tammy. and we didn t know them that well. so, we didn t think that had happened. we lanny gunther, an old friend and former bookie, testified that four months before the murders brett was talking about separation. my advice to him, if he being that it was coming up on the holidays. for him to try to go home and work out with tammy and at least get through the holidays for the kids state. and then after the first of the year, for them to try to get back together. and if separation was their option them, then so be it. a bad marriage is one thing, murder is another. so prosecutors turned to a different motive. money. unbeknownst to tammy, brett was in deep debt. he had made the biggest mistake he bookie can make, he gambled himself. and brett was it too good at. it gunther told an investigator bright obtain big money. i just told him that his own account. the hundred thousand, 1000. and this was not the first