unpopularity. and precious cargo. the u.s. military, an air lift touches down in middle america with a critical shipment on board. 500,000 bottle s worth of baby formula. but we begin the hour in tokyo. president biden dispensing with diplomacy to deliver a stern warning to china. you didn t want to get involved in the ukraine conflict militarily for obvious reasons. are you willing to get involved militarily to defend taiwan if it comes to that? yes. you are? that s a commitment we made. we agree with one china policy. we signed onto it. and all the attendant agreements immediate from there. but the idea that it can be taken by force, just taken by force, is just not appropriate. the president did not spell out just what military involvement might mean, and the white house insists the president s answer does not alter american policy. but it does rip up the careful script presidents normally follow on the taiwan issue. we start our coverage in tokyo with jeremy dia
there s so many folks in iowa that don t participate in that caucus, that you can go out, you can engage. you know how many votes you need to win iowa? 85,000, 90,000. that s it. so, there s a huge opportunity to actually engage them one on one in a retail politics style, which frankly i know how to do very well. so, if you did end up running, you are confident that you would have won the new hampshire primary? you would have beaten donald trump? if i had done well in iowa. if i hadn t done well in iowa, it s not going to happen. my supporters would have moved on. another part of the chatter, which i m sure you heard, well, if chris sununu runs, it will potentially take the new hampshire primary off the table. and that s not something that most people in new hampshire who very much cherish the first in the nation primary status and all that comes with it, were excited about. how much did that factor in?
and if there s really a space for him to take on trump and win, yeah, i think he ll probably do it. those are two big ifs, and there s got to be a lot more time to elapse. a lot more polling and to your point, your original point asking the question, there s this time, this period of time for him to make himself more of a national figure, how does ron desantis do that. how does he make his case without up running for president to position himself to run for president. we re going to have to see. we will have to see. nbc s marc caputo, thank you very much. and you know, katty, you have ron desantis in a pretty good position. donald trump, every three or four days, it seems, does something that completely undermines his ability to be a successful candidate in a general election campaign. his legal woes continue to mount, and it seems that ron desantis is sitting back and living by the old proverb, never interfere with your enemy when he s destroying himself, it appears to be the govern
secretary of state. why? because they refused to help him cheat in 2020. today he s holding a rally for purdue. that call after his former vice president, mike pence, will campaign for brian kemp. our reporters are back with us to discuss. it s kemp versus purdue, trump versus pence. it is absolutely trump versus pence in the state. i m told pence got involved because kemp is a former governor like him. he got to know him well. he did see this as personal. but look the elephant in the room is clearly donald trump. and the former vice president knew exactly what he was doing when he got involved in this race. and this really is a potential test of 2024 powers here if both pence and trump end up running. we re seeing an early test of that with some of the endorsements in the races. and the georgia race is usually important. i want to come back to the governor and the secretary of state. that matters in that state. let s stick with trump, pence in
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