The meaning of the new production. Alas, the new military connotations completely changed the interpretation of the work, online young critics, who, apparently, are the same senseless sheep as the intern and the snowflake ship, began to furiously insist that heroes are the salt of the earth, the basis of everything that happens, and one lady, katya trus, even wrote that the young man, listening. Song the dog ate the goods, now she is a drug addict, he is the oldest of this entire crew of the ragtag ship bullfinch, which justifies its meaningless existence by talking about how to live, and its always nice to find out what the meaning of existence is, apparently, write publish all sorts of film criticism in various online publications, and also chat on the air what katya trus and i do is a meaningful existence, but fishing chestdeep in icy water is a meaningless existence, which you wont learn from girls, if they are overstrained by surrounding events, if you remember khlebnikovs previous paintings, ae crazy help, arrhythmia, an ordinary woman, a storm, ae, then it is clear that he always shies away from placing accents, where is good, where is evil, with him , as strictly speaking in screenwriter keninova, constantly, the most sympathetic people, towards the end, turn out to be the most complex freaks, on the contrary, the most extreme figures, suddenly, manifest themselves as completely positive characters, everything with him is quite complicated and at first, one of the heroes , frankly, lets say, even an antihero, a young trainee who entered the naval ship because he failed in physics and was offered free housing, who aims to escape to thailand and constantly occupies the shower room, regardless of all the other members of the team, evokes a rather disgusting feeling, and in order to slightly smooth out this impression, khlebnikov takes the main role of his own son, makar khlebnikov, known to many from the film my mothers penguins, a series about standup comedy, indeed, there is some sympathy for the character is still beginning to show through, but in any case, making him the salt of the earth and an absolute hero, a bearer of boundless truth, is only possible, as director iraim sivela said at the time. Only with the heat of a nervous system. It was a podcast, burn with fire, and i was its host, denis gorelov, with a story about the most relevant domestic premieres of the past season. Hello, this is a podcast not lykomshity. Tatyana gevorkyan is with you and we have the release. Today is very unusual, we are going on a time machine to the brightest and most unusual time in the nineties and perhaps the brightest stars of the era, irina solttykova, shura and sergei penkin, will talk with us about fashion and the style of that time. So, first of all, ill apologize to everyone, im sitting in these terrible shoes, ill say right away they forbade me to give away what i came in, they told me to wear this. Sasha, like a gentleman, changed his shoes. Yes, i. Today im visiting you, im thinking about what i should wear, i dont want to be like everyone else, well, friends, this week were all discussing gentle may, because yura is having trouble. It was a birthday, and of course, we remember the era of the nineties, probably in our memory, in our generation, this was the brightest and most adventurous era, what are your memories . Good, the best, mm, considering that in the same year when i drank jurassic, i was invited to work in the traffic light group in novosibirsk, so funny, traffic light, because we stole traffic lights, put them on stage, they blinked beautifully, and we worked, barnaul, kemerovo, tomsk, krasnoyarsk. I sang yurunovs songs alive, many, many, many years later razen, when we met, became friends, he says and we were looking for you like a beast, we were looking for you, we knew someone sings, rides , we live all these songs, we met the yura recently, from the lands, yes, he behaved very secretly all his life, thats how he was boy , hes like that in himself, i would say, well , its interesting that everyone had a different style in the nineties, yura, hes such a generation of denim. The jeans guy, in short, whoever had what , put it on, yes, the guy from the neighboring yard, well, shura its just a king, as they called you, for pants, that is, no money enough, i went out in shorts, yes, ira, sexy, they put everything into it, all the beauty that was, they put all the beauty into you and alisher, god bless you, well, thats only later, but initially, yes, no, initially not, but you can name. One of the brightest, most fashionable stars of that time, in your opinion, aguzarova, and who else . Well, in those days im very uh, now i feel sorry for her, why somehow we dont talk about this singer, this is marina kapur, irina otieva, who packed stadiums, sang blues and jazz and pop songs, but if lets take the technology groups, they worked there like depe mode or kakranduran , that is, there is a little. In leather, in black, in bright ones, well, probably, i say, only here is zhana guzarova, before i was famous was the most fashionable, i remember now, ill tell you a case now, i literally just remembered, back then