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That is to say that we did ration presidency in any government apart from the president. For disgusted by. Sea. A bill to scrap constitutional age caps on politicians in uganda has put democracy to the test. The and. The us. These are just some of the scenes from parliament on tuesday as that bill came under debate parliamentarians hurled chairs and swung microphone stands exposing a bitter rift between lawmakers m. P. s from the opposition have vowed to fight the amendment apparently ugandan law prevents anyone over the age of seventy five from running for office the Ruling National Resistance movement is looking to amend that provision to prevent discrimination in politics the president s party enjoys an overwhelming majority in the assembly and the bill is expected to pass president Yoweri Museveni has been in power since one nine hundred eighty six hes largely dismissed the amendment and chided other leaders who refused to leave office where he is speaking to al jazeera in april the reward been lifting me in this by two more years you know. Are you going to run for another term. Not going to run for another term fall off because you reach the age limit in three years and you will not follow the course that somebody can you explain that doesnt have told you but there are reports that you are about to change the constitution so that it can allow you to run for another term told you its not going to happen and well follow the constitution over uganda and what you do with the people are you going to change the constitution i cannot change the constitution because i dont tell that poll but is this something that is in the discussion or in uganda that is speculation and targeting for speculation. Joining us now jackson to for you see is a member of parliament south bobby wine is an opposition member of parliament for east uganda raymond junee is a journalist for in t. V. And john m. Back who is professor of economics at Weber State University in ogden utah welcome to the stream gentlemen bobbie im going to start here on my laptop with a Facebook Post put out by members of your team yesterday at eleven nineteen a ruthless wrap up by state operatives of the Parliament Today you other honorable members were detained in police vans and driven to separate Police Stations right now hes in custody the Police Station so you were just released from jail in the early hours of thursday tell us about what happened during that scuffle in parliament from your perspective. Well on tuesday one of the members of parliament came into the chamber to the ground on the right one and she will be one of the members great than a lamb and all of our weapons so a scuffle broke out and i made it that. They made a gun to. Pick up not where the house could not continue because marketers are up to it and it was just so on wednesday that because i came and indeed compounded that the owner go. I had to come in and include your teaching so you would get spending but surprisingly even we remember the great concern for spending so we were not allowed to say anything even when the right to object read speak up give us back to me not to. Get out of the chamber weve been less than two minutes soldier stormed the Parliament Soldiers from the special forces command. In leeds brigade that got the president and came started wrapping up members of the opposition and they need beating us up so we had to put up by because there were too many a car that drives us out touch our allies and then. Doctors and police ones and drove us and detained us for a. While dropped off at our homes so clearly a very serious situation but take a look at my laptop here and there are ugandans on twitter who are finding the levity and all of this a few quick means here with your face photo shopped over other peoples issue in a fighting ring here is you looking like rambo or a bad. Movie and this one on top of doing some fighting with a heart attack dont touch it meaning to the president ial age limits so levity on line but this is a serious issue why is it so important to you probably one will article one zero two is very important because now it is the only lasting remy do we have peaceful transition of power needless to mention that uganda has neighbor had a peaceful transition of power from one to another and indeed thats one of the reasons that raised in massive in the bush because he promised a fundamental change promised real democracy and when he won power people then joined him promised. And hand over power to a civilian government. Since then he has been cooking a new lie every time expires for the last thirty one yes and today. We need. Mandatory. Expire he is moving together with his party to amend the constitution while i will be president for life. Right so id like to get you into the conversation raymond youre a journalist whos been covering this story take a look at this tweet we got from hannah she says leave the constitution as it is to change it to suit one man is unpatriotic and selfserving shes implying that this changes all forms seventy she says i love my uganda but hate my government raymond what are you hearing what are what is the reaction been to this proposal to remove age limits. Before we get to the reaction i think its for going to expose as you need to know that you can as well as one of the youngest populations in the world but also you have only two point seven percent about populations actually above the age of sixty five and the number of people that have actually seen a presidency that is not my seventies presidency im not even more than twelve percent and part of those things that many people fear is that we might have another. Transition of power thats not peaceful and so the guns that are left in the constitution for peaceful transfer of power right now theres only one and thats one of the seventy five limit well it doesnt that the president has said that this doesnt solve it in fact he has and i know that existence of this is the last time he spoke about it was somewhere on july nineteenth when you say that there was no motion to bit so there was not a need for us to talk about its limit but again more of that a lot of pushing for eight people from the ruling party and the ruling but he has a caucus a caucus which he is the chairman of so there is already at the heart of it at the heart of the matter many people say that sixty five and indeed will survive if it passes the president of the country right now and the moment when we are being done also raises bit of of question we saw yesterday that people well that came into parliament to take on. The