dangerous these times are. i m glad you mentioned some, quote-unquote, progressive voices who jumped on this band wagon. you often hear from more conservative centris times square and also some republicans who say the left has become too damn woke and they are losing elections because of it. i spoke to tom nicoles the never trumper from the atlantic about that last week. the objection i keep raising is that if you re trying to build a coalition of ordinary voters who are not no matter whether you think they should or not are not going to sit through a graduate seminar in race and gender, who are not as plugged in every day to the political discourse the way people like you and i might be, you are going to lose elections. what i find so amazing about that argument is that if that were in fact the fear you
we can go back to 1933 about not interfering in political affairs. it s classic russian bureaucratic ninjaness to kind of muddy the waters and not admit to the obvious. tom, today lavrov also offered to release correspondence between washington and moscow. pompeo pushed back on that. is lavrov making that comment just to cause political chaos. lavrov seems to be having the time of his life. right? he s having fun, right? of course. the russians are in the driver s seat here. they know president trump is deathly afraid of them. he s not going to cross them. he s not going to contradict them. lavrov can say anything he wants and the white house is just going to take it. pompeo, julia s right, pompeo say this is kind of gamely because he has to. but without much conviction. and
thing. also here s some super classified israeli intelligence that you just might want to see. and, you know, we still don t know what happened in that hour that he was in the white house, and i have a feeling in the coming days and weeks, we re going to be finding out that trump said some pretty again, i m speculating. but if last time was anything to go by, given that trump hasn t changed, i m guessing we re going to learn that trump said some pretty eyebrow-raising things. before the break, tom, we saw the story that athena jones put together for us. when you look at how much the republicans these talking points, they re in line with russia s message, it is striking, right? and i don t think there s with the exception of, you know, a jim jordan or maybe rudy giuliani, i don t think there s really a republican in washington who believes any of this stuff. the problem is that they are all having to get in line with this
cult of personality and reverse engineer all of their comments to match whatever trump is saying at any given moment. and what trump is saying is basically, as his own russia expert keeps telling him, his now former russia expert kept telling him, this is a russian narrative. this is something pumped by the former kgb, by the russian intelligence services, and it doesn t matter. trump repeats it. the gop repeats it. and, again, what really makes it appalling is this is being parroted by people who know better. they know. so, tom, why does he say it? i think he believes it, and i think putin said it to him. i think the president really believes that whatever the whatever large group of people around him, experts, intelligence officials, whatever they tell him must be wrong because he s the smartest guy in the room. and if his pal, vladimir putin, who also is his friend and
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