there was cronyism, but here are some fashionable shoes, you werent born yet, probably not, ill tell you now my story from the nineties, where i i took things, well, that is, i have my mothers sisters, one there was the manager of the store, the second one was simply called blat there. Girls she knows who work in stores and so on, and that is, how something so fashionable appeared , they threw it away, it was called, the girls there threw away their blouses, they called me and naturally i definitely buy food there for myself, naturally the people, the queue there is extraordinary, there i am i dont know, there are 200 people, maybe, or even more, but we have no queue and there are only red shoes for the whole, so to speak, the whole of moscow, well, lets put it roughly that way, right . And i call my friend and say lets go fight over shoes . Well, no, we have the opportunity to take them there from the back entrance and so on, we went, here are the same shoes , but i want to say that they were still fashionable, that is, a thin nose and a small heel, listen, but it was so brave to go out into the street in these things, because i remember an episode, i remember how i was going to college, and the whole carriage, just the whole carriage, i was standing, they were looking at my legs like that, because i then i was inspired by the clip, remember, there was a clip of phon on blons, there were girls like that in brutal soldier uniforms boots, it was wildly cool, and i realized that i wanted these boots, but it was impossible to buy them, because well , you couldnt even buy red shoes, well, what year are you talking about now, well, it was the nineties after all. No, im just telling you a little earlier, im somewhere in the early nineties, but this is probably the midnineties, and i went to some market, its already clear there, we still had a lot of military and bought boots from Romanian Army soldiers in my opinion, well, markets have already appeared, yes, we somehow climbed through the showrooms that were in apartments, it was still illegal, it was still a secret, it was in general , well, it seems to me that there is nothing, the birch trees would not have changed, it seems to me that they still exist, they are now absolutely the law, no, then you still need how this means having time to run over someone, buy something for yourself while running, so that it doesnt happen again later, because there were a lot of repetitions , you come to a party where the same thing happens on someone, well, we had such a small choice, you know, thats later , listen, who were they in general . I just started, i came to catch up with you later, who were they in general . The coolest in the nineties, its clear that they were pop artists, musicians, and also, do you remember who they wanted to do everything with . Meet with representatives of what profession . Well, are they bandits . By the way, well get to that, no, but the coolest, most fashionable guys were music video directors. Quite later, you mean we created them, it was later, yes , something quite, something small at all, we just look good, oh well, well, it was the nineties, yes, and there were only three music video directors, there were them, there were three of them in total, well, no, there were them it was a little more, well, its already clear to you, wait, im you, youre the only one, yes, it was gusev, and khleborodov was filming, and kolvarsky, but no, bondarchuk, yankovsky for sure, yankovsky was already brought in later and scolded for that, that he started making videos, not movies. How and where, what were you inspired by, where did you get things, because it wasnt so simple , where, i just want to know the origin of your bright stage costumes, well, firstly, it all started not in the nineties, but in the eighties, because that for eightysix years i worked at ariit, intourist space intercontinental and we have already traveled abroad a lot, at that time i worked as a janitor and traveled abroad. Everything was on tour, so, well, people stayed there to work for me, so we were in singapore , america, canada, italy, germany, i want to say that i brought some things from there, but mostly if take our stage, everyone basically wore boiled boiled clothes, jeans, so it was impossible to get, they cooked it themselves or, well, they cooked something themselves, because the nineties were such difficult years, something. Somewhere in the markets, so i want to say that i came up with all these costumes myself, what tells me that its so bright there, i took all this, in a ballroom dancing store, and by the way i , i remember, i was watching just now, preparing for the program, watching an old video and found a recording from 1987, where you are performing at a concert, in such a rather modest jacket, such a modest young man, not a single rhinestone, this is the kind of generosity expected at the evening. Yes, yes, yes, exactly there, no, well then i didnt work in arita yet, it was just like we were walking, here we are this is how the evening turned out, i was invited to this evening, so everything somehow got twisted, confused, but then i had this magazinemusic kiosk, where