it s nuts you re wrong. james deficits go up under republicans more than they go up under democrats. that s an empirical fact we should stop reciting the nonsense on tv republicans care about deficits they don t care about deficits then they cut social programs. nobody objected to listen, i think generally republicans in the past have talked about things like medicare i think there are plenty of republicans in good faith who see long term you need to fix that problem unfortunately you also have the idea that all the tax cuts are going to pay for themselves glomed on top of it. no one is particularly serious seriously, no one is acting like they care. you have to look at how people act, not the words well, i agree with that, but david stockman from the reagan administration says we didn t care about it then deficits were just an excuse to cut social programs which ends up with smaller government
state. on tv republicans link espy to national democrats. mike espy. his liberal agenda is his agenda, not ours. reporter: but the real key to victory for either candidate may not hinge on controversy but on the ability of both campaigns to get voters to the polls again after a fatiguing midterm election and during a distracting holiday season. so martin, when you do this, we re talking about a really short period of time before the election. right? so you don t have a lot of time. spending on both sides, when you look at the numbers has been really aggressive. reporter: incredible spending. if you just look at what the parties have spent on buying television ad times alone combined, $3.8 million. we re talking from the beginning of november, well, the election is next tuesday. by the way the one and only debate is getting underway in a matter of minutes. and how cindy hyde-smith handles
there s a sense of paralysis. grant is stuck in v. republicans come to him no way you ll win in the fall unless you re willing to compromise on emancipation. if you start peace talks forget emancipation otherwise you ll lose. i wanted to win so much, it would be an affirmation of my leadership. but i will be damned in time and eternity if i turn the black soldiers into slavery. then chance comes into play which often happens. atlanta is taken. whole mood of the north changes. he wins the election. but he won it with emancipation and union intact his twin goals. when they put the ambition of the country above the ambition of the self. ambition is to be there. sometimes it gets transferred to a bigger fulfillment and it did
be my girlfriend and the boys will be boys attitude. and if that s the back drop of this, if that s reflective of where the president s base is on this and where republicans will be pitching their arguments to, then no, the chances of a reasonable debate on this is almost minimum. look at this. look at this. this is dismissing her out of hand about a joke. this is making a joke out of an accusation that is potentially incredibly serious that this woman has lived with for 36 years if she s telling the truth. there are strong political reasons on both sides for republicans and democrats to fight for this one as hard as they can. i understand that. but the chances this means that we are all going to be worse off. brett kavanaugh is going to be worse off, miss ford is going to be worse off because we cannot have a reasonable debate about this. so i am not judging any republican s ability to cross-examine witnesses in court. i m not judging their ability to
very ideological by conservatives by republicans. didn t she get over 90 votes? what happened between that point and now? well, she did. but, you know, ruth baden ginsburg is only ideological in the current sphere we live in. at the time she was appointed there were actually a lot of liberals who thought she was too centrist. so on this court which is a very conservative court, she s on the left side of the court. but i don t think that actually she was viewed that way. one of the people who was her defender was orrin hatch. it was also a very different time. we didn t have the kind of cultural fights as much then as we do today. you could lay the blame on the court. you can lay the blame on the parties. you can lay the blame on the people. whatever you want to do, this is