i m katie phang. we start today s show with more new evidence from the january 6th committee. they ve released more transcripts today, including interviews with critical players like donald trump s son don junior and top adviser stephen miller. miller admitted being told of a march to the capitol, telling the committee, quote, i think there might be, like, a plan for there to be a, you know, a peaceful walk to the capitol. the transcripts also revealing don junior was perturbed by the capitol insurrection. the committee questioning him about a text he wrote to meadows advise them to consemithis s stuff, don junior saying he was referring to the violence that s going on. even noting the hypocrisy of it all, saying, i spent the last 18 months call out violence and looting. but the committee alleges trump knew about the violence and didn t want to stop it. remember this critical testimony from former white house aide cassidy hutchinson. i overheard the president say somethin
this the biggest tech failures of 2022. among them, meta, amazon alexa, and peloton all falling short of expectations. and on the legal front, one-time crypto king sam bankman-fried arrested on fraud charges until the bahamas just weeks after elizabeth holmes was sentenced so more than 11 years from prison for similar charges the guardian aptly calling 2022 the year of the grifter. joining me now the perfect to talk about all this and more. roger mcnamee. he was the author of zucked waking up to the facebook catastrophe. love having you here. let s start with the first question to you big money backers continue to bank roll these ideas by these larger than
stop hate for profit and the author of the book zucked waking up to the facebook catastrophe. he s on the west coast and always makes a great sacrifice to get up and talk us to. good to see you. we re not talking about the first amendment. people misinterpret the first amendment. is this the right thing to do? for people who are not going to shut up, is it important for us and is it actually useful for our democratic dialogue for them to be pushed into some corner where they will continue to have their conversations, but now in a bubble of like-minded people? so, ali, i think the underlying problem here is the architecture like internet platforms like facebook and like twitter are based on attention. so they re going to amplify content that grabs our attention and for most people that s going to be stuff that s inflammatory.
that s incredibly dangerous not just for democracy, and we ve seen this with the covid pandemic. we ve seen this with the insurrection a year ago. these were direct results of allowing the platforms to continue to operate without regulation and it seems to me that you re going to continue to have disasters like that right up until the moment when you have sensible, safety regulations, sensible privacy regulations and some sort of regulation for competition that allows alternatives to come to market. roger, it s good to see you as always, we always appreciate your analysis and your expertise. roger mcnamee is an early investor in facebook and google. he s the author of zucked the facebook catastrophe. michael steele and olivia troy help us make sense of the gop, if that s possible. and d.c. attorney general karl racine on democracy. another hour of velshi begins
may have misled its own oversight board. facebook s ceo mark zuckerberg stroke a defensive tone to say the least and blamed media during his company s quarterly earnings call. good faith criticism helps us get better. but my view is that what we re seeing is a coordinated effort to selectively use leaked documents to paint a false picture of our company. the reality is that we have an open culture where we encourage discussion and research, about our work, so we can make progress on many complex issues that are not specific to just us. joining me now is roger mcnamee, early facebook investigator and mentor to mark zuckerberg, the author of zucked: waking up to the facebook catastrophe. thank you for being with us. what do you make of that defiant aggressive reaction from mark zuckerberg to all these revelations, he s saying it is a