are tense again. thank you so much for joining us this morning. thanks to all of you for getting up way too early on this thursday morning. morning joe starts right now. a self-loathing has swept our country. joe and kamala even say america is racist. this is not about identity politics. i don t believe in that, and i don t believe in glass ceilings either. strong and proud, not weak and woke. that s the america i see. [ applause ] the only challenger so far to donald trump in the 2024 presidential race kicks off her campaign. during that speech, nikki haley took a dig at her former boss and president joe biden. we ll play for you those comments. also today, we ll get our first look at the pieces of the grand jury investigating the president s attempts to overturn the 2020 election results in georgia. plus, mike pence wants all the credit for doing the right thing on january 6th but doesn t want to talk about it under oath. we ll show you what he had to say abou
To january 6th, whether it was, you know, objecting to the certification on january 6th or whether it was, you know, trump trying to overturn the election through fake electors or other way, with john eastman. you know, pence was the only guy on a lot of on the other end of a lot of these conversations. he is really the only person who can speak to those conversations. if he is doing so under oath, you know, the justice department and the special counsel s office would get the clearest account of what went down. crucially, to what trump s intent was and what trump really wanted pence to do, throw out the election. send it back to the house or the states. i think that is really crucial. in many respects, play the judge maybe the judge does want to know what pence was thinking. for anyone who cares about what happened on january 6th, there are people who are serving time, who are in jail right now because of what they did at the
That the vast majority of the people in the prison never were. the fact in administration would intervene and prevent him from the crimes he s committed indicates they see themselves and everyone associated with them as above the law. take a listen, matt, to what trump was saying when he got the news about manafort s prosecution. can we. i feel badly for him. i think it s a very sad situation. and i saw that just a little while ago. and certainly on a human basis, it s very sad thing. i feel badly for him. matt, what do you think having worked around these issues? with respect to the president s comments, when he talks about law and order, he s always meant law and order that don t look like him or his friends. with respect to what the department did here, it s unusual for the deputy attorney general to do this. i don t remember a deputy