About fighting corruption, we should also say specifically, burisma in 2016. Mr. Yermak provided me a statement. I wanted to be assured that this statement would actually correct the perception that mr. Giuliani had of ukraine and what they stand for now so that that would also be conveyed to President Trump and solve this problem that i had observed with our may 23rd meeting with the president. The problem being that he is getting a bad set of information, a Statement Like this could potentially correct that. Was mr. Guiliani satisfied with the statement . No, he was not. He believed it needed to say burisma and 2016 specifically or else it would not be credible, would not mean anything. So in fact, mr. Guiliani wanted a statement that Referenced Burisma and the 2016 elections explicitly. One that would benefit, essentially, President Trump. It is to invest or come here is the text you sent to the ukrainian official on August August 13th. Lets put that up on the screen. You said, hi,
Ukraine had a statement about Fighting Corruption and mr. Yermak would say burr mace in 2016. Mr. Yermak provided me a draft statement, and i wanted to be assured that this statement would actually correct the perception that mr. Giuliani had of ukraine and what they stand for now so that that would also be conveyed to President Trump and solve this problem that id observed with our may 23rd meeting with the president. The problem that hes getting a bad set of information, Statement Like this could potentially correct that. So was mr. Giuliani satisfied with this statement . No, he was not. Why not . He believed that it needed to say burisma and 2016 specifically or else it would not be credible, it would not mean anything new. So, in fact, mr. Jewel yagiu wanted it to State Burisma and
one specifically for President Trump. Mr. Ambassador, heres the text you sent to the ukrainian official on august 13th, lets put that up on the screen. You said hi, andre. Good talking. Following is the
Giuliani. Mr. Giuliani said they thought ukraine should make a statement about Fighting Corruption and mr. Yermac provided me a draft statement and i wanted to be assured that this statement would actually correct the perception that mr. Giuliani had of ukraine and what they stand for now so that that would also be conveyed to President Trump and solve this problem that i had observed with our may 23rd meeting with the president. The problem being that hes getting bad set of information. A Statement Like this could potentially correct that. So was mr. Giuliani satisfied with this statement . No, he was not. Why not . He believed it needed to say burisma and 2016 specifically or else it would not be credible, it would not mean anything. So in fact mr. Giuliani wanted a statement that Referenced Burisma and 2016 elections explicitly. One that would benefit
essentially President Trump. Mr. Ambassador, heres the text you sent to the ukrainian official august 13th. You said hey andrey good
zelensky regime has mayor giuliani interacted with in addition to mr. yermak which we ve talked about and the former attorney general mr. lutshenko. i am aware that he met with mr. lutsenko. that s not within the current regime in which in which we are talking about. i don t know who else he would have met with. in as few words as possible what was your understanding of ambassador sondland s role in ukraine. he cared about ukraine. he wanted to see u.s. support for ukraine increased and he wanted to see european union support for ukraine increased and he wanted to be helpful. was ambassador sondland having conversations with officials without letting people know. i don t believe he was not letting people know.
for your clear and sober testimony today. did you participate in or overhear any conversation about how political information collected by ukraine on the bidens would be used for political gain? no, sir, . ambassador volker, same question. did you participate in or overhear any conversations about how potential information collected by ukraine on the bidens would be used for political gain? no, i did not. there s been a lot of discussions about a text exchange you had with mr. yermak on august 12 that talked about this proposed statement. and mayor giuliani provided some feedback on what he thought needed be included to that. it did mayor giuliani get feedback from the president on what should go into that proposed statement? i have no reason to think that he had discussed it with the president. based on your recollection, ambassador volker, who was in the zelensky regime has