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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 04:03:00

Walked home. we means veronica ord, then almost 14 years old, and her younger brother, paul. and i remember halfway down the road, remembering that i forgot my key. but the closer we got to the house, i had seen my sister s car. so i said, oh, okay, cool. you know, i don t i don t need the key. you know, she s home. then she noticed the door wasn t quite closed. it was closed, but it wasn t latched. like you could just pull on it and the door would open. i remember walking in and oprah was on the tv. what did you assume when you saw the door open and the tv on? i thought maybe she left in a hurry. maybe she went with a friend, you know, and she just didn t close the door all the way. she was tara, veronica s older sister, not quite 20 then. veronica called out. no answer. she walked through the house, bathroom light was on. i went and looked in the bathroom and then i went in our bedroom and i d seen her purse and everything on top of her dresser. so then, i

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 04:54:00

Obviously that was a goal of hers. so i did feel a connection to her, thinking about her and where she would ve been at my age now. and the defendants now on trial? phil barr owned a septic tank repair business, dave mcmannis was his helper the day tara disappeared. the detectives had learned that barr used his business as a cover for stealing from the homes of unsuspecting customers. and here s what happened, said the state, that first of october, 2001: tara s landlord asked barr for a repair estimate. barr and his helper, mcmannis, began their work-day by smoking crack. around noon, four hours before veronica arrived home from school, the men most likely knocked on the door and tara let them in, unaware they had robbery not work on their minds. dave mcmannis was taking the property while barr was distracting her in the bathroom. we believe she found out. she heard something or saw something that mr. mcmannis was doing, where he was in a place he shouldn t have been and she confro

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 04:04:00

Where would she be without her purse? cause that wasn t usual. so that s when i had called keith. keith was keith mcphillips, her mom s fiance he was just leaving work, told veronica he was thinking of stopping for coffee with a friend on his way home. then veronica told him about tara, that her purse was home, but she wasn t. what did you think when she told you that? well, just something wasn t right. because if tara was gonna go somewhere, i knew she wouldn t leave her stuff or her car. she would have said, i won t be here when the kids get here. that s how responsible she was. sure. keith canceled the coffee plan, drove straight home. as soon as i got home, it just didn t look right. there was all kinds of tracks on the floor and i said, what are these marks on the floor? and she said, i don t know. tracks? muddy footprints. muddy footprints in the living room and master bedroom. and something else something only those who lived there would know. in t

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 04:25:00

This, you know? you just hope and pray everyday that she s alive. but it was her. it was tara. enough of the teeth were there to to make a positive identification that it was tara. by then, sharon and keith were at home, waiting for the results. detective gandy went to tell them. that s never easy, huh? hardest thing you ever have to do. and then when they come to your door with clergy you see them coming? yeah. then the reality is that s it, you re never gonna see her again. it s so devastating. it s the worst pain ever. she didn t belong out there. 284 days after tara vanished, they knew, finally, she was

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 04:09:00

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