Shortly, and if there are any developments there with respect to the two secretaries, the secretary of state the secretary of defense, we re going to come right back to rafts and chives. joining me now is bill browder, the head of the global magnets he just his campaign which seeks to get sanctions imposed on violation abusers and corrupt governments around the world. he s the author of a brand-new one important book, the freezing order, a true story of money laundering, murder and surviving vladimir putin s wrath. which details his life as a target of russian officials since the mid 2000s. bill, good to see you. i think it s really important to mention that there are things in your book, your first book, read notice, that flew under the radar for some people. and then they read, it and it was the first time people understood what had happened in post soviet russia. how people got enriched, how these oligarchs became the oligarchs that they are. they re such remarkable, granular deta