this shows, according to the brennan center for justice, 19 states passing 34 restrictive voting laws last year. as the former assistant secretary of state for democracy, human rights and labor under the obama administration, does this have you worried at all? do you think that democrats can turn the tide here? well, of course it has me worried. i care about american democracy. i care about america being a good example for the rest of the world. but, again, what worries me the most, there are different levels here. there are efforts that we are trying to make that i think are 100% right to expand access to the ballot box, to make it easier for people to vote by mail, to vote with drop boxes, to vote early. i want to see those things happen. we can probably survive as a democracy if not all of those things happen. we cannot survive as a democracy if we allow pro-trump republicans in these states to basically say, we don t care who