this war. and that he has his own war logic. that s really not based in reality. what did you think when you heard that? this seems to fit in with the putin that s becoming more and more apparent over the past few months. this is a putin who believes that the international community isn t going to come and fight him in ukraine. that he the worst that his soldiers can face, weapons systems and intelligence being supplied to the ukrainians. that this is not an international community that s going to come in and force russian troops out. the more territory he believes he can take now that he s going to be able to hold onto it in the future. his aim is to diminish the economic stability, the political stability of ukraine to try and reduce its capacity to have a negative impact on russia, to try to reduce its value as he sees it to nato. the key thing here is that putin has calculated that the
today. and tonight we are also learning more about the tense meeting where austria s chancellor confronted vladimir putin about the war s growing carnage. i think he is now in his own war logic. he thinks the war is necessary for security guarantees for the russian federation. he doesn t trust the international community. he blames the ukrainians to for genocide, genocide in the donbas region. i think he believes he is winning the war. and here more details coming out of ukraine tonight. some 100,000 civilians are believed trapped in mariupol. ukraine s president says some 5,000 children there were deported to russia, and there s no evidence where they are now. the regional governor says as many as 22,000 people have been killed in the city since the beginning of the war.
forces still managed to push the russians back, east of the city. and mariupol, a port city under relentless siege since the war began. official there saying russian forces will stop people from entering or leaving beginning tomorrow. we re going to have more on that in just a moment, but we re also learning more about a tense meeting with austria s chancellor where he confronted vladimir putin about the war s growing carnage. i think he is now in his own war logic. you know, he thinks the war is necessary for security guarantees for the russian federation. he doesn t trust the international community. he blame ukrainians for genocides in the donbas region. i think he believes he is winning the war. ukrainian president volodomyr zelenskyy says his country is in a daily state of heartbreak over
austrian chancellor karl nehammer who met last week with vladimir putin and heard a list of grievances. i think he is now in his own war logic. you know, he thinks the war is necessary for security guarantees for the russian federation. he doesn t trust the international community. he blames ukrainians to for genocide, genocide in the donbas region. i think he believes he is winning the war. the chancellor, who was the first western leader to sit down with putin since the start of the invasion, says he s concerned about massive battle preparation for the disputed donbas region and fears what he calls many losses of human lives. we ve already seen far too many there. well, an increasingly defiant president zelenskyy tells cnn that urk rein is not willing to give up territory in the eastern part of the country to end the
a time to make them believe me. reporter: scott mclean, cnn, narva, estonia. austrian chancellor karl nehammer seems to have a full grasp on what is unfolding on the ground in ukraine, but has his own, quote, war logic. have a listen. when you heard our cia director talk publicly about the concerns that when putin is cornered, he might do something like use a tactical nuclear weapon, the person you sat down with, do you think that s a person who might use a nuclear weapon? it s a tough question. i think he knows that he has this weapon, and he knows the threat of this weapon. so i don t know if he really use it. but he knows that he threaten the world with these weapons.