Well, here is our favorite, by the way, eduard fault animinovich limonov, yes, with his edichka , he arrived absolutely in the seventies, in the freshest form he scooped up this russian , so to speak, literary consciousness, so to speak, he scooped up this beatnik drive and managed to rethink it here. Here is a vedicka. Yes, a filter, yes, and launch it into russian culture russian luda great russian literature rating, by the way, it turns out that it is incredibly fresh. Uh, autofix style, this one here. Uh, how like such a kind of dogma . Yes, that is, as an Endless Development of a novel of some kind, that is, all these, of course, are methods that were transmitted through lemon into russian literature. I think that, to be honest, but only at the beginning of such a great path of russian literature that the lighting was now talking there are chances. You know, a few years ago i was surprised to find some articles somewhere on the inscription, which means that many of these literary critics started and so they were ironic that autofiction went, as if in russia listen, i hear a lot criticism towards afterfiction. However, it is completely meaningless is a criticism, because, but there are some well there is a cultural wave. Yes, this is the actual one, and you cant do anything about it. Just again, someone will be talented to do it, someone will do it bad art of modern medicine. I have another version such that we are generally doomed to autofiction. Next years 10. 200. Its just that now, in general, it seems to me, thats such a great literature, especially a large literary form. Its in some kind of this. If not for autofiction, it would be in a big crisis, but , in principle, no one reads novels for a long time. Now everyone is more interested in the short form, in my opinion, the novel short short form and the form, which is based on some kind of reality. That is, here we are now we are now we see, for example, on television a huge number of these reality shows, they even all go out of fashion, but they all go out go out, but they cannot go out. So i think that the future lies in all memories of biographies. But the autofix and people just reach out and pay in rubles, because its real, because you really learn something there on the one hand. Eh, on the other hand. It may be interesting somehow, if its interesting, how stylishly interesting, tasty there i apologize for this word it is written there, then it will be, respectively be consumed, because people will not be some distant terminological things. And when a person is there, here, i know him there. I gave it to you. It turns out that this is where it comes in, and now i also see popularity, it was big in the fifties. In general, one can say that you are an innovator and a pioneer of this approach to creativity in general, when you take your experience, all the more shameful, yes, some kind of negative and just it, open it honestly and show it from your own face. And as you say. Ah, the man who understands er, feels like this experience is real . I would still. Well, i probably would not call him directly an innovator in this, but he really is. Yeah, he made it a classic, you know. Well, i would say so, its not that he came up with it, but hes already driven it in so that you cant screw it up anymore, because by and large there are quite a lot of autofixes. There are quite a few of them, that is, different in every way, there and such and such qualities and that, yes, from everything, but he did it, really talented, firstly, yes, secondly, this is an interesting period of history he managed to shoot a section of this fiftieth, and in america some of these bikers before hippies. We suddenly find out that there was some kind of underground, some people there, so he somehow lived in this way. I mean, its exactly like that. Here is another historical moment. Here, autofixation has a lot of advantages. I say, if its not bad, its written plus its historically interesting, its an interesting character, the authors character is interesting, that is , there immediately goes a chain of some kind, it immediately fits in with some other people a novel of that time there, a memory of others, its such as if, in fact, the universe of these autofishes and memories is such, as it were, that it will give to literature. Im thinking some extra, maybe after some time an extra mod block, because im generally expecting. I expect a cultural explosion , new literary fashion, it will not be so supermassive, but, but i can see it directly, its all spinning in the air. These are literary clubs on topics. Eh, and it will be right. That is, it is there, because peoples brains are destroyed. This is like a home machine. Yes, it is already clear to everyone that literature and texts. Well, uh, the book is the only thing that can somehow include everything. How to assemble, studying the brain. They talk about exactly what reading a letter is. This is direct, lets say to develop it. No. We see in the literature several reasons to return. So seriously, as if this is the most without jokes. That is, this media is very serious. This is a very serious tool, i just know from my own experience, and these are the hardest