i you certainly can t discount that because at the same time the whole world has been focused on the russia-ukraine situation, china has continued to make military provocations like they did year with lots of overflights not overflights, but flights very near the air space of tien wan, direct warnings from high ranking government officials that the u.s. risks war with china over the taiwan issue. and, look, it s just, from a military perspective, if one side or the other goes, it makes a lot of sense for the other side to say, hey, this is our motion. so it is definitely a legitimate possibility. david: well, we re hearing some estimates about the cost to putin and the cost to the world in terms of casualty figures now from some of our russia watchers if they have a full invasion of ukraine, and now they re thinking, you know, he may feel free to go all the way to kiev, to the capital, and just take over the whole thing, 5-25,000 ukrainian troops killed or wounded, 4,000 russian