questions, took the fifth. but one of the questions was interesting. which was, isn t it true you told your wife to not be present in d.c. on january 6th. getting at that he had for knowledge there would be violence. that s the kind of thing, if you are the department. you have a number of things you can do. he took the fifth in response to that question. exactly, you are trying to figure out if you are in the government, how do you get admissible proof about that. he is a friend of your friend. a friend of a friend rachel. from peter navarro in the white house. you can talk to a spouse and put her in the grand jury. the other thing that can happen, which congress did not do is decide you know, we are probably unlikely to be able to make a criminal case here. or this person has such important evidence that we are going to immunize them. and if you immunize, then you can t take the fifth anymore. it forces you to have to
thank you very much for that update. let s bring in vice provost of global initiatives and former member of the biden covid task force and also the author of which country has the world s best healthcare. it s just mind-boggling to think that we re creeping towards a million cases a day, and hospitals are once again about to buckle, and some are buckling at this moment. how do we get out of this? well, we get out of it by using all the techniques we know. if you immunize someone today, it s not going to have an effect for weeks because the body has to produce antibodies, you need a second shot. we have important measures, air p p purifiers that we can put in classrooms.
he received from the committee and later his conviction was thrown out because it was found and determined prosecutors used evidence that was independent of his own testimony. because it was so public, it was impossible to know what people knew before and what people knew after his testimony. there is that risk that anyone you immunize, you may be giving up the opportunity to prosecute them. maybe that s okay. maybe there s some people you re willing to give up to get higher level people whose conduct is more egregious. but it would be important to coordinate that with the doj because you want to step on somebody s toes and immunize somebody who, it turns out, had very criminal conduct. frank, i want to, not picking and choosing while you re on the air but get to this, the washington post reported in a memo to the trump allies that floated the idea of using nsa data to find proof of also fraud that doesn t exist. how does that undermined
say that the mitigation efforts that california uses works that outcomes are measurably better in states that clamp down early and hard? well, certainly, there s a big relationship, kim, between vaccination rates and hospitalizations and deaths. but the relationship between the other mitigation factors like masking, et cetera, is much more controversial. and probably only helps to a certain point. but they do sort of temper the way i think about it, the vaccine is the cake. and the masking, the social distancing, that s the icing on the cake. but there s so many other factors like immunity, you who you immunize, on a playing field here. if you compare california to florida, for example, florida was open in the same way that possibly the uk was. and california wasn t, but they ended up pretty much in the same place, but if you look at