they called me, like, what a great radion shchedrin, some cheap sweetvoiced guy there some kind of singer, Something Like this, but to me, everyone there received you so warmly, well, maybe the audience warmly, but because not everyone understood this kind of music, i understand, i always always go as a pioneer, i always get all the apalievukhs , first of all, and then after me already someone takes an example from me and does something, but its good when they take a good example from you, and by the way, i heard somewhere else that , in my opinion, in 1988, you performed with a film group somewhere together and that almost viktor tsoi and his wife, natalya razlogova, sewed it on you on the eighth. Reflections for the trousers, yes, they werent even trousers, they were like arabic trousers like this, that is, wait, it turns out that in 1987 you were enough, and in 1987 you performed quite modestly on stage and then in 1988 year you met viktor tsoi on stage yet, i havent performed yet, its just that there were such youth evenings, we went there with many artists, everyone went to yalta and i stayed in patura, im the director, i say, i say, i want to leave, i say, why me, why is Everything Different for me . Music, why dont they understand me, he says, no, he says, everything will be fine, in the eightyeighth year, just this month, july, in my opinion, viktor tsoi arrived with his girlfriend, so i was embroidering these sequins, sitting there, and they helped me there, supported me, we laughed so much, well, we were we were friends for one day, and the song baby, what do you care about, they wrote it about me, wow, then the drummer of this movie Group Already remembered about it, i didnt know about it. Listen, this is an amazing story, viktor tsoi was sergei penkins stylist, well, not just a stylist, he just helped me, we sat, laughed, told jokes, had fun, and sewed, well, i sewed, his girlfriend helped me there, because everything i had to do it myself, with my own hands, because it wasnt the kind of fabric that comes in now, i just sewed it, maybe even directly in general, its just two loops of some kind to make everything, the suit is ready, but before all this did not exist. Attention, you are in a time machine, now we are in the era of eppotage, rhinestones, sports chic and a riot of color, we are discussing those same dashing nineties, let me tell you quickly, i came to visit her, now she lives in her house, she wishes that he would sadum, im saying, hands, ill go to the toilet , wash it, she says, wait, its impossible, i think, why not, i open it, its a huge toilet, what a mansion, she, well, i say, can hear on the warm floor hair. False, false hair, all over the warm floor like this in the bathtub, we dry our curls beautifully, but because it was fashionable then, yes, i see, in fact it was, bother me at all, you dont remember anything, its so funny, thats it these hairstyles are from the nineties, yes, but it was fashionable, you just opened this pandoras box about the criminalization of the nineties, you remember that then there was a very Clear Division in style between all these different social strata of the population , burgundy jacket, tracksuit. Either or a tracksuit for men for women is not so, it seems to me that today you are a little bit of a gangster, cavalier, yes yes no, well, a jacket, yes, and you also know this, raspberry , well, you would never dress like that, yes, in the nineties you would have a raspberry jacket, a raspberry jacket and you wouldnt have worn the chain, i had it too, it was just for fun, the jackets were also plugin. Hangers, moronic and so its huge, there are also these foam rubber ones and like a wardrobe, well, because we didnt have things of good quality, everything was so Kind Consumer goods, and the funniest one, if only it were good, there was always such a label on the sleeve, right here, it had to be torn off, for some reason our lads decided that no, on the contrary, civility is that right here but we need to stop, now again by the way, i want to add, to add to this, now one of the italian designers has released this collection. And even here the label says 1999 like, well, were back , were back, yes, first an adidas tracksuit, then a silk suit, then a green suit, then a red suit, in eight sixth, yes, the first foreign cars appeared, but now this is not the case, now everyone dresses quite evenly, that is, you can never tell by the style of clothing, you know, it used to be. It even happened before, how much did you buy there for, say, a suit for 3,000 , youre a complete fool, i bought it for five, that is , the more money you paid, the better it was considered, but then people started counting money, then thats it it became different, well, in the nineties, they probably mostly sewed everything, but there were very few russian designers then, who could, no, firstly, the hare was a very good designer, and you dressed from you know, i didnt dress for him, but according to his designs there was such a brooch, a black horse cap, some interesting ones, i think that the hare was a very cool designer and was friends with perkarden, there and in general , well, it was very