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I m ready to be with you for hours and forever, bad girl, shell do everything, shell do everything, everything, will, do, everything, everything, everything, your bad girl. Hello, this podcast is a must read, im glaina aatnikova, my guest today is writer, poet Alexander Pelevin and film actor daniil muravyov. We will discuss mark twain and his two novels, the adventures of tom sawyer and the adventure of huckleberryfin. Sasha, please tell me, tom sawyer and haeckel berifin are very different things. In fact, its hard to believe that this was written by the same writer, these are completely different books, but i just remember my childhood impression about them, yes, but about how different they are from each other and even contradict each other in some ways, because when i was again, i read these books in class in the fifth, i think, or sixth, i i dont remember, honestly, i thought it was supposed to be, but in my naivety i thought that the adventure of hekalyafin was. The continuation of the story of tom sawyer is exactly the same, that is, like tom sawyer there, ha ha, the boy spat in boy, they were all given bream and then they went to their parents and everything was fine, revealing, decay, darkness, poverty, crime, murder, violence, slavery, listen, but there is also murder in tom sawyer, heres dani, just describe to tom sawyer , thats whats going on there, how did you even see it all when you reread it, for me personally, Thomas Sawyers book is just about the model of childhood, just what it is and why you need to treat life, etc. And the people around you, how valuable they are, how easy it is to lose them, and the main character, tom soya, reminded me very much, a mixture of characters from dirk, peter blood, chronicles of peter blood, only hes older, roughly speaking, so i like the character himself because hes very , like hes such a funny guy, that he can even at some points. But hes an inventor, hes always having some kind of adventures , he is a very smart person, and he may be incomprehensible to some, that is, he is just a boy for some, but for some he will be a genius, i can say, a genius, why do they invent interesting adventures, and tomsuer this is the absolute archetype of a trickster, that is, he deceives everyone, he jokes about seven, this is such a fool who always turns himself upside down, even himself in certain scenes, but in the end , something either has some benefit from this, or he just laughs at everything. Tom sawyer is about the tail, but at the same time we understand that in these adventures he reaches a very serious limit, that is, there are stories about how he got lost in a cave, almost died of hunger with a girl, and also, that is, he holds responsibility for this girl, he witnesses the murder, that is, we see that with on the one hand, this is all, well, jokes, humor, cheerful laughter, yes, on the other hand, we understand that he very often finds himself on the verge of life and death, he feels quite confident in this situation, its like the character in the movie brother said, take the burden with you, so as not to fall when walking, Something Like this, clearly, that is, tom sawyer, he is still a boy from a good family , in general everything is fine with him, he is an orphan, he lives with his aunt, but nevertheless, it is clear that this is a good family, he reads books, he is wonderfully brought up, he lives in love, and he you can say from. Excess vitality comes up with all these troubles, yes, and hekel berifin is a tramp, a man who doesnt really have a family, has a drunkards father, who sees him and shouts, what . I learned to read books, now what do you think, you will become smarter than me, yes, yes, yes, i didnt count, i remembered , in fact, that khamengui also said that all American Literature grew from huckelburne, in this he is absolutely right, and the same khamenguy wrote that huckelburne should be read to the point where negrajima they steal from gekko, according to khamengue, this is where the real end is, Everything Else is a scam, it seems to me that in some ways he is right, because the book is very perishable and gloomy, this is where it could have ended, well, it seems to me , the issues of racism are very relevant there, because the main plot of huckelberifino is that huck is running away from his father, who locked him in a house or some kind of hut, he cannot go to school there, well, in general, this is not life , he runs away from his father, imitating his murder, and he chops up some pig there, i must say, the guy is so strong, he always comes up with very practical ways, yes, of getting out of the situation, and then he meets this runaway black man jim on some island, they travel together further along the river, and what about, about imitation murder too very interesting, because literally a couple of hours ago i found the most obvious parallel between hekelbrefin and the film dead man by jimajarmus, and by the way, its interesting. Have you seen the movie jeremy schmertz . Be sure to look, he is absolutely great, be sure to look, and thats the point, too, and that if you reread this book from the position that huck did not actually fake his death, but actually died, it turns out that the journey of a dead man, and not just the journey of a dead man, the journey of a dead man in a boat on the river, charon, together with his guide, the black man jim, who, by the way, knows how to speak with spirits, jim tells fortunes on this hair ball, as it were. By the way, yes, you can still buy dantes divine comedy, just virgil, one day he reads dante, and when i asked tom sour to read, i, in general, i was it is said that he is already reading dante, and you come to him with a childrens book, why tom sawyer, i looked at him differently, from the position, as if already inside this book, and it was interesting for me to watch just that , how from any simple. Situation you can get some kind of super morality , some super emotions and so on, theres a wonderful film about it, its called life is beautiful, and the director is benini, and