underexamined. how it exacts mental health. many people experience ptsd after disasters, after things like this hit their community, while others experience that trauma secondhand, manifesting in depression or anxiety and others struggle over a nagging fear of the state of the planet. dr. lisa van susstren is a psychologist who focused on climate change and so the co-authority of emotional inflammation, discover your triggers and reclaim your equilibrium . so good to see you. thank you for having me. this is a really important conversation. i m glad we re having it. it really is and these are anxious times for so many reasons. so what is it about the climate crisis that is so potent from a mental health standpoint? well, we talk a lot about the