beautiful, because if you look at it, they take everything from our fashion, they take everything from our clothes, all these fashion designers, probably quilts, fluff. Felt boots, these, as they are called now, uhuh, uhuh, theyre still there now, just now, if remember, they take a lot from our styles, then the first boots with locks, kokoshan , in my opinion, someone there took an example from our skaloshes there, thats all, it comes from us, well, kokoshniks stylize them too, yes, but this is directly russian style this is a separate direction in world fashion, and now your attitude towards stage costumes has changed. You know, there are a lot of bright things now , i dont want to go like everyone else, i want to go against the flow, i want something different, what are you planning for the upcoming concerts, what outfits, for example, if there is a suit, a symphony orchestra, then you can go out in a tailcoat, with a shiny vest, some interesting things. Which, again, is not like everyone else, you can still do it, you left something from the nineties in your wardrobe, there are some things that are dear to you, which are some kind of memory, connected with some. Then events over the years there are a lot of costumes that are uh a cape made of laser discs, uh, where you performed in it, i remember, its strange how thats why mark almet is so unknown among us, as he is known, after all, he collects stadiums . In italy, in france, in germany, it seems to me that he was also famous in the nineties, he still collects, but here somehow, i dont know, we performed with him, i also had such a platform there, then there is, time passes, but you somehow change, you want to stay in that style, but more, you grow up and, no matter how funny it seems, but from those times you have some things that cause just like, hello from the past, a symbol of the nineties, yes, well , maybe yes, but the nineties did not collapse only physical boundaries, but also the boundaries of our perception, everyone began to dress more carefully, everyone began to read some completely different literature, watch movies, all this influenced us very much, these are the things that inspired you, its great that everything has changed , it became so good. Cherkizon opened, opened, opened the borders, we began to travel, we began to see more, travel, relax, import, ah, i dont know, all sorts of museums, excursions and so on, we began to simply live, real life, what then we were jealous, looking there, then television, do you remember, these are the things you first brought back from these trips abroad, some crazy ones, i had everything. Ill tell you, my first trip was abroad, you can say, i think, hungary, just cut it out , cut out hungary, and i had, i dont remember now, i was still married, i had Something Like , it seems to me that its only 300 dollars, or maybe more, well, for some reason it seems so to me, well, it doesnt matter, the main thing is that i brought, i brought two huge bags and the third one was full of pots a bag with frying pans because when and that is, you are still the housewife, yes, thats why i also brought dishes from italy, you understand normally , that is, what are you talking about, not only things there was a shortage, there was a shortage of everything, there was a shortage of a good life, we had one silver fox hat for the whole family and when i was putting it on, i tied the ears here, my mother, when she finished wearing it, let go of the ears, there was also one jacket for everyone with deer, for my brother, for me, in the first half of school, if he doesnt have one there, then, and then i, nothing, but there was everything at home, and the carpet, the wall legs, and a refrigerator, a beryus, and a tv, zenith, or something, everyone went on an excursion, they came to us on an excursion, listen, and when you started dressing up just like that on stage, that is, you always like that, yes, of course, in childhood there were opportunities to dress like this, well, what opportunities there were, my mother served in a military unit, my first beautiful shirt, it was impossible to buy anything, the military shirt was green, i tore off the shoulder straps, made them leather, made this leather strap, here is the strap, leather pockets, here these, thats all, leather cuffs, we cut off the skin where necessary and painted it with morgantsovka, i mean, i had an openwork association of passionate women. Listen to the handicrafts, but how the people around me perceived the normals, they just knew who i was communicating with, no , i didnt have to come up to me, and no one ever said anything bad, i could catch up, and my grandmother kept saying, dont meddle with him, heavy hand, move away from him, its better to smile and run away, and when you already started working so actively in the field in the field of pop music, you probably didnt have time anymore take care of your wardrobe, there were stylists, how crazy are you, stylists, you are crazy. I mean, when i was already an adult, well, of course, nasochka had one stylist, alisher , when we came to our stage, alisher was my stylist on mtv too, even for all the silishers i also had Alisa