ones, maybe they can pull out the addiction. And if by this i have a method defined there, even some there are some quotes. Yes sometimes consult there and combine there. Some kind of gymnastics with well, a literary text work, it will be the main one anyway and i know. I know peoples resistance. I mean people resist. So to speak to this tension of the brain. They do not want to read and write. That is, you still need some, as a rule, you have dedicated your life to consumption. If then they are completely dependent on their own sources of income there, and consumption there. They live completely, how to say, the second brain there, the limbic system. Yes i these books, they probably irritate such people, that is, because there is just such direct criticism or the limbic system going on there. Is it so good to consume, is it so good to eat 20 loaves of bread a day, youre used to it, but its great you love its bread there, well, 20 pieces, you weigh 300 kg there. Well, that is, you have it destroyed there. Well, its good, come on, well round it up already. I want you to get answers to questions. Here i take. He is lucky, he is a scoundrel scoundrel. Thats why he such a handsome man came out of all this horror and became a star. And it seems to you that maybe this miracle happened so that we could see some way that he made. Well , of course, he is undoubtedly lucky for me and he was born. Successfully and somehow carried it already. Well, like, well, on the other hand, here are ours. Well , for some reason he killed it incomprehensibly, there he got off something good, but maybe he was not lucky with this. Maybe i dont think so. I think that any kind of person who has gone through a hard experience somehow survived and succeeded. But this now lucky or the person, uh, who did the divik. Yes, its probably just not in this discourse. Yes, here, as it were, this moment is that how could a person be able to leave himself of such a past and create a new one. Yes , because its all to pick out in yourself and redo. It is a pain. Incredible. Its not some switch to switch. Its like a long retraining of habits there, thats all. Equally, i think that its not completely certain that you will somehow change completely right there, because this is not necessary, but if talk about thats it, uh, i take it that they consider him evil, and it seems to me that just when youre like this after all such alterations of yourself, you dont become angry, but you kind of look at people a little like that with such condescension the fact that you are such a good joke to you. Well, nothing like that. In general, not knowing, that is, for a person. Maybe there really can be some kind of injury, and moreover, there really is. Destroy a man cause you know what youre made of. You and how you were made. And what did you have to overcome and you see that in a person has it, but he naively runs barefoot across russia in that direction and you tell him, you know there is a pit, there the abyss will be there, he dont listen. Well, i think that you didnt have this, youre a fool as a result, then you go and look, well, hes sitting in a hole. There, as it were , the minister came to berza and said that he was terribly grumpy and grouchy , animated only when they talked about his petunias as a writer in general. I know thats how it is with the character of hmm, not everything, as it were, is golden. Why because its getting old, you know . All this already outlived everyone, you understand . Already survived all the times. Well, he grew up, and you survived, that is. Well, somehow it seems to me that they are spoiling the character kirill thank you very much for the conversation. This was a podcast, a must read. And im aglaya on the batch file in the director to write. My guest was artist writer arts council kirill shamanov. We talked about the work of william burros. Hi all. This is a free Program Podcast. I am maxim trankov. Well, my todays guest is the champion of russia, which means the leader of our womens team is a student. Eteri tutberidze sofia akatieva. Hello, im very glad to see you. You are the youngest so far that of my guests and for me this is, of course, a special case, tell me from the very beginning. What happened to you . Why did you happen today . Such an insulting injury right at the beginning of the season, but i will try to recover quickly. Now i am actively treated so that there are no consequences of this injury. And as soon as the treatment is over. I will start the recovery. I think that it will pass pretty quickly, i will enter the season. Tell a little to our viewers what kind of Training Camp in novogorsk is, because so many people have heard about it, but very few people know about it. This is the sports base. We train and live there. I really like it there. You like the first person you meet. I love novoborskoe. Its true, and they put programs on us there. There we recover after rest. Then we come to the crystal and prepare for the competition. I really liked the phrase. We are recovering there after the rest. Well, it is. It just happened to me a little differently. I will have recovery apparently later, but this is not a reason to give up , and they let