Glatkov, to the smallest. The snow queen. Tell me, did your youngest son watch all the childrens performances in your theater . Yes, we have people watching all the time, and even several times, moreover, they go here in america too, we, we travel with him , he watches everything everywhere, he had an idea, he says, let s put it on, dad, he was 6 years old, lets put on a cold heart, and then i i havent watched it and i dont even know what it is, i havent read fairy tales, i say, what a cold heart, he says, well, how come you dont know, and that means, here i am. I came up with a plot, how to stage it, even actors, because he loves the theater, ours, he knows the actors very well, all of them, yeah, he says, come on like this, i say, ok, lets write a play together, well, hes aiming to direct , as i understand it, i dont know, im calm, i dont teach him anything in particular, youre a young father, yes, its true, we once had dinner with robert denira, when he was born to me, only i told him that maybe i was wrong, that at that age. Im giving birth, and he shows me his daughter on the phone, here i am, and i was 60 then , Something Like seven, five, six, and he says, but im 74, look, my daughter is 5 years old, so you still have it should, but i havent had a baby yet, he just recently had a daughter , yeah, and youre already 80, and what difference does it make to be a young dad, now, when you re young, you dont understand what its like. Uhhuh, you underestimate this gift from god, because a child is a miracle, its magic, its not clear that its an inexplicable miracle, in youth, you think, well, its a party, everything is fine, were hanging out rock roll, so i really regret that i havent given enough love, maybe, well, maybe ive given enough love, ive devoted enough time to my children, i have three children. That is, there is also a son artyom and there is also a daughter masha, the eldest masha , who now already has three granddaughters of mine, that is, three daughters , she has three daughters, these are my three granddaughters, i was a little scared, here is a young boy who is a hooligan, you spoil , of course, yes, i look at you, listen to you, and i understand that time is on your side, not only on mine, time is on the side of those who live honestly from the heart. Lets get high together, i even i wrote this song, by the way, it s also included in this album fly, that s the name of time on my side, lets have it lets listen, time is on my side, stas namins group on the podcast 20 years later. Previously, when i was young, something didnt work out for me, i was upset, and even angry, the whole world was not a joy for me, but my friend knew an important secret, how not to waste my nerves , he smiled at all people answer, and a quiet song, a simple one, time is on my side, time is on my side, time is on my side. Time is on my side. We are sincere, you are in your heart, and if your thoughts are beautiful, rest assured, everything the grind is over, its time to arrange everything fairly, do everything according to my hearts, and dont forget the wise advice. The best remedy instead of worry, you smile, you smile, sing back , time is on my side, time is on my side, time is on my side, time is on my side, time is on my side, on my side. Hello everyone, this is a free program podcast, im maxim tronkov, and for me personally, our most longawaited guest, the great tatyana antolyevna tarasova. Hello, tatyana anatolyevna, hello maxim, thank you very much for such a performance, i will try, thank you for honoring us with your presence and i will try today, and so will i, tatyana antolyevna tarasova is a name that for. All, probably our tv viewers, is hardly not synonymous with figure skating, my name, every time it is pronounced, i think that people who love sports and ice remember my father, the great coach, coaching genius, anna vladimirovich tarasov, and we do this we try, but tatyana anatolyevna, im like about something, naturally yours too, and as in something, in almost everything, i am your student, i can say that for me you are a coaching genius, you are a worthy daughter of your father, an excellent accomplished specialist, the most famous name in figure skating, i tried dont let us down, this is what is happening now, all these considerations of the case of kamilla valieva, a statement, i also said today, they are considering something that does not need to be considered, because there is no case there, and the girls are only ruining our lives, but the girls most importantly, i dont understand what they want, of course, they want geniuses like her, because she really is a genius, she seems to be able to do anything, she was born with it, you cant teach what. They want it to be born in their countries, but it wasnt in our country, because if we have it in our country, we will always defeat them, but while we cannot win, we still cannot, let alone not win, we cannot even open the door there, say hello to everyone, you can say hello to each other, let us have more competitions this year, so that we can somehow go through this difficult year with our eyes closed, where we will not accept. I dont know what else theyll come up with for us, well, this is already the second season, this is the second season, but there is some way out, how can we coaches develop athletes in these circumstances, we coaches need to teach, develop in this way, we all know what they are doing in the world