you have something like 40,000 ukrainian troops according to president zelenskyy who are already dug in. they re in trenches, garrisoned. they are battle hardened. that is going to be a hard mass for the russians to surround and essentially try to pound. so what the ukrainians have to do right now so they can get access to all of this weaponry that 30 countries are rushing in, they have to keep the supply lines open and when oeurope goe into that area that is being contested, they can get a lot of that equipment to their forces and then it becomes force on force to pound each other and see which one has enough supplies and the will to survive. kimberly, president zelenskyy saying now this war for donbas, the battle for donbas, this