was i was going to say that the one thing i agree with ninety nine percent of what the guest has said but theres only one thing that i disagree with he said the issue should not be as to applying blame to which size but to find a solution i argue that the absence of a solution is because we have not applied the correct blame on the appropriate party at the end of the day we are preaching Democratic Values human rights and the like we have a gui had the government under president of the number of months sort of heady that was agreed upon by the National Dialogue who through use his weapons and kicked out this government please explain to me how on earth we cannot apply the blame on ruthie for the terrible crisis that yemen is going through who think need on an agreement made by the National Dialogue and kicked out the government that had led to the saudi airstrikes that led to humanitarian crisis that led to the death of innocent children that led to famine that led to cholera that led to one of the greatest humanitarian crisis of our modern time go the solution should be who should respect the National Dialogue agreement should retreat back to side that come to the negotiating to negotiating table as one side of another it is this very attitude that was expressed by. But by the speaker just before by the honorable guest from sanaa that has resulted in horses confidence and defiance of the u. N. Resolution to disarm and on any attempts to achieve to sun up because when you apply the same sort of scrutiny to saudi arabia as you do to cause the you put them on a living Playing Field in other way that in other words there is no right party the wrong party in this is whos the host who should retreat from the sun or if the International Community was unable to see this and it hasnt said this that it has in a place the pressure then we will never find a solution to this all right i want to give the last word then to rockall bloom and bring this back to the to the u. N. Led investigation they have a year or two to come back with a report on this are you confident that something meaningful will will arise from that but this record isnt provides an opportunity that we havent had before i have already passed investigation but what i would say is that we have already had we already have a huge amount of evidence of human rights abuses by the onset of the conflict and they have every right now the threat of terrorism is happening right now and the cost to the conflict and their International Support is bust and this conflict as soon as possible we believe its very important the American Interest we cant wait for another year for action to be taken all right and on that we have to leave it thank you to all three of you have given muslim audience and sami handy in london and rocco in former thanks very much for being on inside story. And thank you as always for watching remember you can watch this program again any time by visiting our website c. N. N. 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