that we do, we generally have always been the first discoverers, in many forms, thats right, we came up with new elements, we will do this and come up with something else. An athlete needs to learn and develop. This is a profession. Yes, but now they wont go to international competitions, but there will be time , they will go, but lets not sit for 10 years if they dont come up with something else, what else can we come up with . I dont know, just cross us out altogether, well, as much as possible, it means well play at our place, but will it be interesting, it s always been interesting. Now wasnt it interesting, the National Team was skating now and there were test skates, isnt that interesting, but i couldnt sleep afterwards, so what . You remember most of all what kept you awake were some skates that were, oh, what, and this is still september, and no one would, dont be shy, call everyone by their proper names, whoever remembers you, not i can call you by your own names, do you know why . Because its only september, yes, october begins, well, then lets do it differently, who for september, at this moment was remembered by tatyana anatelevna tarasova, or maybe some kind of figure skating is ready better than another, we have four of them while youre thinking, youre still thinking there will be some, synchronized skating is still there, but well, well wait. Although we have it in the country, we have it, yes, another one, you want, right with the last names, well, i really liked baykovo and kozlovsky, i didnt expect such skating from them, why did they win the whole last season all the starts, yes, but they were different, they were alive, they liked what they were doing, they showed everything that during this time, how they were, they left the coach, moved to another coach, yes, to the whole team coaches and they they wanted to show it, that this is how they became, they did it, this is how they do the elements, this is how they jump, this is how they jump, this is how they do lifts, everything was like this, it was cool, well, i think that anyway , without Tamara Nikolaevna moskvinas baggage it would have been impossible, it would have been impossible, i say, from tamara in her work, she is number one in the world, we dont have any other way for coaches, well, they went for so risky, very brave, i didnt approve of it, i looked at it now and i think, everyone probably needs to do something of their own, to somehow turn around in such a way that something made you be better than who you were, they did it, in the neighboring duet form of figure skating in ice dancing, you can someone then highlight, there every year more happens than in the whole world in figure skating in our dances, in our dances yes it happens, but we dont pretend, but a lot happens, it all has nothing to do with victories, a new style, some kind, to amazing elements, the most complex and interesting programs, which would stun with their obsession, while i dont see this, no one has, and its a shame , were losing a little dance, and you have some kind of, maybe a recipe, theres no way out of this current dance situation for me at all, except to work. Well, zhulin, hes a talented person, he knows a lot, hes very interesting himself, well, hell find something, how long will he search, i worked for 100 years, i worked for 50 years, well, its even inconvenient to say, but zhulin is a young man, still , besides zhulin, we also have coaches, i dont see from there is nothing new, i havent. I havent seen a couple who could fight for first place, but now the situation is such that we could immediately fight for first place, there is no one in the world, that is, you think that in dancing there is a small reboot in the world, yes, but we might not participate in this, we have been rebooting for many years already, lets go to the boys, to your probably favorite species, yes, your favorite. There is, because after working with the boys, there is no one else to work with, we have a new flying stool or more than once, there are flying stools, the boys are trying, they are trying, there are a lot of them, flying, boys, the boys are not bad, single out someone, or not, i wont single out, there were such demonstration performances that i couldnt single out anyone for myself, i liked mark, yes, i already liked markratyuk, i think, yes, i think he is the best, he is the best, and you cant single out someone because you lack original programs, charisma, yes, yes, there are not enough, there are not enough jumps, even with simple approaches, but quadruples, even you will reach training for the westerners, for the americans, yes, for training, and you see in training how they do quadruple, quadruple , quadruple, quadruple, quadruple, quadruple, with us its a little different, with us we are now preparing for the quadruple, now we will jump it , we are all waiting for the quadruple. And now were going to go in, were going in, we ran away, no, we didnt hit, something, something seems wrong to me, well, god grant that this all plays out a little in the season, and that quadruple jumps are easy , then it turns out that axel 3 and a half is hard, somehow no one showed such an axel. Like it was with lyoshka yagudin, i just wanted to ask about it, what was different, yes, different, it was different, because after axel it was clear that it was necessary to set 6 00, well, axel, this is a super element some kind, and then these quads that