It s an amazing thing that a photographer chronicles pretty much every minute about presidency and i only know the times i would interview you or be around you that that was the you case. wew the first picture that stood out to me and i to question about it and you wrote all the captions to all the pictures. barack and michelle obama get ready to depart washington. did you ever speak to them since then? not much. initially right after i took office i did. one or two times quickly. i spoke to them before taking i spoke to them before taking office. that s sort of a ritual that you go through. it was 15 minutes and it ended up being really normally it would be 15 and it ended up being quite a little bit longer than that to put it mildly. it was a very interesting conversation, he was telling me about north korea and the problems, and probably the greatest problem we had which i to a large extent solved.