its also the main character , he too, he seems like everything is bad, but he turns everything upside down, he turns everything into a game, this is what you need be able to, and this is very well shown in the scene with the cave, that becky has already lost hope, that shes still lying there like that, shes still crying, shes going to die. For a girl, in general, yes, but he did exactly what many people would not have done, that is, he, from a very, very gloomy situation, he did not lose hope and gave this hope to others, this is an indicator of enormous strength, this is an indicator of enormous strength within himself, by the way, it s interesting there, he ties some kind of string there, to a chip along this string, goes to darkness, when the candles have run out, to understand where the road is next , i mean that this is not just a dreamer boy who read about adventures from books, he can also practically find some way out in a difficult situation, this is of course his makes you related, as they say, life will force you, you wont be so colorful, no, listen, believe me , many people in a critical situation simply fall into catatonia and dont know what to do, but tom, he takes responsibility for the girl, by the way, lets talk about girls, here i am i read thomas tekelfin as a child, and then and now i was probably more interested in hekel berifin, because i was interested in the practical part of his adventures, but at the same time, only tom sawyer has relationships with girls, and for me maybe it was most interesting, as a child, to read about relationships with girls , that is, tom is such a ladies man in general, you can say, yes, he has a theme of girls, it is revealed, he has different girlfriends, he is there somehow moves from one to another, he has there are some. Your own methods of seduction, daniil, please tell me how you saw toms relationships with girls in general, i will say not only about baikie, i will generally say that tom sawyer is a character who knows how to love, and he learns to give love to others, that is, he receives love, he loves to receive, but he also learns to give this thing, this is the type of character where you mess up, you just do something, and then you sit and think, damn, why did i do this, why, how where . And so on, quite typical, yes, quite well, thats why the line slips with many boys who are trying to somehow manage relationships, well, he can just pretend that he doesnt notice someone there, this is often topic, well, he has a story there, that this is beiki, she was offended by him, because she found out that he has some other girl in his life, then after some time she begins to take some steps towards reconciliation , but tom pretends that he doesnt notice her and starts walking with some other a girl, yes, that is, he is engaged in the fact that he will make her jealous, yes, well, in general, he fuels her interests, typical manipulations, that is, with which, that is, these manipulations, in fact. The current izumers, and psychologists, and so on, didnt invent it, this is exactly the hero of our time, yes, that is, well, lets even start with how he tries to attract the girls attention, that is, he stands on his head in front of her and tries to throw all sorts of blades of grass, pieces of stones, i dont know, make all sorts of things out of who knows what, and well, this is also very typical, we love to show off properly, well, he successfully shows off, that is, becky is in love. Everything works out for him, he did everything right, and he is also openminded, so they sit, sit and he immediately says i love you, that s all, that too, direct, persistent, he even manages to kiss this girl, who personally me in childhood i was impressed, i would say that this is very confident behavior, okay , daniil, you may have friends who behave this way, honestly, ive met people like that, yes, thats right, mm, i didnt say would be that its exactly the same, but manipulation, but for some it suggests, well, si, you like this in the volume very much, not very much, i know people who behave like this at the age of 30, but there are those who dont it turns out never, yes, haha, and then they sit all their lives, sad, but this is not about you , success awaits you, i think, well, well wait and see if the person was a believer, i think that yes, he built churches , a church cannot be built by an unbeliever, who is he, the tsars architect or him, tallinns favorite, the average salary according to moscow was around 600, he received 10,000 rubles. 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This podcast is a mustread, im ogladnikova, my guests are writer and poet Alexander Pelevin and film actor daniil muravyov. We discuss Thomas Sawyer and haeckel berifina novels by mark twain, a famous american writer. Hekel berifin meets thomas in the finale, that is, first we see hekel berifin in the story about tom sawyer, then we see tom sawyer in the story of parogel berifin. And they look very different. Because when huck appears in the story about tom, we understand that huck, well, lets say, is such a partner, buddy, yes, a buddy on adventures, he helps, that s right, tom is a leader, and in the second story, where the adventure of huckelfin , we meet at the end of tomor, who, with pleasure fits into the adventure that huck offers him, that is, to free the runaway black man who is sitting in a shack, but they are both boys. They are not pretending to be who they are, they are deceiving some aunt, a beautiful woman, too, this is toms aunt, but they pretend that hekel berifin is tom, and tom pretend that he is a sith, cousin, then there is somehow that they play everything , the woman believes, and tom begins, a whole series, that is, these adventures that he read in the books, he begins to imitate, he forces this black man to drag some kind of millstone, that means in y, so that he would pretend to be a prisoner, write some letters , the negro cant write, but tom writes for him, you have to dig it out, tom writes some anonymous letter, they come with guns farmers, to wait for the attack, which onons, eh, they