businesses, they won t have the opportunity to opt out with regular testing. the punishment has yet to be disclosed but it s another incident where the unvaccinatered facing a new level of restrictions, even though those who have had covid have natural immunity. a look across the pond shows how many european nations, even the vatican, are willing to treat people who have had covid the same as those vaccinated. i want to bring in an infectious disease expert of the university of california at san francisco. if you were advising mayor de blasio, would you say you need to treat those who have had covid the same as you re treating the vaccinated? yes, actually, i would tell him to treat the people who have been recovered from covid the same as the vaccinated. why? because at this point, december 2021, we have a lot of data that, not just immunologically