workers here in america quit their jobs in march. many left to seek higher pay, better benefits, or a new career altogether. as the vaiavailability of new j rose to 4.5 million, all this movement in the labor market, american businesses are still having a hard time finding and retaining staff. so i want to talk about this further with the president of working nation, jane oates. she s a former u.s. department of labor official and served during the obama administration. thank you very much for being with us. i want to ask you about people quitting and are they going back to work? are they just finding other jobs? is this a pandemic issue that really ended up highlighting an issue that had been existing all along? thank you very much for having me. thanks for talking about this