members of parliament that had been stuck in parliament the members that you saw walk into parliament and. I actually members of the elite of the president ial special forces command. Many of them their faces have been highlighted close to the president on many occasions guiding him and then of course the parliament rules of procedure clear that if a member of parliament was been suspended doesnt leave the house then it falls upon the sergeant of arms. So it remains a big question why the sergeant of arms who was present then was not allowed to do their job and then of course we had to take extra security from the president to come and lift members of parliament out but of course on the streets he remains a very contentious much of the ruling but he has numbers in the house they have about three hundred and the evidence they have peace and the independence of sixty six i think forty eight of the sixty six independent m. P. s are in the room and it was just us fifty six so if it comes down to a game of number the opposition doesnt stand a chance and the education that you see from the opposition to stop it in its early stages is that it shouldnt get down to a game of numbers because they will lose their ok so i hear what youre saying ram and i want to bring in a member of the president s ruling in our in Party Jackson youre joining us now can you lay out your partys case for supporting this bill and listened to my colleagues or listen when i watch our money. We are making amendments to suit the needs of the president so i keep telling my colleagues that and they did say i didnt think they should have given two books one would please no rules of procedure of parliament the second one is the constitution you are expected to read it out translation and. Of course you should know was promoted in one thousand nine hundred five in a november and a constitutional law and of course usually its a living thing it must not be a region but must also not be very flexible must be adaptable it must allow for i mean even i to quote two fifty nine of our constitution. Provides that our constitution. And states procedures. And jackson i appreciate that you are a lawyer and so youre coming at this with a legal perspective but for our audience who is watching in uganda who are lawyers and they know their constitution they know the articles they know that it is a living document and can be amended what they want to hear from you is why do you think that these age limits should be scrapped lets say im getting like. You see. It the three of our constitution says you cannot stand for l o c five or district chairperson unless you are thirty five years of age and yet this simple Institution Says as long as you like eighteen years and you cant stand for me now that alone is disenfranchising the us who would be really what spirit in leadership i think a lot of us our democratic principles i think those that want to. Indicate told me that we shall do all that it takes to create an all inclusive political process so that everyone but it spits now youre telling me its not even trying. If i. Could jump in jump in here but. I dont know any of us are asking is it just now. Many of these i didnt. Know it was that he said for a man i dont hear hear your question i said ill be right i was probably right also raising his hand he wants to respond i want to get out i want to get our community i want to get our community because theyre also listening to jackson go ahead dan so weve got. Jackson just take a listen to this tweet and a video comment ill pose them to you so infamous as first it was term limits now its age limits next year it will be the president ial election scrapped off and then i want you to take a listen to this video comment we got from rose garden but lives in sweden right now president seventy removed already is the usual time limit thats when ugandans are willing to fight on this one its like its the only thing separating them from if i decide before they want this to me because as long as the president s image on the ballot we have had so many elections that are not free and fair given we know that its never going to be free and fair if they come in the first seventy in particular who has the interest for thirty one he is still on the ballot so this is about the future of uganda so jackson this is what were hearing people are worried they saw the grabber government scrapped term limits in two thousand and five and now they see this proposal to get rid of age limits as just further entrenchment seventies power and a possible president for life what do you say to that concern jackson you. Know your lectures in two thousand and one. You into this and say that that you should this. May be a good mandation which you are not followed by the government. In two thousand and six sam disprove the court did not put those recommendations in effect now in two thousand and sixteen a members went to court and fired a petition and this state. Because. It had been ignored by government sit down rule does and say these should be put in effect within two yes from the time of erections. From the time of the swearing in and as we speak now we are left with six months to go past the deadly sit by the spill now but. You had something to that. We cant. Listen when we link talks in one second on your air coming from bobby or hands free. For the benefit of our people listening in uganda under a lot of the world we are talking about article one zero two b. And b. This is an article that limits the president ial age limit yet you are talking about. Discrimination but i mean the constitution is twenty two years old it has never come up until now when president museveni is being excluded by the no the same thing happened when president was seven was finishing his second term in power that is when the Ruling Party Members to scrap of term limits and now they are trying to scrap of the age thing you see it is rather shameful for a lawyer like my brother jackson a fool to try and mix up issues were not talking about l. Z. Five we are talking about president ial and if you are trying to you know hide behind the youth then its even more shameful because we are looking at the youth and the taking for change and this is the only opportunity to have another generation over from the older generation peacefully. Oh you know. Right now id like to just get in and bring in some more comments were getting from the ugandans online and id like to pose this to raymond youre a minute to take a look at this tweet that we got jackson just hold on raymond so tony says i was there and this was a university protest by the way he says i was there