they jump, theyve been jumping for 20 years, sheepskin coat, how many years have they been jumping it, and that you cant still jump, sheepskin coat, your sandpiper , in my opinion, started, yes, also, quadruple stupid , olympic champion, yes, quadruple, cleanly, superbly did the quadruple lift, and then you fell in love with single skating, yes, yes, i fell in love, i fell deeply in love, ill share my observations with you a little, ill ask you to agree with me or disagree, because these are the observations on the mens single skating programs at the test skates that i found interesting. It turned out that the programs have become more like shows programs, and not for competitive programs, that with some programs it would be difficult to qualify for gold medals at the european and world championships, this is more of a spectacle, and not a clearly planned, balanced program that capable of lifting you to the top step of the pedestal, but if you do this show program, there are no programs that would turn you on, that would captivate you, that would amaze you, or that for these 4 and a half minutes would make your life more interesting, there are no such projects, now our most successful sport, probably the most successful in recent years , the most popular for fans is womens. Night skating, our girls, they have been winning almost all tournaments for almost 10 years now, not almost all tournaments are won, constantly a new bar, constantly higher and higher, the struggle of quadruples, the struggle of original programs, rotations, everything, dont you think that the ceiling is already very close, and whats next, where already, no, there is never a ceiling, but what to surprise is the approach, somewhere towards the ceiling, well, whats surprising, its surprising why some have rotation and others dont, that no one can rotate, rotate like that, so that i dont see this person, we havent seen such rotations, weve seen , but we dont see them now, we dont see them, theyre spinning, yes spinning, and there are six revolutions here, and there are six revolutions there, and after a change of foot there are six revolutions, wow, can you tell me the top five . Moments in figure skating in the world from tatyana anatolyevna tarasova, which our Young Athletes now need to take and review, you know, we already need to delve into our memory, then lets say it differently, maybe ill name some of my impressions, my short period sigurnykh, and you will either agree with me or smash me to smithereens, give these skates, well, number one, right first place for me, is the lunar sonata katya. This is the number one production for me in general and this story agrees with. Schnittke, short program, yagudina. I dont name, i dont say, neither a gladiator, nor a man in a tin mask, i say exactly schnitts, schnitts, the short program, this clown. This is actually the third place ill call philip condela the musketeer. Yes, all the boys were in love with this program, and we all wanted , well, we were all in love with this program, we all wanted to be musketeers, and ill probably name more so that we can cover all types, then lets touch on dancing this is usova zhulin, these Falling Leaves or whatever their program is called, and plowing leaves. They are absolutely for me, it seems to me that this program is not of that time, they were not on time, about 5 years ago, this would have been generally relevant, then it seems to me that it was ahead of the curve, if not, you can with me bet, no, they are very good, i dont know if it was ahead of the curve or not, but they, well, some style was not the same as everyone elses in this program, so im talking about the style, i tell myself all the time, this was the style, and y women, well, i dont even know, i havent watched them at all for a while, well, ill probably say balerro corolina, torvelin. Torvildin, but im not balero, i like barnum better, well, barnum, balero, everything, everything, this, everyone will remember this for the rest of their lives, yes, you like it, a minute on your knees, this is for the rest of your life, this is also one, yes, also an innovation, about women, again, this is a bolero, for me, well, i cant just say this, but for some reason its like that for me, and what about the womens skate, then of all times, maybe katarina widta . Carmen, yes, no, sasha cohen, y she was also great with you, she had very good performances, but in general shes just a grand prix final, human talent. The final of the grand prix, which he won for you and me, its actually a talent that is arbitrary in terms of energy, its a talent, and why didnt it work out, plus a program for the olympics, why, why didnt sasha become a champion, according to you, i left for this gone year after year. Something broke, i dont want to say anything good or bad right now, and its impossible to say anything to sasha at all, because she was doing absolutely everything, thats where i looked, she ran there, well, theres just so much from the americans, advice, i dont know english that well, for me it was a bit much, but for those who just came to us. Let me remind you that this podcast, free program with maxim trenkov and i dont need to introduce the person who is my guest today, how important is it to become an olympic champion in figure skating . Well, its still rarer than a world champion, right . Then the olympic champion, this is a higher rank, so the olympic champion is everything