Of modes of transport, including a very long train ride. so i think that s a big question that the white house has to deal with is how long this person would be out of commission going into ukraine. this is something that would have to be done with a lot of secrecy around that visit but it s something they re talking about internally as they are sending this $800 million age package into ukraine. katitlan collins, appreciate the update. with me in studio, torini, julie hirschfield davis of the new york times. i want to spend more time on the substance of the package. symbolically, it would be important and we can show it would most likely be, if the president decided to do something like this, but it would most likely be lloyd austin or tony blinken. you essentially ly lose two or three days of this person s time. they fly to poland, take a train across. why take that person out of other critical meetings for two or three days, yet popping up in
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