Trump is helping him with any of that. so, when he goes to meet there, maybe he is just setting up a deal. maybe he is setting up another deal. we don t know. we do know that former bernie kerik, the former new york city police commissioner and an underwriter coconspirator in the georgia case, has been offering some help to help him coordinate his efforts. here we do know this. rudy giuliani cannot get through this without having a lawyer down there. it will be interesting to see who he comes up with. and where that lawyer instructs him to go. you mentioned that one way street of loyalty that the former president you have got to wonder about the people who were very close, who did the most open, vociferous defending, we are they feel like they stand right now, especially, if, like rudy giuliani, they seem to be in a bit of trouble. and who is the man next to him? this bernie kerik? yeah, bernie kerik, the former new york city police commissioner who has been helping rudy giuliani