they know, everyone remembers, not everyone remembers the world champion, this is the maximum that figure skating should strive for, thats right, these are , of course, olympic champions, they spoke a lot about this, so im interested, the coach is a multiple olympic champion and olympic medalist how. Relates to the team tournament, they are the same olympic champions, because in the individual tournament they can take fifteenth place, these athletes, they even themselves know that they are not like that, they are olympic champions, they are called olympic champions, well, since they call them, if there is a medal and there is a podium, there are all the honors, i am generally for these competitions, because it seems to me that this is a very interesting competition, just when i was part of the team in sochi, and for me this is. Completely different competitions, also very significant, interesting, responsible, but for some reason this personal medal, its more than everything to me , no, well, of course, of course, its like fun, well , such wonderful fun, when we all fight together against another team, its great, because i still want to win as a team it seems that this is very interesting, well, it seems to me that the plant is just scary. This is very important, for people, it seems to me, very important, for spectators, we are athletes, and for athletes this is a kind of community, the team won, our figure skating, russia won, our figure skating is ahead of everyone, tronkov did not win, egudin did not win, and russia won, yes, russia won, yes, it also seems to me that this is very important, and it seems to me that people really adore it too, but the olympic champions are still the evangelical champions these are the olympic champions. Nothing higher than this no, above this there is only training, in which sometimes very good athletes are better than olympic champions , but they are the kings of training, the kings of training, ugh, so be it, to each his own, what should those people do, who, for example, like sasha cohen , we also have an example, i just dont want to say so as not to remind you. And so on, how next, what is the second chance, you gave your life, so what . If you have the opportunity, you continue to put it further, and work, put your life in order to win, in order to learn, for so that you cannot live without it, in short, you just love what you do, love, adore, otherwise its not life, and you continue to do it further, but if you, for example, get old or something, you end , and you remain not the first, the second, what to do, look for this gold medal in the students, some in the students, who are already so full that they dont want to, because by the end of the journey, every athlete understands that the coaching part is very difficult, at first it they dont really understand everything, but in the end they see that they understand that its hard, and not every already tortured athlete, tortured, athlete wants to go and force him to teach and because of this he cannot sleep himself and because of this he wants to give his life, because he just gave his life for himself, and now he has to give his life giving to another person is impossible, it is impossible, so it is very rare that outstanding athletes remain. And become coaches , and even less often they achieve any success later , tatyanavna, you counted how many olympic medals you have, honestly, it didnt even occur to me, count, my dad he said that for second places they are fired, you know, any medal, well, probably gold in this context, which is the most expensive for you, maybe the hardest , hard work. Unexpected, no, there are no unexpected medals, no, they dont exist, you have to work hard for them. And you have to work, forgetting about yourself, forgetting about everything, just work, then it will be unexpected, it wont be, but it would be better if it were, of course, i just have some mixed feelings, for example, even about my work, well, at the olympics v pekinne, at first i was even afraid. That it would work out and we would be in the top three, and then we lost 60 hundredths to the chinese, without a judge, that is, we are evgenia tarasov, vladimir morozov, our Coaching Staff and myself in the lineup and i already felt offended, that is, at some point i already understood, and if it were our judge, and if it werent for these 60 hundredths, and if it werent in china, and we were olympic champions, and if, that is you just have to ignore it and do your. Do your job, teach, do, learn, sometimes force, and sometimes you often force yourself, and almost always, well, no, this is a process, well, im not just talking about athletes, sometimes you have to force yourself, but how can you step over yourself, but of course, but i would like to sleep, but by seven in the morning, in my old age, i have to get up and go to training, tatya anatorevna, when you coached, and even when you brilliantly comment on figure skating, you really empathize with the athlete, this is happiness, you are this happiness, you because for me this is such stress, of course, probably stress, of course, but its impossible to behave differently, you cant force yourself to breathe, stand still, and endure. I should be free, i should help them, it seems to me that i am helping, and i am helping , that is, do you believe that the coach of the board, yes, not just anyone, no, skates the program with the athlete, i skate it