will see what is happening there, that is, there are full rats of spiders, but they caught up with him some animals there , it is brilliantly brilliant, this is the episode, here these last chapters, people think that this negro is crazy, they say he is crazy, what is he . Arranged there for i wrote something on the shirt, and this is all, but the most interesting thing is that huck, realizing that it is completely nonfunctional, it makes no sense that this negro can simply be filmed in the bed and let it go, but there was a very cool episode there , where they say that listen, there is a very heavy stone, help us carry it, and jim just takes it, lifts the bed , wraps his chain around his neck, runs away, takes the stone again, this captivates himself, that was also everyone obeyed, and this black man , and himself, huck, yes, they all listen to tom unquestioningly, but this is not in general, this whole story makes no sense, especially since in the end it turns out that negro is free, and tom knew about it, because his mistress, negra, wrote him, so to speak, a letter of liberation, and in her will, that is, they just had fun for the sake of fun, yeah, mostly fun tom, i ll be honest, of these two books i liked tom sawyer better, why . Here it is about eloquence, love, and about the freedom of your own spirit, in ggelberi it is about freedom, namely your bodily, that you can be anywhere, whenever you want, about love for your loved ones, loneliness, how easy it is to lose them, and to some extent friendship, how important it is too, and the people around you, how important they are to you, and honestly, at the moment, tom sawyer is closer to me, its his story, but in the book about huckelberry, tom at one point began to irritate me, well, at this moment, which we are discussing, when he began to torment people with his own, why and of course , this is great, this is fun, there he is trying to turn into game, but here there is a question, as they say about the life of death, here, well, tom is a trickster, and a trickster is supposed to torment people with his fantasies, tell me a minus, but its interesting that in huckelfin, after all. Shes with a black man , and the negro at that time, i remind you that we are talking about the period of the mid19th century in america, where there was slavery, and the negro was not considered a person, that is. Huck says that he had some kind of accident on the steamboat, he says the cylinder head exploded, she says, well, i hope no one died . He says, well, only one black man died, she says, well, well, none of the people were hurt, and even this internal monologue of gekko, after jim was stolen from him, stolen from him, again i emphasize, yes, where he himself is tormented by his conscience. So good, we need to help him, but i did something bad, but he needs help, he is really tormented by his conscience, trying to somehow get out of the paradox for him that a black man is a thing for him, yes, that is, yes, and he suddenly in his eyes ceases to be a thing, he becomes a person, in this regard, to me its very funny that in the last decade they began to make claims against this book for the notorious. The words i call the book racist daniel doesnt say a word, here s daniel, can you somehow explain this, i didnt live at that time, but i understand , why did everything happen there like that, because it was, to some extent, under the influence of some kind of religion and similar things, its just that society does this, lets look at these horrors of slavery, here, by the way, theres another fifteenyearold captain, heres a book, just about this one too topic, but i can say this , in our time, at least my exact generation, we calmly. Communicate without any vices, any boundaries, with other people, i dont have any kind of problems just in time for people of a different nationality or a different race, for example, that is, i communicate with a person and see a person in him, no matter who he is, but this is the problematic of hekel berifina, what he says. Say that it shows a moral problem, because on the one hand , he understands that he loves this black man, but he is friends with him, he is his comrade, he cannot give him away, at some point he says that my father is on the raft, he is suffering from smallpox, so that no one gets close to the raft where jim is hiding, but he at the same time time perceives this as his crime, he understands that this is jim, someones thing, and he seems to be leading him away from this slavery. Mark twain was very much scolded for this book then, in general, by traditional american society, which, southern arab owners who are accustomed to this order of things, who are like the negro man that they are on mark twain was attacked a lot for this, because how dare you say that, now mark twain is being attacked for using this word, well, you feel the difference, well, its clear, well, here it is that the person showed the truth, and he is for it they condemn, everything is so, it was the same, lets say with scientists, and they simply changed peoples opinions and peoples worldview to, lets say , the correct one for how it really is, but no one wanted to accept it, but lets say, this is how the telescope was invented, comrade galileo, and he was not accepted, he was told refuse. From his words that he spoke about the worldview and the model of the universe, but mark twain was friends with nikola tesla, who was also absolutely misunderstood, absolutely, he was also despised, spread rot, hated, he was not given money, nikola tesla in general i didnt see how right he turned out to be, how much he is valued now, in the Scientific Community and so on, but nevertheless we know this man, and he is known throughout the world, he is printed on, in my opinion, serbian banknotes, the man simply overcame society, that is, he. Stopped telling himself that he is different, that his views are not the same as others, so he stands out from the crowd in the case of tesla, and this is exactly what the main american writers did, starting from mark twain, hemmingway, jack london, sorvals physics, they were all