you go home for the weekend. Now they are releasing. Yes, on the weekend you can leave to come, that is, calmly. The main thing is to come to training in the quarantine year. Mom passed on the link through the fence. Well , just met with her there by the fence. I stood talking for a long time, because i was very bored. It was a very long Training Camp, and i was even younger, and it was just hard for me at the beginning, and then i got used to it and somehow it was normal, and last year you already took part in adult competitions. E competed with more experienced rivals. By your age , you are not yet an orc, if we were admitted to International Competitions, then you would compete in new york. Do you think that it was more important for you to participate in domestic competitions, but with experienced adult athletes or would you still like to try to win everyone at the junior level at the international level, i would like to participate both there and there, because i competed in adults. These are completely different emotions compared to juniors. Competitions that came inside russia these were indescribable emotions. Didnt like it very much. This is a great experience for me and it turned out you, and i am very glad about this wine from russia. What about International Competitions . I would also like to perform, of course. But it does not depend on me, and i still hope that we will be able to show ourselves and there you become a leader, just at the very moment of our excommunication from world sports. How do you feel about it . Or the less you know the better you sleep, you havent tried that of course, they dont allow it, but this is not a reason to be not motivated to achieve results and not to do anything to relax. On the contrary, the federation has made us such good conditions so that the athletes do not relax and the athletes can also feel this competitive atmosphere of competition and we have very good competition inside russia and this is a reason to work to keep ourselves in shape so that we can show really good results and show yourself. What do you remember from your first adult season. Here are the most memorable moments, well, there were many memorable moments, because there were interesting competitions. Uh, for the first time i participated in the First Channel cup, i remember it very well, than i remember it over russia. And, probably, another russian challenge, too, when i was awarded this prize. And in general, i liked this whole atmosphere in russian, when it is so creative and creative. Lets talk a little while about the russian challenge since you yourself have touched on this topic, you were the youngest participant in these competitions of this new tournament , the only one in the world that has no analogues. And when you saw the number of figure skating stars you would have to compete with, how did you feel, what emotions did you have . Of course, i was surprised and, uh, it was just such a shock for me that i was included in their list, of course, i wanted to take off getting up so as not to seem insecure against their background. And i wanted to imitate these athletes who have achieved this in sports and i wanted to show myself on the good side too, to show good artistry, the coaches set up such an Excellent Program for me, which i really like. I sat on the moon it wasnt scary. By the way, thats when all this props are already. Um, you can say the calling card of your number. Its really. Very cool props very cool image. E this lunar girl and convey this image to you how . It seems to me that it turned out great, but there were no dangers of a call to the first Training Session, and there is a very huge moon. Its really big, and when they started to lift me, but we dont know yet. At what height and how it was necessary to adjust, the feeling was indescribable, because earlier in my life this had not happened. You said that it was exciting for you to participate with so many olympic world champions and our history of figure skating together in the tournament, the russian challenge. Yes, but you train with the most famous skaters with the champions of the earliest age. Did nt it help you . This, of course, helped, because yes, since early childhood. When i came to the group, just alina and zhenya were preparing for the olympics. I remember this colossal work. I remember that when i was little, i looked at them with such surprise that they were so work. So many skates, so many jumps, it was new for me. I tried to reach out for them and also keep up with trying to do what i can, and then we prepared for the olympics. Sasha with anya from camila. In our group, it was also a tremendous experience for me to watch the stars and take something from them, try to turn on their work and reach for them. I have a slightly tricky question here. But we can replay it. If you find it difficult to answer him, who will you single out from all the girls, from whom did you take an example in sports and maybe, i cant single out one of our professionalism in life, because sasha just has wonderful jumps in five quads in the free program. She just wrote the story with anya, she skates so beautifully, and i have such a transfer of emotions