and he saw a tear gas Police Brutality as arrests were made he said he was able to take this picture and then we also got piper who said that at this university protest Security Forces treated whoever they met as a criminal its like it was a crime to be born on campus that day raymond can you explain to me can you describe to me what kind of reaction were seeing from the authorities when students have gathered to protest this proposal to remove age limits. Well their reaction has been the same everyone that has come up to protest. This particular removal of michael want to be has been arrested now its laws that hopper just forty eight have not been arrested weve seen their protest march through our town have seen them much through town in the months through college town and this i think different times not different places in come busses Like Macquarie University but when you bust all that they went by them and was having a scuffle that you just described many of the students. In it up in being arrested or being brutally hundred im not kidding right now as we speak we still have military camp there and so it does raise a lot of questions about the behavior of the Security Forces but these are questions that have been persistent about oh yes she was a country that the Security Forces always opt for and on behalf of the person that is in power and your position is raise that a couple of times i want to be to respond also to to the lawyer about. The Supreme Court which should now the Supreme Court may actually get a pardon there rehman because when you mention Supreme Court petition i know that a lot of eyes glaze over in our International Community and i know that john wanted to get in as well so john what did you want to add were. I had to put it this way but i think. What people of uganda are going through is not unique to uganda a lot of african countries are going through the same problem and i think part of the reason theyre going through this problem is that theyre looking at their own problems im afraid to say that they ugandans currently looking at the wrong problem because they have term limits the president is a change that. They had they have actually made the president and his party are now trying to change that so i think that what do you can and should be talking about right now which is what i think what african countries. Should be talking about is how to make sure that the constitution cannot easily be manipulated by whoever i said government to suit themselves i think that even if. Their ugandans eventually win this case and i love to say that theres no reason why someone coming in even after seventy would not try to do the same thing and change limits so bad it could stay in power indefinitely so i think that the discussion that we should be having is a discussion on how to make sure that we have a constitution in uganda that cannot easily be manipulated by whoever is in government so that they can. Tweak the constitution dimmit dont miss this second thing that i want to talk about or i want to say it very broadly is that people uganda and people in all african countries sure understand why it is and this is said to put limits on the under president. Is to encourage political competition in countries that have seen where there are no limits on the presidency young people eventuality become so discouraged that they have no interest in politics because and know that the person in power is going to stay there as you see in ramadan a definite. This john i just like i just like to get a comment and and read it for bobbie why and we got this comment from you donny barnes as a two term limit as a must to ensure a peaceful transition of power where seventy is making himself i can bobby wine what would you like to see done to rectify the situation as here actually i would like to see if he didnt must have been respect hes what he has always been saying and if you yes nita. Or if i ask he was uganda this place where you were listening to all of us all of us which every other person is not going to an adequate you should. Comicon solution area but it just whichever whoever is weaving and their book is free to contest why do you see the. President if you really kind of get you want to come on well where you cannot be president must have been at their peril because elections are not free and fair just. In two thousand and sixteen we went to the ballots you saw it as clearly as i saw it that it was rigged the military took over all polling stations. When they wina doctor who was incarcerated at his house are not even allowed to go and be dishing the results of the election so you realize that for as long as president most seventy is on the ballot the election is just a formality that is why we are seeing is that you know. Only four minutes of. Content if it under the performance of one of the incumbent so that if people are grieving that i mean its abilities they give you another time if they dont actions do you know all this well judge and i know thats a thats a good question theyre doing thing and the president is going to run again in twenty twenty one i can not say yes or no because thats a personal choice it is up to him to make that choice while sat down fortunate id like to give the last word to community we got this tweet from r k and uganda he says this is the fork in the road where the end around lots of ruling party can either choose and organize the first trans a peaceful transition or have history repeat itself interesting comment bobbie one i will give you the very last word in about twenty seconds we know that this bill is expected to pass because the ruling party has a majority in parliament what happens next on your end. Well. It does not say that its better but one what is mine in uganda. Say thats not true he said people will be history so in order to avoid the repudiation of marquee history it is important for president museveni to give you a gun and a gate and we give to the peaceful transition of power and we need given a game or a beautiful legacy as a no but you need it. There in the conversation will continue with the hash tag hash tag stream thanks to our gas and our community for pitching the show well see online. Ever since i was a little boy in india my dream was to make bollywood films so five years ago i decided i was finally going to do it one mans quest to realize a lifelong ambition the story i choose to lose my one village and its transformation going behind the lens thats going to missing brings his personal story to life. Aljazeera correspondent my own private bollywood at this time. 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