do you think it s past its sell by date, now that all of our planet is surveyed, satellite tracked, we map it, we know it? is exploration a thing of the past? absolutely not. the word is grossly overused by all sorts of people. i mean, windows explorer, for a start. it s all over the media all of the time, all sorts of people are calling themselves explorers. but for me, explorers, partly in the old victorian tradition that you were talking about, but also today, are people who change the world, who actually examine this extraordinary planet that we live on, and reveal it to the outside world, to everybody, the way it actually ticks and hangs together. and if that involves some hacking and hewing through trackless wastes, so much the better. well. that s part of it. at heart, it s about going into the unknown, isn t it? so do we need to change what we think of as the unknown? because in the past, it was about geographical territory. maybe we should think differently. yes, absolutely.
and hangs together. and if that involves some hacking and hewing through trackless wastes, so much the better. well. that s part of it. at heart, it s about going into the unknown, isn t it? so do we need to change what we think of as the unknown? because in the past, it was about geographical territory. maybe we should think differently. yes, absolutely. now we are beginning to realise, just as telescopes are getting more and more powerful and people are looking into outer space and getting interested in that, which i regard as a complete waste of time, so microscopes are getting more powerful and we re beginning to realise just how incredibly diverse and infinite the life on this planet is and how little we understand it. that s where the future of exploration lies. let s talk about your personal exploration journey, because it always intrigues me what motivates people
to everybody, the way it actually ticks and hangs together. and if that involves some hacking and hewing through trackless wastes, so much the better. well. that s part of it. at heart, it s about going into the unknown, isn t it? so do we need to change what we think of as the unknown? because in the past, it was about geographical territory. maybe we should think differently. yes, absolutely. now we are beginning to realise, just as telescopes are getting more and more powerful and people are looking into outer space and getting interested in that, which i regard as a complete waste of time, so microscopes are getting more powerful and we re beginning to realise just how incredibly diverse and infinite the life on this planet is and how little we understand it. that s where the future of exploration lies. let s talk about your personal exploration journey, because it always intrigues me what motivates people to undertake missions which do involve a great deal of hardship and deprivat
the word is grossly overused by all sorts of people. i mean, windows explorer, for a start. it s all over the media all of the time, all sorts of people are calling themselves explorers. but for me, explorers, partly in the old victorian tradition that you were talking about, but also today, are people who change the world, who actually examine this extraordinary planet that we live on, and reveal it to the outside world, to everybody, the way it actually ticks and hangs together. and if that involves some hacking and hewing through trackless wastes, so much the better. well. that s part of it. at heart, it s about going into the unknown, isn t it? so do we need to change what we think of as the unknown? because in the past, it was about geographical territory. maybe we should think differently. yes, absolutely. now we are beginning to realise, just as telescopes are getting more and more powerful and people are looking into outer space and getting interested in that, which i regard as
through trackless wastes, so much the better. well. that s part of it. at heart, it s about going into the unknown, isn t it? so do we need to change what we think of as the unknown? because in the past, it was about geographical territory. maybe we should think differently. yes, absolutely. now we are beginning to realise, just as telescopes are getting more and more powerful and people are looking into outer space and getting interested in that, which i regard as a complete waste of time, so microscopes are getting more powerful and we re beginning to realise just how incredibly diverse and infinite the life on this planet is and how little we understand it. that s where the future of exploration lies. let s talk about your personal exploration journey, because it always intrigues me what motivates people to undertake missions which do involve a great deal of hardship and deprivation. you didn t come from a family that was poor.