in every program with kamil also excellent jumps, excellent rotation, excellent gliding, and in general, they are all professional talented girls in their own way, when you won the russian championship, what did you feel here you are standing on the podium much more experienced great athletes on a step lower, when i only found out after a free program, but sat in a caisson edge with coaches. And when i found out, it was just a shock for me and a huge gratitude to the coach for the fact that they could and work with me to achieve such a result, but this is not a reason to relax and i need to go on working further to show good results too. Results and at the next competitions sonya well, you are talking about which son of the region, yes in anticipation of the price at the championship of russia i remember that moment perfectly you looked really, very very modestly somehow perceived everything and and for you it , maybe, somewhere it was even some kind of shock, yes, and you are always on the screen, very shy, modest, but in life you are the same or you can a little i can fool around a little, of course, on the screen, but competitions need to keep subordination and discipline, because i cant have fun fooling around there, im collected there. Seriously, but in ordinary life. Well , of course, it is impossible to keep some kind of concentration all the time. Need to have relax and unwind. Well, for those who we just joined. I remind you that this is a free Program Podcast and my guest is the reigning champion of russia in figure skating sofya akatieva. Lets talk about school now. How do you manage to study at school . You are still a schoolgirl and show high sports results. You finished the ninth grade passed the exam. By the way, i passed the oge well everything on the four, that is, the good girl is stable or all of the fourth level, like our figure skating, everything should be the fourth level, i study, i try to emerge on all subjects, and it does not always work. Especially during the period of active preparation for competitions. There , in general, you go into training right away, a quick hitch, then you have a rest. Nothing somehow remains for study, but after the competition. If there is some kind of small break, and i could do more to go to school in the morning to hand over all the work that i wrote and of course, the teachers do not meet halfway. What helps me . If they dont understand something, they also say, come half an hour early, we will help explain and also kuga was preparing with them, they also helped tutors and teachers. And it helped me pass well, many thanks to all the teachers who go to meet our athletes , our skaters and in their difficult adult sports life, also help them study healthy and some knowledge leaves a dream in their bright heads. I often see crystal lessons. Athletes teach. You. It didnt go unnoticed. This is also what i do. Im learning someone was led to exams. This season, too, here, and then i will also continue to prepare the exam. You learn, not just at school. Uh not in a simple b class mathematical easier could not choose, maybe some. And somehow it happened. I wrote some kind of olympics well and by accident. Well, like this, well, ill go and try and thats it. And as it went, so did your mathematics. Another subject is one of my favorites, yes, even biology, that is, maybe in the future you will write some scientific work, where there will be a formula for performing a quadruple or five jump. Well, well see, we dont know yet, i didnt think about it, but its quite possible, why not . Now , if it werent for figure skating, then what would you be did what you like . Well, gymnastics, i like it, but i dont think i would go there, because you have to be tall for this sport. So. I think that all the same, the emphasis would be on study, i would do it, as if figure skating. Tell me who brought you hit hmm i watched the Olympic Games as a child when i was 3 years old. Well, i just remember that athletes skate and jump, and i was so surprised, and i admired and asked my mother to give me skates, then santa claus brought me skates. I went to the skating rink. Went to the preparatory group, first then Oksana Mikhailovna bulycheva. That is, from the first day you train at khrustalny, you are straight from the steel khrustalny yes for many years, and then you moved to the hotel of st. George. Came to view. She trained me for a month at the preview, and she took me. Do you remember that day was happy, or what . Yes, of course, i was shocked. Well, i ve been Training Like this all this month, trying not to make mistakes. Well , i was worried, of course, unusually, because with such adults to this day its been like this for three hours trying not to make mistakes, of course, came to her group. And the grownup girls were just getting ready for the olympics, and i was watching and looking out how they were getting ready, they told me straight away to come to the older group to go for a ride. Thats when it was in general, i was just in such a shock that such adult athletes were with me at training, i was little there, well, well, this was also an experience for me in childhood. Then i got used to it and tried to