myself, i always skated with my athletes, yes, but do you believe that you are skating with them, i dont believe that im helping them, i dont believe that im helping them, because. You cant skate, i cant, yes, you have to behave organically, the only time i didnt i skated a program with my athletes at the Olympic Games, a free program, i didnt skate, i just stood there and admired it, ive never, ive never experienced such, such joy that i watched no, i was very worried, but skating at the Olympic Games, athletes, because everything can be, yes, but of course, but i missed it a little, looked at it from the outside. Athlete, because when i was an athlete, i didnt need a coach at competitions, tanya and i never approached, were here announced, we stood up, held hands and went, because well, i thought that they had already told me everything, showed me everything, and this day, on this day, i just have to go out and show what i was taught, no magic words to me no one will tell you, except for those moments when maybe you cant tune in and you need to talk to someone, Something Like that, so that someone will splash it for you. In the face, as anatolyevna once did, with water on platovs wife, platovs wife, yes, it got it, it was a shock for everyone, but it was necessary to splash him just before a way out, look, it might not have worked, it might have been the other way around , that is, its still a risk, well, risk is a noble cause, but was there a moment when you were. So scared yourself, so excited yourself, so you are a coach, you need to bring out an athlete, and he is so, well, exciting for you that somehow you need to find inside, no, well, you need to find, you find, well, where are you going to be . The athlete, well, the valerian thats understandable, volocardin , ballerina, everything else, from coach tarasova, namely , you smell like valerian, no, well, you cant be, take it some kind of pill that will make you sick at all, meow, you cant say, its impossible, were back and continuing our fascinating conversation, im now working with my pairs in a large team, naturally i also intersect with singles skaters a lot with singles skaters, mostly young indeed, there is such a thing as parents. Skating, but you have always been for your students, not only a coach, but also parttime mother, mother, grandmother together, everything. I do everything that is necessary for the process to proceed, everything, what i need, i need to stroke my legs, ill stroke it, it takes an hour, ill give it an hour, i need an hour and a half , i need to, i need to learn how to massage properly, ill learn , ill massage when the massage therapist is not there every day, well, it seems to me that now the approach is a little different, because that a massage therapist had to be earned, naturally, so that. That would come later, but i needed before that, i massaged all of my people, but where to go, theres no money to go, ask someone, then someone, someone. Then this is no good, you know what you need to massage, you know what you need put it in order that you are a fool so as not to learn for your own. I can massage my body and brains, for example, well, probably, if you set yourself this goal, then you can try, im glad for you that you have such a program, thats how it is, thank you, but by the way, i watch it all the time, by the way , tatyana anatolyevna, this is a big thank you, again to you, because it was you who brought me, yes, on television, yes, on the First Channel it was you who told me that you should try to comment, taught me, yes, and i am very happy about it, and chided me, yes, and your coaching genius turns out, appears, manifests itself not only on the ice, what difference does it make where, but it seems to me that you just see, maybe people in some special way, well, for example, i see that a person can do what he needs, well, here you go. When you finish skating, well, something needs to be done, how to keep you occupied, i just care about this, i know this for myself, many people dont like this about me, thats what i seem to be doing, im getting into someone elses, yes, but i cant, if i see, i definitely have to or to say or do something, in the Current Conditions for our figure skating, we not only survived the last season, but it seems to me that we even showed how much we are already. All living, we came up with new tournaments, uh, held them, here tell your emotions about each one, for example, lets start with the russian challenge, show program tournament , it was interesting, it was very interesting, new tournament, great, show program tournament, skating between professionals, who have long retired from sports, who still in the National Team, champions world, europe, the Olympic Games and beyond , simply talented athletes all compete in their artistry, creativity, charisma, and just like 20 years ago , your student wins at the Olympic Games in soult lake city. Welcomes Alexey Yagudin and his legendary coach tatyana anatolyevna tarasova. With her phrase, which every figure skating fan knows, and today we were once again convinced of this. Lyosha, maybe thats all, well, what can i do, what does it mean that our figure skating hasnt moved anywhere these 20 years, or you how much, its just that we are ahead, we are good , well, in your opinion, everything is deserved, it wasnt me who evaluated it, thank you, god, who evaluated it, peoples artists, well, not me. Well, after all,