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Transcripts For MSNBC Dateline 20240706

my heart breaks. casinos, charisma, connections. he was mr. big. he was very dark flamboyant. extremely charming. his murder was big to. a car explosion at a posh resort, somebody wanted to make a statement. who would want him dead? or who wouldn t? a string of angry investors, even whispers about the mob. everybody went, oh, this is mob connected. so why would police focus on her, a beautiful socialite, ex-wife number two? she was very intoxicating. i think she was cold and calculating. maybe her former husband was worth more dead than alive. it s easy to blame the rich, beautiful woman. she s the person everyone loves to hate. but she is completely innocent. or maybe it was someone else entirely. he is obsessed with gary triano, obsessed with him. it s a case we investigated for more than five years. now a stunning new end. we are going back up under a rollercoaster. spend a little time in tucson, arizona and here, in the shadows of the majes

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Transcripts For MSNBC Dateline 20240707

everybody went, oh, this is mob connected. so why would police focus on her, a beautiful socialite, ex-wife number two? it was very intoxicating. i think she was cold and calculating. maybe her former husband was worth more dead than alive. it s easy to blame the rich, beautiful woman. the person everyone loves to hate. but she is completely innocent. or maybe it was someone else entirely. he is obsessed with gary triano, obsessed with him. it s a case we investigated for more than five years. now a stunning new in. we are going back up under a rollercoaster. spend a little time in tucson arizona and here, in the shadows of the majestic saguaros you will find a thriving metropolis of 1 million people, with a surprising small town feel. it s the kind of place where everyone seems to know everyone. and if you ask anyone from tucson where they were on november 1st, 1996, they will tell you it was the day of a murder. so dramatic, so horrific they will never f

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:29:00

but while pam was looking for the right deal in aspen, back in tucson, gary triano was feeling uneasy. gary said, i think we are being followed. i just thought, you are starting to scare me, dude. [laughs] taylor showbergh, his girlfriend at the time, says was gary was convinced that someone was following him. i remember asking him, why would anyone want to follow you? and he said, because of a life insurance policy. turns out gary was insured for $2 million. his children, trevor and lois were the beneficiaries. until they turned 18, though, the money was controlled by their mother, pam. they had gone through a nasty divorce? yes. there were child custody battles and visitation battles. so it would be natural that you would be looking at her. yes.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:30:00

yes. child custody battles and visitation battles. so it would be natural that you would be looking at her. yes. reporter: but detective james gamber s investigation showed that pam was in aspen, not tucson, on the day of the murder. and pam the socialite certainly seemed more bombshell then bomb maker. and so pam phillips is probably not someone you thought was thinking around building a pipe bomb? no. reporter: detective james gamber and his team seemed to be had another dead end, until an alert detective 800 miles away caught a news report about the bombing. and some bells went off. coming up . they found a note in the car, buy toothpaste, and down a little further was saw off shotgun.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:29:00

Aspen, back in tucson, gary triano was feeling uneasy. gary said, i think we are being followed. i just thought, you are starting to scare me, dude. [laughs] reporter: taylor show bergh, his girlfriend at the time, was gary was convinced that someone was following him. i remember asking him, why would anyone want to follow you? and he said, because of a life insurance policy. reporter: turns out gary was insured for $2 million. his children, trevor and lowest for the beneficiaries. until they turned 18, though, the money was controlled by their mother, pam. they had gone through a nasty divorce? yes. child custody and visitation battles. so it would be natural that you would be looking at her. yes. reporter: but detective james gamber s investigation showed that pam was in aspen, not tucson, on the day of the murder.

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