Not dennis rodman. it s kenneth bay s family, who is really hurt, really scared. he s in a precarious position in a country that doesn t see the united states as access. we are pushing hard as well. i m sorry rodman is in the middle of this. it doesn t make any sense to me, suzanne. it never has. i didn t believe our producers when we first started covering the rodman story here with everybody else. i didn t believe it. at first. i thought that jimmy kimmel was spoofing us. but now that it s proven all too real, i wish that he becomes irrelevant as soon as possible. but right now he s getting attention for this story. i ll take it. i m a little happy it wasn t in person. i don t know what would have happened. i m a little old. he reached across believe me, he reached across the world. reporter: you may have been talking to me horizontally now. bedside. can you hear me? i can only imagine. chris, thank you very much. and i really do hope that you guys end up discussing this ag