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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 08:10:00

So at some point she s going have to give a very solemn assessment of this, and it ll probably come sooner. as you said and suggested this is working against his interest and in fact he wants to delay this as long as possible. just another sort of legal note, barb, i mean to your point this evidence will be sort of digested in a way that is not like reading war and peace. there s also the man power concern, right? it s not just one lawyer going to be tasked with doing that, presumably. but we talked about this last night, trump does have a weirdly skeletal legal crew assisting him in all this. i think tom blanche has a law firm with two lawyers. the question is when will trump spend money to hire more lawyers? that seems like a necessity at

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:06:00

What has happened. they don t necessarily want to have this complicated by having revisiting the conditions of donald trump being released from custody. it s such an interesting conundrum for a normal person. we know he s totally he s not nothing gives him pause. i mean what we call witness tampering he calls just doing business. i mean how do his lawyers bake in sort of how he rolls with the defense they re going to try to mount, glenn? well, i think there s sort of a threshold question here. who are those lawyers going to be? again, one of the most consequential moments of that arraignment was when christopher kise and tom blanche, the two people representing him in court, said they intended to be permanent counsel. that kind of came as news to all of us because in the prior 48 hours we ve been hearing all these rumors about trump appealing to other florida based

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:09:00

Political animals in the room, people like tom finton and boris epstein. tom who s head of judicial watch and not a lawyer, and epstein who is a lawyer but has never actually tried a case, if you ask the other lawyers on trump s legal team and whom they all have vehemently disagreed with when it comes to boris legal strategy. he has ended up in these predicaments, and now he s facing indictments on two different cases and these most recent federal charges. but in our story christopher kise who was brought in to become this to professionalize the operation, he was quickly side lined after this approach that he presented of trying to go to the doj with a more cooperative stance and resolving the situation was rejected by trump. and that shouldn t really come as a surprise to those who have

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Transcripts for MSNBC Yasmin Vossoughian Reports 20240604 18:08:00

And what do you make of this? it doesn t make sense, yasmin. you ve got riley, and you ve got jim trusty. who have been leading the charge in the defense, they basically they ve been interacting with the federal government and investigators. literally, within 24, hours when the announcement of an indictment is imminent, they resign. now, you and i both know there could be things going on behind the scenes. we know tim, just a few weeks ago, it resigned because he was not getting along with epstein who was the, quote in-house counsel for donald. trump let s see what tom blanched can. do the problem with tom blanche, number, one he has a deal with donald trump. number two, he s not a national security attorney. there s big challenges for top blanche, among the two i just listed, yasmin, the worst thing for todd blanche is dealing with donald trump. katie phang, thank, you good to talk to you. the former president is set to deliver his public remarks, his first public remarks since

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Transcripts for MSNBC Yasmin Vossoughian Reports 20240604 18:07:00

Starting to evolve in this criminal case, how is it possible that she would get this case? but listen, just being a trump appointee alone is not grounds for a recusal, will jack smith roll the dice and wait for her to actually do something to indicate that she is having some type of preference to favor donald trump? that is left to be seen. is there a case that exists in particular industries to actions that will allow the department of justice to seek a recusal? absolutely. aileen cannon has had a particularly bad run with the 11th circuit court of appeal so far. she s been reverse, she s been told, you ve made some very clear moves on your part that look like they favor the defendant, donald trump. that in and of itself could be grounds for the department of justice to move for recusal. the fact that she is a trump appointee alone is not. the fact that she has been involved in this case, is not as well. let s talk about the trump legal. team trump announcing a new legal team for th

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