keep up with e. And you thought that here they are these champions , now im spying on them there, how they train, but after a while i will have to become the same as her. I mean like that, of course. I think there were, of course, i also want to stay known to professionals in their field of activity, and you werent scared because its already working out. Such a step. In a career already an adult sport , the best coaches in the world were not afraid that you would not pull what you could not pull, they were not afraid, but they were afraid to make a mistake. And that they could kick me out, of course, i wanted to stay in this group and ride in it, because i understood that this is the best group in the world. And i am very i wanted to work there, but this is not only the best group of trainers, but also the most demanding group. Well, of course, this is the most demanding of this , and she is the best for those who have just joined us. I remind you that this is a free Program Podcast and i have russian champion sofya akatieva as my guest today. Lets talk a little about your daily routine. How does your usual athlete morning begin . So it starts at 8 00 in the morning, if i go to training right away, if i go to school, then at 7 00 i go further, wash my face. Everything, like an ordinary person, im going to get dressed, im going to training in khrustalny , we have photos 45 minutes before it, you definitely need to warm up so as not to pull anything that i had injuries in the choreography. We are working on plasticity on musicality helps. We, too, warm up to feel our body further with us. Ice is the first Training Session in the morning on it, if we are preparing for the competition , the rental is short, or the work on the free program is further. We have a break in the break lessons lessons tutors rest a little lunch. Yes i forgot to say next we have a warmup. This is ofp or jazz on jazz, we dance to different music. Eh, different genres also help to feel the body to develop musicality, plasticity is also very pleasant for me to dance. Now, if this is not dancing, then we have ufp. This swap comes to us Sergey Viktorovich sergey georgievna, and we pump up, train, well, we do some exercises, we do muscle training, then we jump there on a skipping rope. Well, various exercises to prepare the body further the second workout and there it is most often rolled. At us such an imitated sixminute period, like at competitions even a ripple in our own is on the phone, we pull out a number. You know, probably, then we go out, everything is like we go out at competitions. We are waiting for our number , we are rolling the program further, analyzing everything in a serious way, and they are filming us on tv. Here we have such a special crane, where the analysis of errors is carried out by the regirl, he says to me what to fix. If necessary, then the roll is rolled further, also work on the elements on the ligaments on the rotations on the tracks, then we have a hitch of 45 minutes on the simulators and stretching. On this training day ends further in the evening recovery. Personally, i have. If there are tutors and maximum rest, in order to be in good shape by the next day, too, and ready to continue working. Well, its still, if you didnt do too much wrong, they didnt leave ice with you. How many hours do you dedicate your life to figure skating with gymnastics . Three hitches for about half an hour, it seems to me that somewhere around seven is an almost fullfledged working adult day, that is, if 8 hours is a working day, and how many hours a day do you see your mother, how many this is georgievna more, of course, because i dont see my mother in the morning, because she goes to work earlier most often, and in the evening, well, only in the evening it turns out. Mom, i dont see how it turns out somehow, but this is a sport. And, it happens that it is georgievna who says one thing, but mother does not say another. They are usually at the same time , they are hard for you, that you are one against two of these. I dont mind. We have already found out that you, a child of khrustalny , have been training in this wonderful skating rink from the first day, but now they are building a new one, which is almost completed not sad. He will leave the Crystal House , dear. Yesterday i drove past the crystal new. Hes just so handsome and huge. Well, it will probably be sad, because somewhere around 1012 years. Precisely crystal, it turns out led. I think it will be sad, but i will survive. So i want, of course, a lot of the skating rink interior told that there are two arenas. We have very cool halls there, very cool. Its even interesting, even i wanted to take us to well, so that we could look there. Well, it didnt work out. Well i think soon we will be going there in the near future. Lets talk a little about the coaching team. Uhhuh its three people who are without each other. Such a symbiosis cannot possibly exist. Eat. This is regional. There is danil markovich, there is Sergei Viktorovich tell me the peculiarity of each after all, this is one of them a woman. Yes, a grown man. There is a younger man all of different ages of different temperament absolutely. Tell