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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20210814 09:39:00

The more you learn about her? she s very lost. she wants to be loved by anyone and everyone. and jaclyn saw that there was one person in particular annie wanted to be loved by. chris bagshaw. his name was scribbled all over her journals. veronica remembered annie gushing about him. she liked him. he was different. he had enough of the bad boy going on that he wasn t a goody two-shoes, so she didn t feel like he looked down on her. annie s diaries revealed something else too. she and chris had sex. chris was the boy annie had slept with just months before her death, after, which remember, she lied about being pregnant. i am starting to think that she made up the pregnancy to keep chris around because he didn t want to be with her anymore. next, jaclyn pored over annie and chris s phone records from the night of the murder. not only was chris the last person annie spoke to, but the pattern of their calls spoke volumes.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20210814 09:45:00

September 1st, 2013. it was 6:00 a.m. derek johnson, once the lead detective on annie s murder case, was now a sergeant. he was just finishing his graveyard shift and headed back to the station when he noticed a car parked on the side of the road. it looked like a stranded motorist. derek stopped to help but never made it out of his car. that motorist had a gun, and he was angry. . draper police chief brian roberts. and he fired at derek johnson while he was sitting in the driver s seat of his car. derek, wounded, tried to drive away but lost control and crashed head-on into a tree. he died at the scene. it was hard. yeah, it sucked. it you have to give me a second.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20210814 09:17:00

the information it s an asian woman under 20, i think, was the initial report, that would seem to rule out annie, certainly. initially we re thinking, no, that s not possible, that there s no way. but then a detail sergeant carpenter shared with salt lake city s nbc affiliate ksl-tv. there was a shoe found at the crime scene, and there was one on the body. a red shoe. the same kind james had bought annie for valentine s day just weeks earlier. veronica and james tried to stay calm. we called the police and we said, hey, our daughter s missing. i think logically i was going, they re just going to rule it out. i just need them to rule it out. but they couldn t rule it out. after i called the police i called my parents to come and pick up our boys, and i just started sobbing. police soon determined the 20-something asian victim was really 15-year-old annie kasprzak. she had been killed by blunt force trauma to the head. veronica and james thought the rapid pinging of a

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20210814 09:57:00

The charge because you re guilty of it? yes, your honor. chris s attorney said chris wanted to take responsibility if what he had done. all right. then as to count one, murder, a first-degree felony, how do you plead? guilty, your honor. a guilty plea, confirming what jaclyn had pieced together over the years of her investigation. and she had a theory about how it all went down. so march 10th, annie is discussing over the phone what her options are for her baby with chris. and chris is telling her he s come up with a plan, and they can run away and be together. jaclyn thinks chris really believed annie was pregnant. so he persuaded her to meet him at the river. but chris has no intent on running away. chris s only reason for being there is to kill her. so he just starts beating her until she dies. turns out to be a very sloppy crime. the amount of blood. mm-hmm. i feel that he betrayed annie more than he betrayed us.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20210814 09:26:00

During her interview, she started telling detectives about a young girl she had seen a week prior. the cops thought some of what she said sounded eerily similar to annie s case. so they called draper p.d., and detective derek johnson and his colleague came over to hear what joanna had to say. tell me what you know about this girl. it was the second time i ve seen her over there. there, at the home where a man named daniel ferry used to live. danny ferry is a guy known to law enforcement. yes. as maybe a drug dealer? drug dealer. he was a member of a gang called vario loco town. and law enforcement has dealt with danny quite a few times, yeah. ferry had a long rap sheet. in fact, derek had served a search warrant on his home a year earlier. and now here was joanna telling derek that she saw a girl who sounded a lot like annie at daniel ferry s home on the night annie was killed. joanna also said the girl showed up with someone police had been

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