think if the russian activities in the donbas produced a quick and relatively easy success, in other words, they beached the ukrainians quickly and at low cost, they might be more ambitious, they might turn again on odesa, they may try and advance towards the dnipro river, which cuts ukraine in half and they may think about putting kyiv under more pressure. if the fight for the donbas is as hard as i think it probably will be, they may find it is a bit of a pyrrhic victory, they may take territory at a cost which means they cannot do very much more. and everyone will recognise that ukraine is never going to accept its lost territory in this way and those of us that support ukraine will take the same view. of us that support ukraine will take the same view. which means fighting could to on the same view. which means fighting could go on for the same view. which means fighting could go on for years the same view. which means fighting could go on for years and the same view. which m