That was challenged? it was more than ten years ago. do that was challenged? it was more than ten years ago. do you i that was challenged? it was more than ten years ago. do you thinkl than ten years ago. do you think you did have a conversation than ten years ago. do you think you did have a conversation with - did have a conversation with cartwright king? i did have a conversation with cartwright king? did have a conversation with cartwright king? i had numerous conversations cartwright king? i had numerous conversations over cartwright king? i had numerous conversations over the cartwright king? i had numerous conversations over the years, i conversations over the years, whether that was part of one of them. it is ten years, i can t say yes i spoke to them about mr ishaq or i spoke to them about this. unfortunately that s just the passing of time without one. so your evidence is you passing of time without one. so your evidence is you can t passing of time without one