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Unlike some, I'm not prepared to write them off totally yet. I think even the best sides now are perhaps more prone to some particularly bad days, albeit not the four stinkers the Saints have turned in thus far.
But there is a disturbing similarity starting to emerge for St Kilda, and it's with the Brisbane team which made finals in 2009. They promptly loaded up on senior trade-ins from other clubs, only to nosedive into a mediocrity from which it didn't emerge for nearly a decade.
Like the Saints last year, the Lions managed to win an elimination final, before being found well short of the mark in a semifinal loss. Still, the club was understandably optimistic about the future.