a little outsiders in american society, they sympathized with the socialists, for which they were ridiculed by their society and so on, but popularized in the soviet union, yes. And by the way it was exactly the other way around in soviet union, there were also writers who calmly exiled them to siberia if they didnt like something there, because they write everything, well, okay, heres jack london, he went to the gold mines, mark twain also worked in the gold mines , he worked like in shipping, that is, he dropped out of school altogether, because the family was very poor and apparently it was hard for him, from the age of 12 he worked, he knew what he was writing about, yes, he knew what he was writing about, and we feel it, that is, in this. Berifina, i understand that every detail is there, there he flooded the shuttle with stones a little lower current, in order to find him later, he caught some kind of loaf of bread there, which is looking for a dead man, yes, well, that is, there is a lot of Practical Knowledge that you cant imagine, there is a lot there, so the book looks realistic, by the way, here in in this regard, mark twain, its quite special in this book, hes quite an american maxim gorky, especially because, firstly, mark twain was greatly indulged, but his work, yes, since he is for freedom, equality of brotherhood in his works probably had this meaning, maxim gorky, went to america in 1906, as the newspapers wrote then, to get money for the russian revolution, it was generally a very sad story, because at first in america they accepted how a revolutionary hero from oppressed russia came to us , in order to promote the idea of ​​the russian revolution, and then the American Media organized. Him with wild persecution, they heavily discredited his personal life, shouted that we dont need him and so on, well, that is, the large American Media magnates saw gorky as supporters of socialism, namely a threat to your values. Mark twain also noticed this, mark twain valued gorky very much, gorky also valued him very much. By the way, i also liked maxim gorkys childhood, and they also had all sorts of adventures there, they came up with a dagger there, maxim gorkys childhood, right here too. There were dangers that were on the verge of a game, lets say, even her ears are the same, it seems to me that now children are still not so savvy, lets say, yes, they dont understand how to catch a fish, fry it for dinner, well yes, but here it is yes, it depends places, from upbringing and from time, by the way, there is also such a stereotype, that all modern children do not get out of the house, that well, no one plays in the yard now, but i will say for myself that at least in. The region, where i live, where i was born, this does not exist, now everyone knows each other, everyone plays with each other calmly live, in the online world, etc. , i also constantly see children playing in the yard, it is a myth that all children now theyre just sitting in ganjids, not doing anything, in fact, theyre quite jumping around there in the courtyards, digging in the sandboxes, maybe they throw stones at each other and so on, yes, if they are on the phone, then usually they go there with friends to visit somewhere, yes, yes, yes, this podcast is a mustread, aglaina batnikova is with you. My guest is the writer poet Alexander Pelevin and film actor daniil muravyov, we are discussing thomas soera and hekel berifina, two of mark twains most famous novels. But its interesting that mark twain, when he started writing tom sawyer, it was in seventy seventysix, i think he released tom sawyer, he first wrote it as an adult book, that is, a book for adults, and then his friends told him that you , it turns out, are a childrens writer, yes, you are a childs man. Writer, sash, do you think there is some peculiarity in the perception of mark twain, which makes him a childrens writer, because it seems to me that even a beggar prince, and he also has a novel, they are still probably perceived as well, something for young people, of course, of course, this volume is absolutely a childrens book, in my opinion, because it is written not in the first person, but at the same time, yes, but at the same time through the prism of childrens perception, and hekel is the opposite, it is written in the first person, it is written in a very modern way, in the first person, it looks very well, it is autofiction , yes absolutely, absolutely, and so powerful, on the contrary, it is written in the first person, but through a very adult prism, because heck, well, having seen some pain and sadness in his life, he has matured, of course, that is, heclefin is an absolutely adult thing, shes probably an adult on the issues, that is, to me it seems that this is the moral torment of this huckelberin, when we understand that what he is doing is absolutely christian, and this is true, and this is from the point of view, in general, some kind of morality, the only true path, that he does not give friends, there he treats the negro there as a person, if he deceives, then there is always a reason for this, that is, he does not do it just like that, but at the same time he thinks to himself that he is a great sinner, that he commits crimes that he is a lost man is very cool, by the way, yes, he also believes that he cannot be a leader and cannot adequately come up with something, that is, there were right there. Moments where the book says that tom sawyer would see me now, and it seems to me , that im worse than tom sawyer and so on, and in this episode, that there was also a moment where they free jim, and he said, he came up with some kind of plan, he said, well, ill come up with it now some plan, but tom will definitely come up with something better, lays it out and he receives approval from tomsoer, and there was even an urgency that he was sitting there like this, oh, i didnt expect it, its very funny that when tom sawyer begins to help him in freeing jim, huck stops respecting him, he says i used to respect tom sawyer, i i thought he was such a decent person, educated from a good family, and he helps