That time. they talk to other associates. talked to other people that could kind of close the gaps that they are not getting from these other people that have stonewalled them and it is this is evidence. this is, as you say, bearing fruit that the investigation is making progress. and just back to my legal question for a second, because i m still confused. the reason they wouldn t want to subpoena a colleague is because they don t think that the department of justice would support that? why is that such treacherous terr territory? right. so i think it is a little bit of what goes around what comes around. let s go with straight legal. clearly the committee could issue a subpoena to jim jordan and other members. there is the speech and debate clause but that doesn t apply to protect congressman. they could issue a subpoena. if jim jordan rejects it, then tove to decide whether they hold him in contempt. there is a couple of concerns. if we hold him in contempt, will doj charge jim