me who you are with. Well, not easier, or maybe some features of communication with each of them is the main person in our team. She is her decision. In general, it turns out, but she is very strict and all the issues that need to be resolved, we immediately go to her as it is established in our group. Sergey is also very strict. He is very punctual, er, serious, and kind well, he is kind, but where necessary, he is demanding. Yes, where you need to right until you do and you will do Dale Markovich he is more such a creative joke. Can we talk, yes . Simply, well, other topics with everyone went to competitions. And when all three stand like the championship of russia well, sometimes you traveled with Sergei Viktorovich sometimes buildings. Here, tell us what features each one has when they take you to the start. Well, most often now you are georgy, they take me out Holding Hands in front of me. Uh, by the very exit there is already a raid on junior competitions. We went to Sergei Viktorovich, you also feel how worried i am, and he is worried, but still you immediately get ready, and you tune in and i also like to compete with him , he can also set up in training. If there is an error, we fix it right away. Quickly, until she went to other jumps there, because she was seriously very cold as a markovich. I performed first. We competed in this group when we came to the st. George hotel. It was the Junior Championship of russia in saransk and i remember that then i was very worried and was shaking Holding Hands. Im standing here, well, with her i also like it when he takes me out, but it happens less often now, when there are three coaches with me, three georgievna, she is both demanding and at the right time to joke cheer immediately fun with me. Well, youre going to. Well, you are the champion of russia now. And this is also the responsibility of the first number of the Russian National team, especially in womens skating, everyone is ahead of the planet technical. And in principle , this burden of responsibility does not put pressure on you the most. I would not say that it is pressing, but i understand that it cannot be done worse. You need to stay in shape and recover as quickly as possible and show good results, that is, not get worse. Yours to go, but its better for everyone start. There is such a goal. Well, you are already the leader of an adult team. Now you have, uh, a salary from the ministry of sports, what do you spend on, or do you give everything to your mother, but what do i save . Well, of course there is, well, in order to buy something from cosmetics, gifts to someone , money is spent on this, but i want to save up for now , i would like to save up for an apartment, so that by 18 00 from my mother. Well, just to make the apartment so calmer, it seems to me, clearly pragmatic brother, you need to heal the apartment or come yourself. My brother probably wants his too an apartment for himself, but he does not envy your success, or maybe, on the contrary, he is proud of you that they take you for autographs. Here he asks me. And how is it here . And how is it like this, and how is it to give out autographs at 15 years old . Im 15 years old double share, just jumped. Uh, autographs its very nice that people want to get it and sometimes even such an indescribable feeling, but now im used to it. And you like to perform in ice shows. Yes, i love it. I love. And now, and i am speaking as a champion on ice. I really like it. Its special such a time leading i like it, the host is generally cool here. Lets talk about other sports. You recently took part in the week of track and field athletics in moscow uhhuh and whose idea was it with the girls to run at the same time to cross the line together . Finish . Ah, yes, so that friendship wins. It seems to me that this is the best outcome of events and therefore won him, as i just ran to her. Stopped and everything was dynamic. My leg, probably, somehow ran faster there, because i am the current champion. No, no, it was written to me later. But i dont on the contrary, i dont want it to be, i wanted us all together, but in the end it turned out to be accepted with humor. You are only at the beginning of your long journey, and this is the least that you can read bad things now, or whether it will still be training for you, in general, as with the internet you read comments, nasty things, you read, there is no time. Well, somehow sometimes i see excerpts, but dont read, well, i wont. Yes, i will try to read all the adult champion athletes who are already resting on their laurels and were guests of this one. I was remembered in my memoirs that in vain we read the internet. In vain we read the comments, many reproach themselves for this, so do not read. Fine. Use the experience of past generations. By the way, i dont read, i wont and didnt read well. And there are come across. I. Them. What did you remove from your heart . Won well . Sonechka thank you very much for coming. You really brightened up our broadcast tonight. I wish you a speedy recovery so that you can show me your gorgeous masquerade waltz at the test skates. Im rooting for you. You know, thanks for coming. Thank you for invitation