Tolkacheva, alisa, i had tolkacheva, of course, yes, i really liked it, but they still take it into account, in general, i wanted, when i came to the stage, i wanted to embrace everything that was incredible at once, so i had costumes, oh, karau, but beautiful, as it was, listen, what was considered. All the most fashionable, this is just the most chic, they couldnt get the booms, its exclusive, if someone has feathers, thats it, thats it, thats the ceiling, thats the top , these feathers, you had everything, yes, no, well, in fact, it was, well, let me tell you quickly, on one highway, when we went out to buy cognac , we were driving from city to city on a big bus with ballet, with cheese, night on the highway, there was a stall, there was a window behind bars, grandma sitting with a candle inside, but this is the nineties, right . Do you understand what kind of current there is on the loruk highway . To let you down, of course, the artists come only with a candle, they meet you people for potatoes, the artists are right there, our bus is all open, and you also remember that the bus has unique steps like that we went to the steps oh, and this old woman is like that, i think what the hell is this ira coming out . Ill buy everything myself, lets ira come down with a suit, were just coming from the concert, heres the fur, everything, everything, and you know that grandma, i have no one to guard my back about, i myself, and the grandma is like, virgin mary, virgin mary, ira gives 100 dollars and says , two mitax, this is cognac this one comes in a long bottle. Utter shit, well, whatever it was, it was, the costumes were really beautiful, and eppotage, spectacular, sashka s was more beautiful in one direction, mine was in another, mine is so beautiful in yours, mine is in golota, listen, but with us there are even photographs , lets look at your images, how beautiful, and where from, yes, i remember, yes, this is an inexpensive dress in general, which, this is alisha. Did, and this, in my opinion, here you are just paris hilton, yes, well, nothing, this is some kind, these are some brands, no, this on the right is alisher, yes, this is a russian designer, yes , who dressed us all then, this, this, and the handbag, look, now it s just as fashionable, absolutely, yes, and thats where your bottle fits, which you bought at night on the road, no, its so long, with stained glass, yes, and the sandals, look what they are, well, by the way, theyre also relevant today, yes , and there are boots there, too, remember boots , it was a good time, and if you see it, if you want it, you can find out where this is from the pink dress on the left and i think Alisa Tolkacheva sewed this and more on top there was such a transparent one and pink silk boots, listen, well, there are a lot of russian designers, its that we only used them before, well, this is completely mine, this middle one is, im saying again that the dress is inexpensive, i bought it somewhere, i dont know where, beautifully put together, its already good, you see, why did they even show you a nightmare, listen, well, its clear that our people also have tastes and in my opinion, on the right you spoke somewhere on the new wave, but no, it was song of the year, it was zam, in my opinion, 2002 godish, this is so beautiful here, this is alisher, very beautiful, this is alisher, and what do you have sash, that white fur coat was luxurious, in the photo on the right, my god, i took it, i dont remember, guys, it was the first fur coat, diesel, yes, there was earflaps, actually earflaps from novosibirsk, this is actually my hat, which i wore at home in the winter, a fur coat, and shorts, these are not shorts, dim company panties, ordinary panties, i just folded them with an elastic band, it was dim written, well, company, look, we have a photo of you, i told you all about this, but your coat is still missing coats, and boots, you were talking about boots, there was no point in buying them either, you see, you have this diver. But you have some designer boots here, these are not military ones, these are not sewn on, these are already sewn on, these are on these and these are ordinary panties, im wrong , im scared to death, i think, but yes, just like that, yes, look at this from the polish magazine mladoshch what kind of image is this, these are these pants that we sewed. These are the pants that viktor tsoi and i made, yes, these are arabic, these are in the golf club on mosfilmovskaya, your leather gloves are also embroidered with something, you embroidered them yourself then , but of course, well, someone else from the ballet helped me, but you definitely brought the jacket, and where did i bring the jacket from, yes, there were also suede boots, i i also made these brooches on the sides, boots, but it. It was great, i even know that we were at the same party, i knew my mother anna german, i even have a letter from somewhere there are warsaws, they generally lived modestly, they were not rich, its a pity that i didnt know anna, so i was familiar with with her husband, with brzezhik, with anna germans son, and with her mother, they themselves are from russia, yes, she taught, here