jumping turnstiles. if you have catch the culprits behind small crimes you often catch the same culprits behind much larger crimes. do i have that correct? absolutely. we found by going after turnstile jumpers, aggressive beggars, people annoying people of on the street, that very often they were involved in major crimes or had information about major crimes. the most important thing is we have to send a message to criminals that there will and certainty of punishment if they commit crimes. what s happening now is the message being send the to criminals, you can do what you want, you will be out on the street the same day. jon: the number of shootings has essentially doubled during pandemic. throrpter sobering statistics. murderr murder is up 27%.