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veterans group there at pennsylvania avenue being briefed on what could happen to their ranks if the debt ceiling is not raised. also cnn is learning some states making contingency plans. california specifically taking out a temporary $5 billion loan just to help pay its bills in case congress fails to act and turmoil in the credit market makes it difficult to borrow money after august 2nd. take a walk with me. i want to look at what exactly is proposed here. we have two different plans, two different bills on the table. one from democratic leader, senate majority leader harry reid, speaker of the house boehner there. here we go. first up, as we mentioned before, look, they definitely have similarities. first of all, both of them would cut spending. also neither plan would raise taxes. but there is one really huge difference we need to highlight. the reid plan would raise the debt ceiling beyond next year s presidential election, but the boehner plan here would raise th ....