is a stone vest, she taught. And the russian in warsaw, in warsaw you also performed , but in 1988, there were some youth evenings, so we performed in warsaw, and in budapest, uhhuh, and this is where you perform, and this could be even in latvia, when the whole party also went and my microphone was turned off, the stadium lights went out, and i started singing santaluchi or solemiu, i dont remember, without a microphone, i i can imagine the acoustics and such, after that there was a flurry of applause, because at that time many people didnt really want to sing live, because the equipment was not the same, so, but even now i sing concerts live and probably this is like an exercise for you , that you can even, at 62 years old, sing live, like an athlete all the time. He plays sports there and this is a continuation of this, this is going on, this is something right there, its shining, some kind of scary photo, were just sitting very close, probably you know how good it is to have oily. Skin, because i didnt do any plastic surgery, nothing and there are no wrinkles, because the skin is oily, i had a cosmetologist, she now lives in another country, she is 85, in my opinion, she was at one time kalinichesky prospekt, new arbat, now Lyubov Orlova was doing cosmetology, that is, this is the story, yes, Lyubov Orlova climbed the stairs so that no one would recognize her, she had a large felt hat, she pulled it on and so that. And passed, this the podcast is not a complete waste of time and we continue our dive into the nineties. Tell me more in addition to clothes, what were the status symbols then, pagers, mobile phones, they just began to appear, limousines, we rented very often, even on new years, when you work several concerts, i specially rented a limousine, its new year, you need a big car, to . On it, so that the dancers could fit in and so on, everything was filmed, well, that is, to drive up in style, you needed a limousine, where would you drive it, how do we turn it around, you wont drive anywhere, as usual, we stopped in the courtyards and walked on foot to the club, thats why hes here, hes not going anywhere will come, no club, well, it was fashionable, in short, it was oh, what else are pagers, mobile phones, saws for me, well, you said that you had a mobile phone, well, the guys immediately gave me a gift when they lost me in moscow, that means. My bullshit, a heavy thing, this one is like this, i quarry, then the guys gave me this one, i didnt know how to call it, ill be honest, but there was a separate thing, separately, no, some kind of bullshit with a handle, here such bullshit with a handle, heres some other wire like that, god, i could only answer when, i didnt know what the hell to dial, im still not friendly with technology at all, ira saw my phone today, well, it was unrealistically cool, that is, if a person with this huge handset had to be pushed out in order to make a call. Some even imitated it in order to seem cooler, they cut off some kind of tube from the phone, the radio tape recorder, like that, adding Something Like, like this is not a radio tape recorder, they turned it around to face them and carried it as if it was theirs, but this is a radio tape recorder, do you remember im taking the radios, dont you remember from the car, so as not to be stolen, hello, i remember breaking windows, of course, i caught that time in cars, its not about me, im a girl, because . And what did you buy for showoffs, for showoffs, there were only clothes, phones, a motorola first, but i take it very calmly, there are artists who want to show off, here i am, here i am, if theres nothing to show off, im just i know my worth, i know that i can come, sing and, as it were, submit to others, and not what car you came in, what you did there, what, well, you know, what kind of collective farm some, and what for you . Fashion, you know, there is such an expression, you are greeted by your clothes, you are escorted by your mind, but i want to say that fashion is an expression of oneself, fashion is beautiful, fashion is this, but you see, there are two more things, you can be fashionable, but you can be stylish , lets say there are a lot of young people now, they come with white sneakers, black pants, wide white shirts, when i. Was driving to you today, im thinking, what should i wear . I dont want to be like everyone else, i somehow changed all this, for example, now many things, say, are not in stores, but i find places where they sell silk and some other things, i change summer shirts there , because i cant wear a tshirt, i think its just like everyone else, theyre kind of sloppy or something some kind of dirt, to come out in a silk shirt, beautiful, smelling good, and well, to be somehow beautiful, i probably dont know, besides the filming, besides the performance, what a beautiful suit i had, its extraordinary , you could dress like that in your life, im wearing it, yes, and this is it, it cost some crazy things at that time, in my opinion, five, no, no, now ill say, winve. Yes, it cost 5,000 euros, i remember exactly, it s a corset, a skirt and, well, a coat, or something, jeans, you still have it, its just