of covid when we told people, do not come to work, we will shut you down. that will be the consequence if industries do not have enough employees. stop with the mandates, you have to let these things take time, and ultimately, maybe become successful as the childhood vaccines come to accept. you do not do it through mandates, yet. harris: do you know i love about what are you just said, he is looking down the road. where we are with society and policy and politics in all of that, we have to look down the road. where do we want to be with this virus? we want to be stuck where we are right now, another two years from now? what do we need to do? if the mandates are not working, can we nuance our plan and base and more on science? i don t know. i am just asking the questions. what are your thoughts? i think it will continue to be on a state-by-state basis, where you see some more draconian methods that the people will call this from, mayor de blasio. in blue states. and then more open